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Forum: Alternative Medicine — This forum is a safe, judgement-free place for Alternative Therapy users and for those wishing to discuss about alternative therapy only. Alternative medicine refers to treatments that are used INSTEAD of standard, evidence-based treatment. Please refrain from providing individual medical advice.

Posted on: Aug 8, 2011 10:32 AM

dougbrimor wrote:

Has anyone used alternative treatments such as Lorriane Day, Chris Beat Cancer, The Hallelujah Diet and skipped the cookie cutter 6 weeks of radiation and five years of Tamoifen?  I am so confused , even the 2011 cancer book that the radaition department gave me in my red folder states that radiation can cause a second cancer, that they are working on improving these satatics.  I read the whole book cover to cover and was just blown away by what they are admitting of these chemicals.  Anyway, would like to know if anyone else is swinging on this bridge?  Thanks


Diagnosis: 7/18/2011, <1cm, Stage I, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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May 6, 2012 08:40 AM sweetbean wrote:

OK, but Poland Spring definitely uses BPA in their plastic, which is a bummer.  The stuff should be banned.


Diagnosis: 11/18/2010, ILC, 5cm, Stage IIIa, Grade 2, 2/15 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2+
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May 6, 2012 08:52 AM abigail48 wrote:

the bottom triangles say a "1" which is supposed to be okay.  & the filters would filter out the good minerals, gary takes supplememts for that but I don't do pills either, slippery slope, next oxycotin.  though whoes to say poland or evian doesn;t filter out the minerals..........

I;ve researched phytochemicals again but need to transcribe the notes before posting here.  meanwhile a flash- walk to the studio

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May 6, 2012 09:18 AM Kaara wrote:

dunesleeper:  For the little wine that we drink, we should be able to buy it in a glass bottle with a real cork!  The only problem is, once I open the bottle I can't drink all the wine in one sitting, so I have to wait until I have friends over or it ends up beng used for cooking.

 Funny story...my DIL likes a cheap sweet wine and she always brings it to family gatherings.   My DD only drinks expensive wine with corks, so she went to open the wine DIL brought with a wine opener, not realizing that it had a screw top!  What a reality check for her...lol.

Kaara
Diagnosis: 11/14/2011, IDC, <1cm, Stage I, Grade 1, 0/1 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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May 6, 2012 10:39 AM abigail48 wrote:

& what about the brassicas (sp?) supplements? do they heat the stuff to 140 degrees before putting it in capsules or making it into caps??

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May 6, 2012 12:31 PM, edited May 6, 2012 12:33 PM by kayfh

The wine that is bottled with screw caps is the wave of the future. The screw caps don' t get mouldy, don't fail and are replaceable so wine lasts longer after opening. This means that we can drink occasionally and not worry about waste if we don't have someone else willing/interested in consuming a small amount of wine. ;) I look for screw tops, it once was a screwtop signified a cheap, non potable alcoholic drink. Not so any more.

Kay
Diagnosis: 3/3/2009, IDC, 2cm, Stage IV, Grade 3, 8/8 nodes, mets, ER+/PR-, HER2+
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May 6, 2012 12:48 PM exbrnxgrl wrote:

My SIL buys wines for the bar/restaurant where he works and agrees that screw caps no longer signify a cheap wine. Alas, almost any amount of alcohol disagrees with me these days :( Caryn

Bilateral mx 9/7/11 with one step ns reconstruction. As of 11/21/11, 2cm met to left hip
Diagnosis: 7/8/2011, IDC, 4cm, Stage IV, Grade 1, 1/15 nodes, mets, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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May 6, 2012 12:56 PM abigail48 wrote:

I've had none for nearly 5 years, before that a glass or 2 of wine a year, but I wonder:  the screw caps are made of aluminum.  that can't be good

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May 6, 2012 12:57 PM Kaara wrote:

True...screw caps are being seen now on better wines, but I still prefer the corked variety.  A friend once bought us a case of wine.. Two Buck Chuck's I believe it was called.  It wasn't bad.

Kaara
Diagnosis: 11/14/2011, IDC, <1cm, Stage I, Grade 1, 0/1 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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May 6, 2012 01:05 PM exbrnxgrl wrote:

Two buck Chuck is the beloved slang name for the Charles Shaw wines from Trader Joes!
Caryn

Bilateral mx 9/7/11 with one step ns reconstruction. As of 11/21/11, 2cm met to left hip
Diagnosis: 7/8/2011, IDC, 4cm, Stage IV, Grade 1, 1/15 nodes, mets, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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May 6, 2012 01:08 PM Kaara wrote:

Caryn:  Right! Thanks for reminding me.  My BF's brother liked it so much he drank practically the entire case when he visited us.  We don't have a Trader Joe's in our area of Florida...don't know why..we have everything else!

