Hello again,
I have read a lot about the difficulties some of you have had with your DIEP surgery. That has helped me a lot. I asked my surgeon to write a letter supporting my appeal to the ins. co. to go to NOLA for DIEP. He declined. He thinks the procedure is too new and he can't recommend doctors he doesn't know. Okay, I get that.
Now, I am determined to find out every-freakin'-thing I can about Drs. D & S and their practice. On Monday I am going to call the physician referral number at Sloane Kettering to get reviews on them. That should satisfy my surgeon's questions.
I've read all of the accolades on this board written about these two surgeons, Drs. D & S and about their staff and everything. Now, I want to know if any of you have, in any little way, the tiniest of regrets about the doctors, the clinic, or the procedure. I really want to know the truth because it will help me to feel completely sure about my decision. If you don't want to post it to the forum, please PM me. I will be hard pressed to have my mind changed about having DIEP in NOLA with these docs, so don't worry about that. Just tell me the absolute truth.
Thank you so much. And if you just can't help it, you can reply with all of your good experiences and accolades, instead.
cheers,
Wendy
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gracejon Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 2,477 |
Oct 21, 2007 11:55 am, edited Oct 21, 2007 11:59 AM
by gracejon
gracejon wrote:
My regrets are very few but include travel and lodging expenses while I was staying in NOLA. I really feel guilty that I took that much money out of our family budget just for me. However I was mentally devastated by my reconstruction failures and in no way felt that anyone at home was good enough or experienced enough to give me these results. I also took many hours away from my family writing letters, fighting insurances and being upset that the doctors here would dare leave me the mutilated mess I had. My reconstruction was perfectly selfish on my part and I had never ever put myself first in the family. I am MOM and everyone and everythinbg comes first. I do know after this successful outcome, I am back to being mom and taking care of my family. Sure we took a severe financial hit but without it, I would have never been back to me. Although selfish, I think my guilt is gone since I would haver never gotten past how I felt about myself and what I looked like. I have never never regretted going to them for reconstruction. The docs and the office staff became my saving grace. |
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althea Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,577 |
Oct 21, 2007 03:22 pm, edited Oct 21, 2007 03:22 PM
by althea
althea wrote:
I went to NOLA for my DIEP and believe me, I did NOT have the support of my local medical 'team'. I wish the boards went back to the time I posted my experience. I feel like a broken record sometimes when I chime in on this topic. Anyway, I was terrified of the surgery portion of treatment. I learned of DIEP through this very forum. At the time, there was a woman who was having serious complications from her diep, and still she had praises for her surgeons. I felt like I did my due diligence in learning about the procedures and Drs D and S. Yet, my local surgeon reacted in a way that made me apprehensive. If I had told him I was going to roam the streets of a mexican border town to find a breast surgeon, I think I would've received the same reaction I got that day I told him I wanted DIEP and I wanted DIEP in New Orleans. I can understand the surgeon being taken aback by my decision, but my oncologist also had a snotty attitude toward 'those people' in New Orleans. I had the uneasy feeling that they knew about some dirt on these doctors in the next state, but they wouldn't say anything directly. It made me feel like they were trying to warn me against making a horrible mistake. All this freaked me out enough to make an extra trip to nola just to have a consultation. Fortunately, I have local friends who lived in nola years ago. They have friends in the medical community, and as it turned out, the woman who did my mastectomy was a personal friend of my friends, and of their friends we stayed with in Metairie. Suzie, my local friend, is also a survivor, and she was very impressed with the Center. And her friend who is a radiologist in Metairie had good things to say about Drs D and S. I felt like I was on the inside track, getting the best information available. I had a feeling of peace at several moments along the way. When I requested the information packet from the Center, I felt a distinct feeling of peace come over me. As things unfolded closer to surgery, I felt like I was being guided to the best surgeons by having a local connection to the folks in NOLA. My friend Suzie knew the woman who was to perform my mastectomy. Our travel plans went smoothly, despite tropical storm Cyndy blowing over our heads one night. My consult with Dr S put my mind at ease over having radiation after my reconstruction. I had two other friends who went with me and stayed with me during my surgery and the week following. I was as much at peace prior to the surgery as a terrified person can be. I knew I would be in good hands, but surgery still scared me to pieces. I did have some complications. During anasthesia, the intestines collapse, and if they don't 'come back', it's called an ileus. Well, I had an ileus, and I was not able to hold down my food. As you can imagine, puking is not the thing to do after abdominal surgery! But it's very treatable, and I got through that in short order. And it certainly wasn't the kind of complication that required more surgery. Everyone's