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Forum: Just Diagnosed with a Recurrence or Metastasis — Meet others who are just facing the diagnosis of a recurrence of breast cancer or metastatic (advanced) disease. You are NOT alone.

Posted on: Oct 12, 2010 11:52AM

lea321 wrote:

3 years before I had my bc, I was told I had thyroid nodules.  after it was biopsied, it showed to be benign and not to worry, just to monitor.  Over the years, ultrasounds showed it was growing slowly, had a second biopsy right after I finished by bc treatment, still nothing to worry about.  The past 6 months, I began to have problems swallowing and decided to have it removed.  Even with the decision to have surgery (my 5th in 2 years) I put it off until the end of the summer so I could enjoy vacations and time with my kids.  Well, it turns out they found a 5 mm cancerous tumor.  (surprise) docs were shocked, as was I.  why didn't they find it sooner???  How long has this been living in my body??  I have heard there is no link to bc and thyroid cancer, but I wondered if anybody has heard different.  I am getting my thyrogen shots tomorrow and Thursday and will go thru radioactive iodine treatment on Friday.   Then will have a whole body scan on the 25th to see if there is any other need for concern.  I am only 40 and have had cancer twice (plus a hysterectomy) I am DONE with having health issues!  Trying to stay positive, and I am most of the time.  but in each case, I was told it was nothing to worry about and turned out to be something to worry about.  But I also realize, it could be worse, both were caught early and very treatable. I also appreciate these boards!  It is a wonderful way to read about others experiences and express my thoughts.  blessings to all!

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Oct 13, 2010 01:05PM JanetinVirginia wrote:

Hi Lea.  Yes, there is a link between thyroid cancer & breast cancer.  I had thyroid cancer more than 30 years ago.  I only had surgery and replacement thyroid hormone rest of my life (not sure the radioactive iodine was used that long ago.)  Was just diagnosed w/BC in September.  My mother also had thyroid cancer - no breast cancer.   

Anyway, while I was giving family history & making appointment for myself and my daughter for the breast cancer mutation gene, they told me there was also a link between thyroid & BC.  Due to that history, they also suggested I get the genetic P10 test for that - and would have implications for my kids in terms of  monitoring thyroid and breast.  I'll learn more Thursday because that's the genetic counseling session that goes into more depth.  I believe they are only beginning to scratch the surface in terms of how cancers are linked genetically.   The sooner they get to a cause & cure the better.

Dx 9/1/2010, IDC, 1cm, Stage I, Grade 2, 0/2 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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Oct 14, 2010 11:52AM 3monstmama wrote:

Curious.  I have the same sort of thyroid nodules--first found when I was about 21-- and was told that there isn't a link.  It came up most recently because when I did my MRI for the breast cancer, they could see the thyroid stuff and I ended up with 2 more biopsies on the thyroid.

To the best of my knowledge--as most recently updated in January when I had last biopsies-- thyroid cancer is VERY slow growing and only one type---which is very rare--spreads.  So odds are in your favor that they will yank your thyroid and you will be done except for hormones.  I have a very dear friend who had thyroid cancer maybe 15 years ago.  She is fine and has had no complications.

hang in there and keep us posted.

Pain is inevitable. Suffering is optional.

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Oct 14, 2010 03:25PM JanetinVirginia wrote:

Just got back from my genetic counseling appointment.  They took saliva sample for the BRCA1 and 2 test.  They also recommended the P10 test (as I posted earlier).  She said the Cleveland Clinic is doing a free study - you can get the test for free.  If you contact the closest cancer center, they can link you to that.  She said Baylor also does commercial P10 testing (about $1500 and most covered by insurance) and can get the results quicker.  For CC, by the time all the paperwork is done, sample submitted and results - that can take about six months.  I'm not in a particular hurry, so I will use the CC process.  It will show if it is genetic.  There's not much you can do about it except be monitored more closely in terms of thyroid & breast for yourself and other family members.  If you have the gene, 50% chance each child will also.

Dx 9/1/2010, IDC, 1cm, Stage I, Grade 2, 0/2 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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Oct 14, 2010 03:30PM 3monstmama wrote:

Thanks for the tip on the Cleveland Clinic.  I will look into it.

