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Jul 13, 2012 04:51 AM Racy wrote:
Thatgirl, have you read Foods that Fight Cancer?
Dx 2010, ILC, 2cm, Stage IIa, Grade 3, 0/22 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
All Topics → Forum: Alternative Medicine → Topic: What Can I Eat?
Posted on: Jul 13, 2012 12:13 AM
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Jul 13, 2012 04:51 AM Racy wrote:
Thatgirl, have you read Foods that Fight Cancer?
Jul 13, 2012 06:36 AM ohio4me wrote:
Are you ER+/PR+? A few things I steer clear of are alchohol - it producse aromatase which produces estrogen and soy - produces aromatase/estrogen also. Other than that I just try for heathy, balanced diet - I don't always succeed but that is my goal. I also steer clear of any OTC drugs/herbs/vitamins that are not approved by my oncologist. Don't want anything that may interfere with currents meds.
You may check with your cancer center and see if there is a nutritionist you can talk with. I met with one before chemo started and it was very helpful. I had a list of questions and she helped steer me in the right direction. During chemo and radiation I monitored my protein closely and I got through both treatments without setbacks so I know the nutrition stuff works.
Livestrong also has a list of aromatase producing foods - it's a short list: www.livestrong.com/article/445...
Hope this helps
Jul 13, 2012 05:11 PM Thatgirl wrote:
Hi Ladies,
Yes, I'm ER+/PR+. The reason I ask is because I've come across many books, articles and website's that list what fruits and veggies to eat for cancer. If you get organic it lowers the amount of pesticides you consume but not all. The pesticides are a endocrine distrupter. A lot of the fruits and veggies have phytoestrogens naturally. All of the meat and dairy have hormones. Tap water has estrogen in it and bottle water has estrogen and BPA. Soy is in everything under the sun including some conditioners.
Really, is there anything I can eat and drink ?
Jul 13, 2012 05:59 PM Shayne wrote:
organic meats do not have hormones
Jul 13, 2012 06:12 PM sweetbean wrote:
I eat phytoestrogens. I am in the camp that they are beneficial for hormone positive women. It's nice, because then I don't have to freak out about that.
Jul 13, 2012 10:41 PM Thatgirl wrote:
Shayne,
No. Organic meat do not have synthetic hormones but the feed they are given increases their estrogen naturally. Just like we use herbs, vitamins and minerals for certain things, farmers do too. They give animals a lot of feed with soy and other natural things that helps them to mature faster and fatter.
Jul 13, 2012 11:11 PM exbrnxgrl wrote:
I'm with sweetbean. I don't go out of my eat phytoestrogens in food, i.e. I don't drink soy milk, eat tofu etc., but if there is a bit of soy or other phytoestrogenic food I won't hesitate to eat it. Raspberries? I would gorge myself on them given the opportunity. I simply refuse to drive myself crazy or live without the pleasures of delicious food.
Caryn p.s. my daughter made fresh Vietnamese spring rolls for dinner. Shrimp, Manila mango, avocado, green onions,mint in tapioca starch wrappers dipped in a sweet chili sauce. Doubtless, there was some no-no in there but it was beautiful to look at and fresh and delicious to eat .
Jul 14, 2012 12:01 AM dlb823 wrote:
A book entitled, The Anti-Estrogenic Diet by Ori Hofmekler might be helpful. I personally don't worry too much about any food that's natural and plant-based, but I do pretty much stay away from all meat and most dairy now.
You might also look into maybe adding DIM or I3C to your supplements. Both modulate extra estrogen. Deanna
Jul 14, 2012 02:48 AM Thatgirl wrote:
Thanks guys. I am just so overwhelmed with trying to find the perfect meal for breakfast, lunch and dinner. Everything has something that COULD possible feed the c cells and it drives me nuts. I'm going to purchase the Anti-E book if I dont already have it.
Jul 14, 2012 09:13 AM, edited Jul 14, 2012 09:13 AM by Shayne
When I saw my naturopath, she told me no soy, dairy, sugar, coffee, processed foods......and to limit meats. She did say UNprocessed soy was ok, but Id rather stay away from it. When I saw my MO, she told me to not get so paranoid about food......but its really hard not to. I have a friend who avoids certain fruit because of their sugar content. Veggies too. Im aiming at a vegan diet, just taking one step at a time.
Thanks for the book rec! Ill look for that one!
Jul 14, 2012 10:16 AM peggy_j wrote:
After I finished Tx I spent a lot of time worrying about food: all organic, all the time. I rarely ate out cuz...who knows what's in there? Finally I had to back off, but I respect each person's decision. FWIW there are books that talk about eating to fight cancer, but they don't focus on estrogen. I like The Cancer Fighting Kitchen.
FWIW, I recently had a follow- up w/ my RO (he started the complementary therapies program at my medical foundation). His unsolicited advice was this:
--avoid/reduce alcohol
-- eat a palm-size serving of cruciferous veggies 5 times a week
--regular exercise
He said these things have a strong correlation w/ reduced risk of recurrence.