comfort level is different. For me, I wanted a 'twofer'. I didn't want a mastectomy first and reconstruction later. I wanted immediate reconstruction, mainly because I thought of it as two surgery, one recovery time. Some people will say it's easier to recover from implant surgery than diep, but to my mind, the complications from implants seem way more devastating than anything I've seen described connected with diep. I've been frequenting this forum for more than two years now. I think my recovery went much easier than what I've seen some other women describe. I just don't know. It's the only major surgery I've ever had, so I don't have a frame of reference. What I do know without a doubt is this -- the doctors and the staff at the Center gave me the best medical experience of my life. They are so accommodating at every single step of the way. They are NICE! And nice goes a long way when you have chemobrain and you're scared to pieces at the thought of losing a body part from major surgery. I am now a very firm believer in the wisdom of seeking out surgeons who specialize and that it's worth the travel to get there. <> <><>Dx 12/22/2004, ILC, 5cm, Stage II, Grade 1, 0/1 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- |
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Wendy Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 219 |
Oct 21, 2007 08:33 pm
Wendy wrote:
Thanks to both of you. I'm sorry to hear that you had to fight the local docs to do what was best for you, but glad to hear that I'm not alone. Althea, it sounds like you really have no regrets with your choices. I'm glad to hear that. I understand about the broken record thing. I feel the same way and I've only been dealing with this for a couple of months. I might become a reconstruction activist after all of this. There is so much, locally, to help with diagnosis and living with cancer, but after the girls go, the local places (charities, etc.) don't seem to know much. I had to find out for myself. Thank you gracejon and althea. Keep 'em coming, ladies. cheers, Wendy |
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kathyv Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 45 |
Oct 22, 2007 11:05 am
kathyv wrote:
Hi Wendy, I have no regrets about getting the DIEP reconstruction vs TRAM. I already have back and some mobility issues, so for me DIEP was the only clear choice. I had already decided that if my insurance would not pay for the out of network docs I would get the mastectomies and then get the reconstruction later. I did find some docs in network at Mayo and one in Chicago that did DIEP. Thank goodness my insurance did come through at the last minute. I was scheduled to have surgery on Tuesday and heard the prior Thursday night that the insurance had come through. I hated being away from my extended support system while I was in NOLA, but my husband was great. (He probably needed a vacation when we got home) If I had to do it again I would. The only think I would change is that I would have had a car available when we were at the Hope Lodge so we could have gotten around more easily without relying on a taxi. hope that helps, Kathy |
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Colleen123 Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 448 |
Oct 22, 2007 12:50 pm
Colleen123 wrote:
Hi Wendy... I can't comment on DIEP because I had SGAP (no tummy fat), but I believe the results are the same. I had delayed reconstruction, so I have scars, but considering that I came with nothing, my results are amazing. My hubby and I still can't get over that these two amazing surgeons (Drs. D and S at NOLA) have created breasts from two pieces of flat fat from my backside. I actually look better now than I did before bc. (except for the scars, of course, which will fade over time). As far as the doctors and staff at NOLA.... there is not even one teensy, weensy, thing I could say bad about them. The whole experience was probably one of the best in my life. You will not find a more caring bunch of people. They thought of everything from having a small heater blowing on you when you have your photos taken to giving you soft, pretty slipper socks for your hospital stay (something quite new, they told me). They even sent me a birthday card !!! (When was the last time you got a birthday card from your doctor???). I had my surgery at Oschner Baptist Hospital because it was less expensive than Omega, and the staff there were awesome as well. I am from Canada and had no insurance. I had to pay for all of this totally, but the Center at NOLA did their best to keep my costs down and researched the other hospital fees, etc. They provide a limo service to drive you to all your appointments and to and from the airport. They have a discounted rate at a number of hotels in New Orleans and Metairie. As I said.... they thought of everything. I hope you can go there as I know you will not be disappointed. They have just added a surgeon to their staff, so now there are three of them. Hugs, Colleen |
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kimmie39 Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 308 |
Oct 23, 2007 09:46 am
kimmie39 wrote:
Can some one clarify NOLA and DRs. D and S? Id like to look it up and get info. Thanks |
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cc01 Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 89 |
Oct 23, 2007 10:20 am
cc01 wrote:
Where is NOLA and who are the docs you are speaking of? |
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Felicia Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 2,252 |
Oct 23, 2007 10:38 am, edited Oct 23, 2007 12:36 PM
by Felicia
Felicia wrote:
NOLA is short for New Orleans, Louisiana.
Give it all you've got!!
