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May 26, 2012 02:12 PM himalaya wrote:
Thank you.
Yes i will ask my nurse and let you know.
Dx 3/1/2012, IDC, 3cm
All Topics → Forum: Alternative Medicine → Topic: Alternative Treatment
Posted on: Aug 8, 2011 09:32 AM
dougbrimor wrote:
Has anyone used alternative treatments such as Lorriane Day, Chris Beat Cancer, The Hallelujah Diet and skipped the cookie cutter 6 weeks of radiation and five years of Tamoifen? I am so confused , even the 2011 cancer book that the radaition department gave me in my red folder states that radiation can cause a second cancer, that they are working on improving these satatics. I read the whole book cover to cover and was just blown away by what they are admitting of these chemicals. Anyway, would like to know if anyone else is swinging on this bridge? Thanks
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May 26, 2012 02:12 PM himalaya wrote:
Thank you.
Yes i will ask my nurse and let you know.
May 26, 2012 07:58 PM abigail48 wrote:
I'm quite sure phytoestrogenic foods are harmful. I think the rt cyst began getting hard about 7 years ago. in '08 as I recall, I began juicing fennel, dis that for a year, my breasts became very uncomfortable, then I got a laptom, finally, & first thing tried to find some information that would help. Immediately discovered that fennel was estrogenic, & as the cysts appeared in 1964 right after I began using the first generation of "bieth controll" pills it for sure is estrogen which caused the cysts. I continued using the pills, but american ones, for the next ten years. cysts were mentioned as a "side effect", but not cancer. ( but perhaps I have a type that doesn't mestastisize which would mean they weren't exactly lying when cancer wasnt mentioned as an effect. side effects are affects. I stopped juicing fennel immediately & the discomfort immediately lessened, but in about march of '11, parts of that cyst became inflamed, & in august, just after I began homeopathy castor oil packs anothe inflamed place developed before my eyes. I still use the packs in liew of much else to do
I googled lymph massage today, I think I was wrong in the direction I mentioned: should go toward the torso. the information there as well is confusing.
but did I say? our supermarket opened after so many long months with none, last wednesday, I'll check it out tuesday.........good thing!!
May 27, 2012 03:13 AM Momine wrote:
Himalaya, it should be somewhere on there. Otherwise call your doc's office and ask. It will be in shorthand, with 'ER' meaning estrogen receptors and so on.
Abigail, do you have cysts AND cancer, or do you have cysts that you believe to be cancerous?
May 27, 2012 03:33 AM himalaya wrote:
I was checking but nothing was with ER or other short termins.
I will get to know on tuesday , because monday is holiday.
May 27, 2012 05:46 AM abigail48 wrote:
the right cyst is hard & with enflamede places, looks like it to me but I have really no idea, before this forum anyway
off to the studio to work for a few days after juicing, grapes, ginger tan pear apple cuke, celry)?
May 28, 2012 05:47 PM dixiebell wrote:
I have heard the stem of the broccoli (juicing) is best even better than the flower part. Anyone know if this is true?
May 28, 2012 05:50 PM Kaara wrote:
dixiebell: I don't know for sure, but I buy a packaged broccoli slaw salad at the grocery store that has the stems cut like slaw and you mix it with a slaw dressing with cranberries and nuts. It's delicious and we eat it quite a bit. I like it better than cole slaw.
May 29, 2012 03:09 AM Momine wrote:
Kara, I make a salad like that from cauliflower, which is also good. You can slice it in a food processor with a slicing blade if your market doesn't sell it pre-sliced. I slice cabbage that way too, when I want cabbage salad. It is very easy.
May 29, 2012 05:56 AM himalaya wrote:
hey you read my mind, i was thinking yesterday about stem of brocoli--use it or not in juicing--today i couldnt find anything in internet, and her you are!
What is the source?
May 29, 2012 06:00 AM himalaya wrote:
Caryn, Kaara...i got answer from my nurse about my ER, PR etc
She said---the pathotlogist will give those results after surgery total report.
May 29, 2012 06:01 AM, edited May 29, 2012 06:02 AM by himalaya
Did you realy get info about ER after needle biopsy report?
May 29, 2012 06:06 AM Kaara wrote:
himalaya: after the needle biopsy I got a preliminary report which included my grade, stage, and ER/PR status. After the surgery, all of that is further confirmed. That is the whole purpose of doing the biopsy..to find out type, grade, stage and status so you can make decisions about type of surgery and tx.
May 29, 2012 06:12 AM himalaya wrote:
yea, thank you!
This is what i want to get but i dont get!
What to do?