Kaara
Diagnosis: 11/14/2011, IDC, <1cm, Stage I, Grade 1, 0/1 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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May 6, 2012 09:00 PM sweetbean wrote:

Abigail,

The type of plastic (1,2, etc) doesn't make a difference.  They all have that crappy BPA in them.  UGH.  I'm working on a BPA labeling bill in CT, but we have a short legislative session and the bill might get tabled.  We totally have a right to know! 


Diagnosis: 11/18/2010, ILC, 5cm, Stage IIIa, Grade 2, 2/15 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2+
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May 7, 2012 12:52 AM dunesleeper wrote:

Kaara, that is why I bought those little bottles. Each bottle is a glass of wine. They never used to be glass before, and I will write to them to complain and let them know I won't buy their wine again. I thought that little four pack would be perfect for me, since I plan to drink only very occasionally. Why would I want to open a large bottle of wine? I guess I will just have to wait until I have company who will help drink it.

sweetbean, thanks for working on the BPA labeling bill in CT. We certainly DO have a right to know. At this point, at least things can be labeled "no BPA." So, if I don't see that I will have to assume BPA.

I just got a Zuva water filter. It uses ozone and UV light to purify water. Now, if we could just get them to stop adding fluoride. Grrrr. For now, I have it sitting on my counter top, but it can be installed under the sink and then be hooked to its own faucet. I will need to have an electrical outlet installed under the sink. Then it is just a matter of drilling a one inch hole in the sink, up where the regular faucet is but off to the side. The hookup seems easy enough after that. The ozone adds a bit of extra oxygen to the water. And when the filter needs to be replaced, the unit will stop working.


Diagnosis: 2/7/2012, IDC, 4cm, Stage IIb, Grade 3, 1/31 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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May 7, 2012 08:09 AM sweetbean wrote:

Yes, dunesleeper, when it comes to plastic bottles or canned goods, if it doesn't say "BPA free," then they use BPA.  I contacted a few companies that were selling organic canned beans to find out if they use BPA and they did.  I told them I would no longer buy their products.  Now I buy Eden Organic, but mostly I try to use dried beans.  Takes a bit more preparation and planning, though.  I am going to grown tomatoes in my garden, so that I can freeze them myself for the winter.  :)


Diagnosis: 11/18/2010, ILC, 5cm, Stage IIIa, Grade 2, 2/15 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2+
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May 7, 2012 09:34 AM dunesleeper wrote:

That's the way to do it sweetbean. This is the first year I won't be planting vegetables. I'm going to do flowers instead, but it is only because our neighborhood has a serious rat problem. I'm not fond of the idea of eating food rats have crawled around. So, we are trying to fix that problem. In the meantime I hope to buy a lot from farmer's markets. I just have to get up early enough to do that. That's the challenge there. LOL


Diagnosis: 2/7/2012, IDC, 4cm, Stage IIb, Grade 3, 1/31 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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May 7, 2012 09:41 AM Kaara wrote:

I can't wait to get to our summer home in NC this year so I can plant my tomatoes and herbs.  I think I am going to try and grow some vegetables this year..maybe peppers since they are easy.  Are there any other easy veggies that one can grow?  We also have great farmers and curb markets up there so will have no trouble getting organic...all locally grown.

Kaara
Diagnosis: 11/14/2011, IDC, <1cm, Stage I, Grade 1, 0/1 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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May 7, 2012 10:08 AM, edited May 7, 2012 10:09 AM by SelenaWolf

In Ontario, ALL of the vintners are beginning to switch over to screw caps.  Even the pricier vintages have screw-caps.  I hate it.  There was something so ritualistically satisfying about de-corking a wine bottle with a flourish!  And I'll miss denting the kitchen ceiling with flying champagne corks at Christmas...

And Kaara, I already have my tomatoes-, lettuces-, and herbs planted!  I'm so excited!  I can't wait to start munching.

"... good girls never made history ..."
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May 7, 2012 10:15 AM exbrnxgrl wrote:

Zucchini or other squash are easy to grow. Some herbs are heat sensitive and go to seed quickly such as cilantro. Basil,does well and will even self sow for the following year. Try yellow pear tomatoes, delicious and very prolific. Caryn

Bilateral mx 9/7/11 with one step ns reconstruction. As of 11/21/11, 2cm met to left hip
Diagnosis: 7/8/2011, IDC, 4cm, Stage IV, Grade 1, 1/15 nodes, mets, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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May 7, 2012 10:17 AM gracie1 wrote:

Kaara, I find cucumbers and peas really easy to grow if you have a fence for them to crawl on. What I would love to know is what dandelion greens are safe to eat. Anybody know? I'm always so impressed when Jamie Oliver just runs out to his driveway to grab some weeds to make a salad.

Vegetables just taste better when you grow them yourself, don't they?


Diagnosis: IDC, 3cm, Stage IV, Grade 3, 26/35 nodes, mets, ER+/PR+, HER2+
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May 7, 2012 11:12 AM SelenaWolf wrote:

When I'm bumbling about the garden with my cat in the summer, I like to munch right off the vine...