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Wendy Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 219 |
Oct 23, 2007 10:39 am
Wendy wrote:
I think it's spelled DellaCroce. Wendy |
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lornafrost Joined: May 2007 Posts: 70 |
Oct 23, 2007 11:19 am
lornafrost wrote:
Dear Wendy, At the moment I am in NOLA having had my stage 2 surgery last Wednesday, which was performed by Dr DellaCroce. I am from the UK and had a left sided diep in March of this year. The result was disastrous. I was left with a huge circular "patch" that made up almost the whole front aspect of my lump. The lump itself was a sort of folded over ring donut - very deeply creased/concave in the middle - no projection at all. I found the site in NOLA by complete chance. After much investigation, I made contact with the center & have never looked back! Dr D was able to revise my lump - it now has a nipple sized "patch" - this seemed to be a priority for him. (I have gone past caring what it looks like, it could look like a patchwork quilt & be coloured purple as long as it's breast shaped & fits into a bra!) He has managed to reshape it into a real breast shape.... he then reduced my other breast to match and has done an AMAZING job. I was a 30G bra size. I have no idea what I am at the moment, because I'm still swollen & very bruised.. but it looks as if it could be possibly a D - and a very perky one at that!!! The staff at the BreastCenter have been amazing. I know that customer service is very important to you Americans & that you expect as a matter of course, a very high standard. Honestly tho', I could not be more impressed or reassured. The small touches matter.... while I was being photographed before the op, I was kept warm by a little heater, my dignity very much cared for. I was also provided with some really cute soft fluffy socks... My friend who was with me made a comment about how lovely they looked - so they gave her a pair too!!! Dr D himself was a shock - how can such a young man have that much talent? I found him to have a very calming influence, I immediately trusted him - he was able to pinpoint my key concerns without me having to voice them within seconds of his examination. He was eloquent and articulate and explained everything to me in a very clear manner. He told me that it would be probable that I would need further revision surgery, he liked a challenge & hadn't seen one quite like mine in a long time. He further said that he would not be prepared to compromise the results of the surgery by attempting to get an immediate result. When he came to see me in the hospital the next day, he told me that he was very happy with the surgery & had achieved more than he thought. Me? I am so very happy - even with the "ladies" as they look now. My appearance has been improved 100%. Don't hesitate - you've found the best! I wish you every success with your surgery, if you put yourself in their hands, success WILL be yours. With warmest wishes, Lorna |
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lornafrost Joined: May 2007 Posts: 70 |
Oct 23, 2007 11:44 am
lornafrost wrote:
Dear Wendy, Forgot to say..... I am staying at the HOPE LODGE in River Road, N Orleans. It is a sort of self catering hotel, it's beautifully appointed, very clean and staffed with friendly and helpful people - and it's free. It's free to anyone undergoing any cancer related treatment. Your accomodation here can be arranged by the BreastCenter, who organised EVERYTHING for me - including air fare for both myself & my friend who flew from Brunei. The Hope Lodge is somewhere I would most enthusiastically recommend......if you need any info just ask. Lots love, Lorna |
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Wendy Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 219 |
Oct 23, 2007 11:49 am
Wendy wrote:
Everything you all are writing in response to my question is what I expected to hear. In truth, I am absolutely convinced that NOLA is the place for me. Lorna, I've been following your trip through these postings and I'm so happy to hear how successful everything has been. Before today, though, I didn't have a clear idea of the botched job from before. How great is it that you got to come to the US and go to Dr. DellaCroce to make it right. I'm so happy for you. Yes, dignity is important. Nice goes a long, long way. I've been shocked and saddened and livid, even, by some of the things I've read done and said by plastic surgeons. If anything will improve my impression of the profession it will be drs. d, s & t. Thank you. hugs, Wendy |
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Wendy Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 219 |
Oct 23, 2007 11:50 am
Wendy wrote:
Oh, and good info on Hope Lodge. I'm considering my options about accomodations. HL will definitely be on the list. Thank you, Lorna, Wendy |
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kcq Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 144 |
Oct 23, 2007 12:01 pm
kcq wrote:
Dr. Richard Kline is in Charleston, SC. He also studied under Dr. Allen. Dr. Kline will be doing my DIEP in November. They are a GREAT bunch!!! I have been to see Dr. Kline THREE times now with questions that keep arising. He is very patient with me. I am very nervous about the surgery, but I know that I am in good hands. His office also sponsored a table at the Komen race this past weekend. |
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Sandy-MomsD
Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,270 |
Oct 24, 2007 02:49 am
Sandy-MomsDaughter wrote:
Lorna, did you have a drain in the DIEP breast this time around? |
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lornafrost Joined: May 2007 Posts: 70 |
Oct 24, 2007 11:33 am