May 29, 2012 06:19 AM purple32 wrote:
I know my ER PR status etc ... but some ppl seem to know what % of ER or PR they are . Is that there in the lab report of the core biopsy or after surgery or is that a special test ?>May 29, 2012 06:20 AM Kaara wrote:
himalaya: Insist on a copy of your biopsy report from your BS. You should be able to have that...do you live in the USA? If so, it's the law. If not, then I would keep bugging them until I got it. Tell them you want it for a second opinion.
May 29, 2012 10:39 AM sweetbean wrote:
These are some great ideas re: broccoli, cauliflower, and cabbage slaw. I'm trying them out! I always eat the broccoli florets for lunch or dinner, juice the stems, and put broccoli sprouts in my morning smoothie. I'm broccoli-tastic!
Just for the record, I wonder if phytoestrogens are more problematic for some. I find abigail's experience to be unusual and maybe specific to her cancer. Cancer is so diverse, after all. Full disclosure: I eat phytoestrogens like they are going out of style and I believe that they are helpful to hormone positive women. Definitely differing opinions on this topic, for sure.
May 29, 2012 11:39 AM himalaya wrote:
Kaara, if could copy paste here her letter, telling that anyway i will see those details ONLY after surgery...i dont know what to think about it...did they loose my documents?
Maybe they dodnt wanna share??
Can be some other problem or trick??
Im living in Holland, maybe thats dutch style?
May 29, 2012 11:40 AM himalaya wrote:
I asked her twice, what i shall do now?
May 29, 2012 12:30 PM sweetbean wrote:
Does your hospital have a patient advocate? Someone to intervene on your behalf? This isn't right - I don't think that they can keep this info from you.
May 29, 2012 12:33 PM Kaara wrote:
himalaya: It may be that the laws are different in other countries, but I agree with sweetbean...that just isn't right. I know they have this information from the biopsy and you should be given the opportunity to have a look at it. After all, it's your body!
May 29, 2012 09:17 PM Joy_ wrote:
Himalaya, if you had a needle biopsy they may not have been able to get enough of a sample to test for hormone receptors. If it was a core biopsy then you should have a result. That's how my surgeon explained it but it was 3 years ago so I may be wrong. He said the pathology from the surgery can be different to the biopsy, so waiting for the operation would give the best answer.
The removal of the tumour will give you the right answers.
May 30, 2012 05:37 AM himalaya wrote:
I got fine needle biopsy and big needle biopsy with tisue.
What i understood is---they will give me ALL results after surgery, the needle biopsy and big biopsy all in one...but i wanna know now the small biopsy results...i will ask other doctor wha \t i can get, and what is the law.
May 30, 2012 06:26 AM KatRNagain92 wrote:
Joy, thanks for that information about not being able to get the histology ER/PR from a needle biopsy. With Breast Cancer 2.0, I had needle biopsies of 2 nodules. It seems I've been fighting the lab now for 6 months to give me something in writing that is indicative of the hormone status and all I keep getting is: "the morphology is comparable to the previous infiltrating ductal carcinoma which represents a metastasis of the primary"
It certainly makes sense that they can't get enough tissue to detect the receptors from a fine needle aspiration. I'll relax about it now. Thanks!
May 31, 2012 08:43 AM abigail48 wrote:
& again on the locked thread probably, I'd been eating beans & rice for a year or so, then a halping of beans after everything developed, gave me extreme pain, not just discomfort, & for quite awhile. havn't eaten beans since, & I miss them a lot. protein. but that & the experience with fennel convinced me about plant estrogens.
gary said once that brocolli contains some substance that negates the sulfur unless the vegetable is lightly steamed. so I stopped juicing the stems. also inconvenient as steaming lightly doesnt make them edible, have to cook them longer.
May 31, 2012 09:38 AM himalaya wrote:
so brocoli stems are not good for juicing?
May 31, 2012 10:22 AM abigail48 wrote:
I guess not. at his spa a woman was outraged because comming downstairs I guess in the morning for her wakeup cup of coffee she discovered the urns were filled with cabbage juice. so I guess cabbage & perhaps othe brassicas (?) don't have that sulfer zapping chemical.
May 31, 2012 09:27 PM painterly wrote:
Hi,
Was it on this thread that someone was mentioning that cipro had a black box warning and is dangerous to use? Just wondering. I have the beginning of a UTI. I saw this info. Should I not take it? Thanks.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ciproflo...
Jun 1, 2012 10:53 AM Kaara wrote:
painterly: I took levaquin which is a derivitive of cipro and it gave me a shoulder injury...rotator cuff tear. There are class action suits on this. There are other drugs you can take for a UTI that don't cause these damaging SE's
Jun 2, 2012 08:06 PM abigail48 wrote:
the moderators have locked up another site, perhaps for good reason, except no reason is good: they say the study was flawed, probably so. many many studies are. they say the sample was too small, but why not let us examine the site given for the studies for ourselves. e're not idiots, I think