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Oct 14, 2010 03:38PM squidwitch42 wrote:

Lea,

It is just too much, isn't it? Janet, thank you so much for your information, and as you know I have my ultrasound on the 20th. Lea, I too am having issues with swallowing and a feeling of fullness, and the occasion weird gurgle back there.

 I know this is another hurdle to go through, and I have also read that thyroid cancer is slow growing. Will you please keep us updated on your progess?

Janet,

Thanks for the info on the genetic testing, like I said someplace else....I am not sure why my Onc was not interested in the BRCA 1 and 2 testing for me. My mom had DCIS and died of pancreatic Cancer. There are many Cancers on her side of the family. I do not have children, but do have a Sister. Wouldn't the test be of importance to her, or other cancers for me? The P10  is very interesting as well. I'll check out the Cleveland Clinic study, thank you. Always a wealth of info to find here and in the big brains of my Sisters :)

Dx 10/2/2009, IDC, 4cm, Stage IIa, Grade 3, 0/7 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2-
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Oct 14, 2010 03:39PM squidwitch42 wrote:

And if I didn't say this loudly enough Lea, I am sorry for you having to face more health trials. Please let us know what you need, k?

Traci

Dx 10/2/2009, IDC, 4cm, Stage IIa, Grade 3, 0/7 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2-
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Oct 14, 2010 04:12PM JanetinVirginia wrote:

Hi Traci!   In my opinion genetic testing is one of the very few proactive ways to deal with cancer.  One day I'm sure they will find links to many different kinds of cancers.  The research just isn't there yet.  For BRACA1 and 2 test, it's especially important if family members had early onset breast cancers (young women pre-menopausal.).  They don't consider a strong link if family members had breast cancer late in life - but you can't tell without the test.  It can skip individuals or generations.  The other problem is only 2 generations back, if someone died from cancer they did not have sophisticated tests to tell exactly where the cancer may have started.  They told me if I come back positive, they would recommend prophy mastectomy on right side (just had left mastecomy 2 weeks ago) and ovaries/tubes because 50% chance of cancer. Yikes!  For children, grandchildren on down the line, it means much earlier screenings and for them to be tested too.

In my case thyroid was papillary cancer - the very slow growing kind & surgery all that was needed.   (Although it had some rare mitotic feature).  Follicular (sp?) is more aggressive.  She said another study is starting soon - for the life of me I can't remember who she said, except it was also in Ohio.  I told her I'd be happy to send blood samples, saliva samples anywhere to support research.

Dx 9/1/2010, IDC, 1cm, Stage I, Grade 2, 0/2 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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Oct 14, 2010 07:56PM lea321 wrote:

Ladies, thank you so much for the info and reaching out.  Janet, I will definately check into the Cleveland Clinic.   Luckily I tested neg for BRCA 1 & 2.  Unfortunately, mine is follicular, which is more aggressive.  Even though thyroid cancer is slow growing, I have known about these nodules for 7 years, and who knows how long they were there before that.  So maybe this spread to the breast?  don't know, anxious for the scan on the 25th.  tomorow is my radioactive pill, so ready to get this over with, and be done with this low iodine diet.  I want a chocolate!!! Tongue out

I appreciate your support and although I am sorry to hear you are dealing with this too, it is nice to know I am not alone.  I will update you on my progress and anything I may find in my research.  thanks sisters!!

Dx 7/1/2008, DCIS, 1cm, Stage 0, 0/2 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2+Dx 2/28/2012, DCIS, 2cm, Stage 0, Grade 1, 0/2 nodes, ER+/PR-Surgery 07/28/2008 Lumpectomy (Right); Lymph Node Removal: Sentinel Lymph Node Dissection (Right)Surgery 08/11/2008 Lumpectomy (Right)Radiation Therapy 09/24/2008 ExternalSurgery 03/29/2012 Mastectomy (Right); Prophylactic Mastectomy (Left)Surgery 08/23/2012 Reconstruction: Breast implants (permanent), Latissimus Dorsi flap (Right)Surgery 12/21/2012 Reconstruction (Both)Surgery 01/21/2014 Reconstruction: DIEP flap (Both)
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Oct 15, 2010 01:23AM squidwitch42 wrote:

Janet,

Thank you for your valuable info. I am not sure if my Onc skipped over testing as I do not have children, and had a hysterectomy? But I do have a sister...so do you know what are the recommendations?