lornafrost wrote:
Dear Sandy, Quickly - yes I did, but not for long! have sent you a PM on this. Wendy, sounds as if you've made your mind up to go to NOLA. May I say..... a most sound decision! Congrats - keep me informed re your progress. Lotsa! Lorna xx |
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bbmom Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 567 |
Oct 24, 2007 01:26 pm
bbmom wrote:
Lorna, I'm scheduled next month with Dr. D. for stage 2. Did you leave the hospital with the drain? |
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kathyv Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 45 |
Oct 24, 2007 03:20 pm
kathyv wrote:
I was hoping beyond hope that there would be no drains for stage 2, that was the worst most painful part of the entire surgery!! |
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lornafrost Joined: May 2007 Posts: 70 |
Oct 24, 2007 06:04 pm
lornafrost wrote:
Dear Alaina, I'm mindful that this thread is concerned with Wendy's enq re NOLA - but no, I didn't have any drains when I left hospital. I'm sorry Kathy that you found them so painful - I really didn't know they were there! Imagine having large glass bottles at the end of very long tubes that constantly got entangled in everything - that was what I had when I had the initial diep done in the UK!!! Cheers, Lorna |
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Wendy Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 219 |
Oct 25, 2007 11:30 am
Wendy wrote:
Lorna, No worries about hi-jacking the thread, I'm interested in the drain question, too. I detest those things. Hi-jack away, y'all. cheers to all, Wendy |
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Sandy-MomsD
Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,270 |
Jul 2, 2009 11:46 pm
Sandy-MomsDaughter wrote:
bump "More and more as I am here and see what life really is, I understand that it is not when or how you die but how and if you truly were ever alive." Dr. Jerri Nielsen
Dx 5/22/2007, IDC, <1cm, Stage I, Grade 3, 0/1 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- |
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Wendy Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 219 |
Jul 3, 2009 10:56 am
Wendy wrote:
I might as well chime in, now. I originated this post. I am now a NOLA grad and have NO regrets. Wendy Wendy
Dx 5/2007, DCIS, 1cm, Stage I, 0/2 nodes |
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Sandy-MomsD
Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,270 |
Jul 3, 2009 11:18 am, edited Jul 3, 2009 11:18 AM
by Sandy-MomsDaughter
Sandy-MomsDaughter wrote:
Lorna's story was instrumental in convincing me I'd made the right decision while I anxiously awaited my first surgery in NOLA. She posted about her experience here and on the FORCE board and had traveled all the way from the U.K. In fact, the "NOLA Club" and the t-shirt ideas originated with her. "More and more as I am here and see what life really is, I understand that it is not when or how you die but how and if you truly were ever alive." Dr. Jerri Nielsen
Dx 5/22/2007, IDC, <1cm, Stage I, Grade 3, 0/1 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- |
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althea Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,577 |
Jul 3, 2009 06:18 pm
althea wrote:
My surgery anniversary dates are coming around and I realized I haven't visited this section in quite a while. I hope Lorna is doing ok now! She sure had a rough go of things. Anyway, I'm almost 4 years out from my stage 1. I remain tremendously grateful for this forum, where I first heard of the good doctors in nola. I am grateful for the fantastic surgery and medical care on every level I received in nola. I'm still a happy camper all this time later. The only thing I that could've made it better would've been bypassing bc altogether. I still have fatigue, which I attribute to a thyroid being knocked out of balance by rads (and local doctors who are zero help on this topic). As far as surgery is concerned, though, I absolutely loved the team in nola. They were the best. I like the kind of doctors who fix what needs fixing and then you don't go back anymore. They're great at what they do, and they get it done right the first time. My idea of a balanced diet is a cookie in each hand
Dx 12/22/2004, ILC, 5cm, Stage II, Grade 1, 0/1 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- |
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fightinhrd1
Joined: Aug 2008 Posts: 313 |
Jul 13, 2009 11:06 pm
fightinhrd123 wrote:
Does anyone know if HMO insurance allows you to go to NOLA? I live in Southern California, and am having a hard time with my implant, have to get a DIEP Thanks, Laura Dx 5/29/2008, IDC, 2cm, Stage IIb, Grade 2, ER-/PR-, HER2+ |
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Sandy-MomsD
Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,270 |
Jul 14, 2009 01:03 am, edited Jul 14, 2009 01:11 AM
by Sandy-MomsDaughter
Sandy-MomsDaughter wrote:
Hi Laura, I'm not sure, but a few women I know are planning to change to PPOs this coming November, in order to have surgery in NOLA next year. This includes my younger sister, who wants prophylactic mastectomies and one-step implants with Dr. DellaCroce. Your best bet is to contact the Center and they'll be able to tell you if your current insurance will allow you to have your reconstruction in NOLA. You can start here: http://www.breastcenter.com/contact/starting.php Sandy "More and more as I am here and see what life really is, I understand that it is not when or how you die but how and if you truly were ever alive." Dr. Jerri Nielsen
Dx 5/22/2007, IDC, <1cm, Stage I, Grade 3, 0/1 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- |
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