"... good girls never made history ..."
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May 7, 2012 08:10 PM dunesleeper wrote:

Eggplant, peppers, spring onions, bush cucumbers, and habaneros are all extremely easy to grow. In many locales, rosemary grows year round. Sweet basil is easy to grow and you will get a lot from one plant in a season.

Dandelions that have not been sprayed with week killers are safe to eat in their entirety. I sprayed in the Fall, so I would not feel comfortable eating any of mine this year. But I might next year.Dandelion leaves act as a diuretic, increasing the amount of urine the body produces. The leaves are used to stimulate the appetite and help digestion. Dandelion flower has antioxidant properties. Dandelion may also help improve the immune system. Herbalists use dandelion root to detoxify the liver and gallbladder, and dandelion leaves to support kidney function.All parts of the dandelion are edible and have medicinal and culinary uses. It has long been used as a liver tonic and diuretic. In addition, the roots contain inulin and levulin, starchlike substances that may help balance blood sugar, as well as bitter taraxacin, which stimulates digestion. Dandelion roots can be harvested during any frost-free period of the year and eaten raw, steamed, or even dried, roasted and ground into a coffee substitute. The flowers are best known for their use in dandelion wine, but they also can be added to a salad, made into jellies or dipped in batter to make dandelion fritters. The leaves are rich in potassium, antioxidants, and vitamins A and C. Dandelion greens can be eaten raw, steamed, boiled, sautéed or braised. For use in salads, greens should be harvested from new plants while still small and tender, before the first flower emerges. Larger greens tend to be tougher and more bitter, and better suited for cooking.

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Diagnosis: 2/7/2012, IDC, 4cm, Stage IIb, Grade 3, 1/31 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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May 7, 2012 10:10 PM abigail48 wrote:

I like the water filter info

my friend bill was cured by a preparation of dandilion root, when he was in effect dying.  given that, stewed as I recall, or perhaps a strong broth of it, his friend anne dug them up & cooked them, just then, fresh, his fever broke & he was soon okay.

but peas, I'm afraid to eat them as they're legumes & therefore must be estrogenic.

but speaking of sulfur:  matches, I've been saying the 49 days of prayers for a musician recently died & I light a stick of sandal before I read the prayers, & I smell the match & thought...........

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May 8, 2012 10:02 AM, edited May 8, 2012 10:03 AM by Ruby-

Abigail, what do you think of lentils ? they come in all pretty colours Wink  I've been adding barley and lentils instead of beans to my homemade soup.
Different strokes for different folks / The power that made the body heals the body. It happens no other way.
Diagnosis: 2010, IDC, 2cm, Stage IIb, Grade 1, 3/5 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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May 8, 2012 03:02 PM abigail48 wrote:

I won't touch any legumes since that experience of pain about a year ago with rawish red beans        miss quite a lot, one of my favorite foods, makes such a nice souse for vegetables, but there are many alternatives for that

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May 9, 2012 08:50 AM abigail48 wrote:

except the once a wwk homeopathy castor oil pack, 45 minutes.  not easy

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May 10, 2012 11:26 AM plumblossom wrote:

Dunesleeper, you feel free to eat dandelion. In chinese traditional medicine, the dandelion is a drug to treat cancer, and it is a very popular dish in Chinese menu.

Pbsom
Dx 9/14/2010, DCIS, 3cm, Stage IV, Grade 3, 9/25 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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May 10, 2012 12:00 PM gracie1 wrote:

I was hoping someone would respond to my previous post, but I'll try again. Where I live, every weed is called a "dandelion" so I have no idea which ones are poisonous and which ones aren't. In my mind though dandelion means the ones with the yellow poofy blooms. These are the ones that are good for you, right?

Dx IDC, 3cm, Stage IV, Grade 3, 26/35 nodes, mets, ER+/PR+, HER2+
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May 10, 2012 12:36 PM Ruby- wrote:

Gracie, the dandelion leaves and roots are edible

 

and yes they go fluffy like this

 

 

Different strokes for different folks / The power that made the body heals the body. It happens no other way.
Dx 2010, IDC, 2cm, Stage IIb, Grade 1, 3/5 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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May 10, 2012 12:41 PM gracie1 wrote:

Thanks Maud!

Dx IDC, 3cm, Stage IV, Grade 3, 26/35 nodes, mets, ER+/PR+, HER2+
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May 10, 2012 07:57 PM abigail48 wrote:

was in remission from discomfort/pain for many days recently, only change I could figure was fresh blackberries in my oatmeal

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May 10, 2012 08:22 PM Ruby- wrote:

hum hum good Abi

Different strokes for different folks / The power that made the body heals the body. It happens no other way.
Dx 2010, IDC, 2cm, Stage IIb, Grade 1, 3/5 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-

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