Lea,

There is a thread about thyroid cancer and BC. There is also a thread under the autoimmune disorders and BC....you could probably search using those words. I know you and Janet are certainly not alone. I wish you the best, and saved this thread so I will be able to hear how things are going for you.

Best wishes!!

Dx 10/2/2009, IDC, 4cm, Stage IIa, Grade 3, 0/7 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2-
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Oct 15, 2010 08:18AM somanywomen wrote:

lea321...I wish our docs were as concerned about recurrence as we are, I think that too many of us are told not to worry about our concerns and until it is almost too late ..I had my one year mammo/us the other day..The tech made mention of a complex cyst and said the the radiologist would probably suggest I have it re-checked in 3 months...When she took my scans to him to read, she came back in and said "he said you're a-ok"....I said what about the complex cyst, she just looked at me and said you can ask your surgeon about it anyway...I asked her how competent she thought the radiologist was and she said "I will take the fifth" ....Today I am picking up my copies and will ask for a second opinion reading of my scans since she seemed to have so little confidence in this radiologist....Kinda scarry...

By the way, recently on Dr. Oz he mentioned that we all should ask for a thyroid protector when we get dental xrays and mammos etc, I asked and sure enough they had one that they wrapped it around my neck before the mammo....He had mentioned that the more dental work that we have seemed to increase our chance of getting thyroid cancer....What I want to know is why most of us have never heard of a thyroid protector until that show..With all of our many scans and with all the radiation we've had, it's just common sense that they should have at least covered our thyroid (I had 30 rad treatments)....Wishing you the very best......

“There must be some way out of here,” said the joker to the thief, “There’s too much confusion, I can’t get no relief."....All Along the Watchtower..Bob Dylan

Dx 9/28/2009, IDC, 1cm, Stage I, Grade 2, 0/2 nodes, ER+/PR+
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Oct 15, 2010 08:33AM JanetinVirginia wrote:

Lea - absolutely yes ask for a thyroid protector anytime you are getting Xrays.  I only let the dentist Xray me and my children about once every few years!  Otherwise she'd do it routinely.  My original thyroid surgeon told me that 30+ years ago.

Dx 9/1/2010, IDC, 1cm, Stage I, Grade 2, 0/2 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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Oct 15, 2010 09:40AM squidwitch42 wrote:

Now that it is too late, I am very curious if you all had a thyroid protector during your radiations treatments? I know for sure my TSH was normal before Rads, and 11.6 after. The swallowing stuff ramped up after rads too. Super.

Somanywomen,

I find I have to recap my appointments just to be sure we addressed the original issues. Yes, second opinion time. That's pretty scary that your tech pleaded the 5th. Best to you, let us know, K?

Dx 10/2/2009, IDC, 4cm, Stage IIa, Grade 3, 0/7 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2-
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Oct 15, 2010 10:50AM JanetinVirginia wrote:

I've never had a radiologist offer one - have found you have to ask.  However, as precise as radiation fields are programmed these days for cancer treatment, the thyroid may not have been in the "field."  It's just a good practice to get into asking for it in general - it's a simple preventive measure.  The same is true to ask for lead apron for parts of body not getting Xrayed (pelvis, whatever).  They may roll their eyes - but who cares.  They aren't the ones getting the Xray.

Dx 9/1/2010, IDC, 1cm, Stage I, Grade 2, 0/2 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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Oct 19, 2010 08:37AM somanywomen wrote:

squidwitch....I am not one to give up following my gut to get an answer, I had called the Center to speak with the Supervisor and left messages since last Friday when I picked up my results and not even a mention of a complex cyst on them!!!...Finally yesterday I went to the Center and was lucky enough to speak with the Supervisor (I waited an hour, but it was worth it!)...She wasn't too happy with the tech speaking about a complex cyst in front of me, but I made sure that she knew that I had drilled her on info, esp, since my last year's dx...At this Center, one of their young mammo techs has just been dx with bc so this woman was very understanding as to my concerns.....She even had another rad doc talk with me and explain to me in his rad room with all my scans there in front on me, he showed me that the complex cyst was really two cyst side by side, he said that to be considered a complex cyst that the cyst needed be part solid and that mine were not...I feel a lot better, but still will make sure that the area will be inspected and compared at my next year's follow-up, I would feel better if I could have it looked at sooner, but they only look at my left breast 2x a year...I say to anyone, don't give up if you don't understand something........

“There must be some way out of here,” said the joker to the thief, “There’s too much confusion, I can’t get no relief."....All Along the Watchtower..Bob Dylan

Dx 9/28/2009, IDC, 1cm, Stage I, Grade 2, 0/2 nodes, ER+/PR+
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Oct 19, 2010 08:50AM squidwitch42 wrote:

somanywomen,

I think that is wonderful advice. It's so important for "patients" (us) to be empowered. I'm glad you feel better having talked with the Rad Doc with your scans in front of you. I have my ultrasound tomorrow, I'll let you all know how it goes.

Lea,

How are you doing?

Dx 10/2/2009, IDC, 4cm, Stage IIa, Grade 3, 0/7 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2-
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Oct 19, 2010 08:55AM JanetinVirginia wrote:

Traci - prayers for a good scan tomorrow! 

Somany - good for you!  I'm finding proactive is the name of the game navigating healthcare!

Dx 9/1/2010, IDC, 1cm, Stage I, Grade 2, 0/2 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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Oct 19, 2010 09:03AM squidwitch42 wrote:

Thank you Janet! Much appreciated :)

Dx 10/2/2009, IDC, 4cm, Stage IIa, Grade 3, 0/7 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2-
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Oct 19, 2010 09:21AM Kelley41 wrote:

JanetinVirginia - What is the P10 test?  I ask because I was diagnosed with Triple Negative Breast Cancer at age 41 and had the genetic testing (BRCA1 & BRCA2) done; which came back negative.  My mother, my sister and a first cousin on my mothers side had thyroid cancer and had their thyroids removed.  I always worried about thyroid cancer; not breast cancer!

Dx 1/10/2010, IDC, <1cm, Stage I, Grade 2, 0/3 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2-
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Oct 19, 2010 09:35AM somanywomen wrote:

Lea, Good luck tomorrow, it's so hard to get some control back into our lives after this bc dx, but it is so important to be your own advocate, I will check back to see your good news.....Jewly

“There must be some way out of here,” said the joker to the thief, “There’s too much confusion, I can’t get no relief."....All Along the Watchtower..Bob Dylan

Dx 9/28/2009, IDC, 1cm, Stage I, Grade 2, 0/2 nodes, ER+/PR+
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Oct 19, 2010 09:44AM susan_CNY wrote:

just chiming in here about the protectors, always ask for them during x-rays! shame on the techs for not doing their jobs, they know better. Best of luck to you Lea, I am also a multiple primary cancer survivor, my bc was discovered on routine mammo a month after I finished chemo for colon cancer, I often wonder how long it was there, I was told my colon tumor had been growing at least 10 years until was so large caused a blockage, but no answers about the bc.

dx 4/1984 cervical /hyst 10/2002 stage 2 colon /hemi-colectomy/5FU and Leukovorin chemo 11/2003 stage 1 bc tumor 1.6 grade 3 no nodes, possible vascular invasion / lumpectomy and rads 7/2009 lumpectomy found to be benign

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Oct 19, 2010 09:47AM squidwitch42 wrote:

Hi Kelly.

I just wanted to say hi from a former Rochesterian :) I still don't get why my Onc didn't do any genetic testing for me....I am so going in there on the 14th with a pad and pencil. (he explained it in the past, and I just said...o.k.!) I have a sister, and I might benefit as well. I wonder again if it's because I had a hysterectomy in the past? Maybe my Sister needs to have genetic testing? My mom had DCIS and passed from pancreatic though...has anyone seen pancreatic cancer as an increased risk in BRCA 1 or 2?

I am glad yours came back negative Kelly! I am triple neg as well. Funny, I am starting to see more than a few Upstaters here, and one lady (kindone) from Buffalo mentioned the Roswell area as a hotbed for BC. I honestly don't know that area, but wondering if you had any thoughts? I have one thought of this horrible factory that used to spew this awful smell which I think was an animal waste plant. We would all have to pull our windows shut in the summertime. It wasn't every night...but I grew up in Penfield, on the border of Brighton. The name of the company was Steffenback (spelled phonetically only...not sure of correct spelling, and tried to look it up last year and could not find anything.) If you know anything about Rochester can you share? Several of our neighbors have had different forms of cancer...ovarian, pancreatic, breast, a "common" one and another one that is rare and the name escapes me. This was in four houses and we all were neighbors. Who knows about the rest of the block?

Dx 10/2/2009, IDC, 4cm, Stage IIa, Grade 3, 0/7 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2-
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Oct 19, 2010 11:17AM jsw19 wrote:

Lea, I too have had both thyroid and breast cancer but in my case the thyroid was first.  I was diagnosed with papillary thyroid cancer at age 26 and then my breast cancer was diagnosed earlier this year at age 32.  I also met with a genetic counselor after the BC diagnosis and was also referred to the Cleveland Clinic P10 study after testing negative for BRCA 1 & 2.  This thread actually reminds me that I need to find that paperwork and mail it in to them.  I am currently in the middle of my chemo so I've been a bit distracted.  Anyway, I want to reassure you that thyroid cancer is very treatable.  The low iodine diet is the worst part of it all and it sounds like you are finished with that now!  I hope you will get good news from your scan next week and you can get through this!
Dx 5/5/2010, IDC, 1cm, Grade 2, 8/19 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2+
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Oct 19, 2010 12:46PM JanetinVirginia wrote:

Kelley - if I tried to explain P10 test from memory I'd probably get it wrong because I got so much information that day it's all running together.  I THINK it gives you family/genetic thyroid link just like the BRCA test results for BC.  Whether it connects dots to BC, I can't remember.  Maybe that is what CC is studying in this research.  I don't have any brochures about P10 so  I just emailed the genetic counselor to see if she would point me to something that explains it in depth.  Will pass on what she says. 

Dx 9/1/2010, IDC, 1cm, Stage I, Grade 2, 0/2 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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Oct 20, 2010 08:13AM hopefor30 wrote:

Hi there,

I am also a breast and thyroid cancer survivor.   Thyroid diagnosed 2 years after breast.    My two cancers are not related.   I have had genetic testing, both BRCA and PTEN -- please note it is not P10, but PTEN and it does not look for links between thyroid and breast cancer.

PTEN is a chromosome and what they are testing for is a syndrome called Cowden's Syndrome.   If you have Cowden's, you are at increased risk for breast, thyroid and endometrial cancer.    I tested negative.   There are other symptoms of Cowden's besides cancer risk.   People with Cowden's often have growth that are like warts or something.  Google Cowden's for more info.

In my case, I found my own thyroid cancer.   I too was having a feeling of fullness in my neck and had trouble swallowing.   My primary care doctor was an endocrinologist as well because I had been hypothyroid for years.    I complained to her that my neck felt strange and asked her to do an ultrasound.   I was initially concerned that my breast cancer had spread to the lymph nodes in my neck.    Doctor refused and told me I as fine.

I knew that something wasn't right and went straight to my onc instead.   After an ultrasound found nodules, I had a biopsy of my thyroid and was diagnosed with papillary thyroid cancer.   In my case, partly due to my age, I was staged at stage 3 because there was some spread into the soft tissue in my neck.   I was pissed to say the least, since I had been hounding my primary care for 6 months before I was diagnosed.    Needless to say, I have a new primary care doctor.

I am now a little over a year out from thyroidectomy and RAI -- I had a high dose 150mci and had to to hypo prior to treatment.    For my one year followup I was allowed to use the thyrogen shots.   So far, I am doing well, but I can relate to two cancer diagnoses in 3 years.   It sucks.

Good luck!   You can send a PM if you have any questions.

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Oct 20, 2010 08:26AM mollyann wrote:

You need to check out the Yahoo Iodine Email group. There are are over 4,000 members. The owner had thyroid cancer when her baby was 5 months old. A lot of women have both thyroid and breast cancers due to iodine deficiency. http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/iodine/

There are others there who have reversed their precancerous conditions. Read Dr. David Brownstein's book on Iodine: Why You Need It.

Look it up. Ask questions. Question authority. Respect other's choices.

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Oct 20, 2010 08:37AM squidwitch42 wrote:

hope,

Thanks so much for your information, I am going in for my U/S today, and will touch back. I hate being in a hypothyroid state, but know that's a necessary part of treatment. How did you do with that, and how do you feel now (fullness and trouble swallowing?)

Dx 10/2/2009, IDC, 4cm, Stage IIa, Grade 3, 0/7 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2-
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Oct 20, 2010 08:53AM hopefor30 wrote:

I managed to get through my hypothyroid state, but it got tough near the end.  My TSH prior to RAI was 98!   I felt like my arms weighed 100 pounds and I got pretty achey, but somehow managed to continue my motherly duties -- cooking and doing laundry.

I feel pretty good now.   Once you start back on hormones, you will feel better.   Then they will keep your TSH suppressed so you are borderline hyper.   It took me a year to get my TSH levels suppressed.   My endo just kept increasing my meds gradually every 3 months.

The fullness and swalloing problems are gone and were gone after surgery.   Just lately, I have been having trouble with feeling like I have to clear my throat a lot, but there's nothing there, but I just had an ooph and wonder if some of that is related to low estrogen since it started after that.   I was clean on my 1st year followup for thyroid cancer.   Had thyrogen shots and tested thyroglobulin which was OK and neck ultrasound.   I am being checked again in February.

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Oct 20, 2010 09:29AM JanetinVirginia wrote:

Hope - no wonder I couldn't find info on P10 - was searching on wrong spelling!!!  

Here is the link that my genetic counselor emailed to me for background on the thyroid genetic test.  Note, she said you don't necessarily have to exhibit all the attributes of Cowdens to have the CS gene (or mutation I guess).  Read down through - the highest cancer risk w/CS gene is breast cancer (25-50%) - not thyroid cancer (10%) which really surprised me!!!  So there is definitely a link somewhere in the genes.

http://www.cancer.net/patient/Cancer+Types/Cowden+Syndrome

Dx 9/1/2010, IDC, 1cm, Stage I, Grade 2, 0/2 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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Oct 20, 2010 02:28PM lea321 wrote:

Thanks for all the info and sharing your stories!  I am doing good, having a delayed reaction to the hyperthyroidism.  I felt pretty good thru the radioactive treatment and was surprised since they prepared me to not feel so great.  WELL, now 5 days later, I feel it!!!  very achy, headache, hot flashes to freezing cold, couldn't fall asleep til 4:00am 2 nites ago, and my heart was racing.  freaked me out a little, but my nurse said sometimes the SE's don't kick in right away with some people.  little better today though.   very anxious (again, another SE) for the whole body scan on Monday.  geez, waiting is the hardest part!!!  I am kind of a split personality, sometimes a feel terrified they will find more cancer, and other times I wonder why worry about it now, until I know anything for sure.  will share results when I have them.

Dx 7/1/2008, DCIS, 1cm, Stage 0, 0/2 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2+Dx 2/28/2012, DCIS, 2cm, Stage 0, Grade 1, 0/2 nodes, ER+/PR-Surgery 07/28/2008 Lumpectomy (Right); Lymph Node Removal: Sentinel Lymph Node Dissection (Right)Surgery 08/11/2008 Lumpectomy (Right)Radiation Therapy 09/24/2008 ExternalSurgery 03/29/2012 Mastectomy (Right); Prophylactic Mastectomy (Left)Surgery 08/23/2012 Reconstruction: Breast implants (permanent), Latissimus Dorsi flap (Right)Surgery 12/21/2012 Reconstruction (Both)Surgery 01/21/2014 Reconstruction: DIEP flap (Both)
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Oct 20, 2010 03:28PM vivre wrote:

There is a direct link between thyroid and breast cancer. They are both linked to iodine deficiency. As Mollyann said, there is a group you can join with lots of info, and we have a long thread here.

You must all read Dr. Brownstein's book "Iodine, Why You Need It and Why You cannot Live Without it".

I have been following his iodine protocol for almost two years, and it has changed my life. It was the key to my disease, I am sure. Read his book and I think you will all see a lot of yourself in his case studies. I am not going to continue the iodine discussion here, since we have already done that on the long iodine thread already here, but pm me if you want more links to information.

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