Did anyone try this? Did it help? Are there different brands? I think at least CVS has one.. Any brand better than the other(s)? There is an area in my scar that is more red and elevated. I could try something to make it look less prominent. All the best, ĺucky
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sbmolee Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,021 |
Jan 26, 2009 07:44 pm
sbmolee wrote:
Hi - I have read of some that use a paper tape. I can't wear tape long or I get a rash where is was. For me - time - was the best healer. Live life to the fullest - it is not a spectator sport.
Dx 3/27/2008, DCIS, 2cm, Stage Ia, Grade 3, 0/2 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- |
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Deirdre1 Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 907 |
Jan 26, 2009 09:29 pm
Deirdre1 wrote:
I used it and it did help - but then I needed a revision and the scars were re-opened, it didn't do as good a job the second time. My ps has them in his office, believes they work and suggests them. I ended up (after I ran out of the ps's samples) using the off brand name and they seemed to do the same thing.. I also got a few from CVS - I didn't see any improvement with the creams and jells.. |
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car Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 484 |
Jan 26, 2009 09:38 pm
car wrote:
I've been using them on the advice of my PS who recommended that I get the generic brand (the one that's available at CVS). They seem to be working OK--hard for me to tell since I heal slowly. He did give me a good tip. When you take the silicone off, put the clear strips back on and put them in the fridge to firm up again. You can extend their reuse life to maybe 4 days. You also can keep some paper surgical tape around to help them stick. Good luck. His fridge tip to keep the cost down really helped. Unilateral mx 1/17/07, exchange 6/4/07, DIEP 4/25/08
Dx 8/8/2006, DCIS, 3cm, Stage 0, Grade 2, 0/4 nodes, ER+/PR+ |
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abinneb Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 549 |
Jan 26, 2009 10:21 pm
abinneb wrote:
Hi Lucky - I am just finishing up the use of the CVS scar tape after 3 months recommended by my PS as soon as I was healed from the exchange. I see my PS in early February for a routine check and I think he'll be happy - I am. The scars do look fine - soft and flat. sbmolee - I have severe reactions to adhesive - they couldn't use it on me after my mast - he had me padded and ace-bandaged so they could get around the use of any tape. I have found absolutely no problem with these "tapes". It is hard to describe - they are NOT sticky like adhesive bandaides. They stay on yet come off easily with no problem. Good luck - hope it works out well for you! Amy bilat mast-L prophy 6/24/08 Exch 9/29/08
Dx 5/12/2008, DCIS, , Stage 0, Grade 3, 0/3 nodes, ER+/PR+ |
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Deirdre1 Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 907 |
Jan 27, 2009 12:04 am
Deirdre1 wrote:
Oh car, that's such a great tip! I am still trying to clear up my incision from the revision and have been using the generic brand.. God knows we need ways to keep the cost of all of this stuff down! Thanks! |
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car Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 484 |
Jan 27, 2009 12:10 am
car wrote:
Dierdre--thank my PS. He's absolutely wonderful. Heading off to the Mideast to do recons for charity over the next couple of months! I hope the tip helps--it has really helped me stretch my $$$. Unilateral mx 1/17/07, exchange 6/4/07, DIEP 4/25/08
Dx 8/8/2006, DCIS, 3cm, Stage 0, Grade 2, 0/4 nodes, ER+/PR+ |
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Tina337 Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 186 |
Jan 27, 2009 07:27 am
Tina337 wrote:
Is there a "window" for when these tapes work? Are they only good at preventing scars right after surgery? Would they work on existing scars? I'm 4 months post-exchange and have been using Palmer's cocoa butter for the last 1-2 months. My PS didn't recommend anything. I think my scars could look better -- maybe I'm just anxious for them to fade. |
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car Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 484 |
Jan 27, 2009 11:37 am
car wrote:
My PS started me on the silicone sheets about 6 weeks postop. I'd give it a try. Unilateral mx 1/17/07, exchange 6/4/07, DIEP 4/25/08
Dx 8/8/2006, DCIS, 3cm, Stage 0, Grade 2, 0/4 nodes, ER+/PR+ |
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car Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 484 |
Jan 27, 2009 11:38 am
car wrote:
My PS started me on the silicone sheets about 6 weeks postop. I'd give it a try. Unilateral mx 1/17/07, exchange 6/4/07, DIEP 4/25/08
Dx 8/8/2006, DCIS, 3cm, Stage 0, Grade 2, 0/4 nodes, ER+/PR+ |
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Dejaboo Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 2,094 |
Jan 27, 2009 11:56 am
Dejaboo wrote:
Hmm- I wonder if this might prevent my 4 month old scars that are getting wider & shinny (turning Keloid) from getting worse. Any thoughts? My Lumpectomy scar is very bad- Keloid & also getting even worse. What do these things look like & where in the store do you find them? I suppose near the Bandaids & such - duh- LOL How expensive is a package? Thanks, Pam Dx 3/7/2008,DCIS, IDC-1.2mm, Stage I, Grade 1, 0/1 nodes, ER+/PR-,HER2+,Lump/SNB-4/1/08, Bilat 5/22/08, EX 9/22/08, PFO & ASA heart Closure 12-29-08, 2nd EX-July 09-to fix PS Mess Up!
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samiam40 Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 408 |
Jan 27, 2009 12:00 pm
samiam40 wrote:
I also have a tendency to keloid and am worried about developing keloid scars on my mastectomy site. Dejaboo, I plan to ask my surgeon to inject the site with topical steroids (prevents scar formation) if it starts to look bad--have you considered that? IDC dx 1/12/09, 1.6 cm, Grade 2, ER+/PR+/HER2-, MIB-1 15%, BRCA neg, bilat mx w/TEs scheduled 2/3/09
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Dejaboo Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 2,094 |
Jan 27, 2009 12:04 pm
Dejaboo wrote:
From what I have read as a treatment of keloids Steroids dont help much (may be good for preventative) I havent found anything good that says they are very treatable. I did read Retin A may help...I have that & have put it on the last 3 nights. I will continue with it for at least awhile. My SNB scar which is about 1 1/4 " long healed wonderfully! Which is great...Why didnt it keloid? I guess I didnt know I was suseptible to them...As I dont have any other deep scars really. Please share what all you know about them Samian. My Mastectomy scars looked great 3 weeks ago! Now they dont : ( Pam Dx 3/7/2008,DCIS, IDC-1.2mm, Stage I, Grade 1, 0/1 nodes, ER+/PR-,HER2+,Lump/SNB-4/1/08, Bilat 5/22/08, EX 9/22/08, PFO & ASA heart Closure 12-29-08, 2nd EX-July 09-to fix PS Mess Up!
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car Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 484 |
Jan 27, 2009 12:43 pm
car wrote:
Dejaboo, my PS specifically mentioned keloid prevention. I think that they'd be worth a try--though I have a friend who said that they didn't seem to help her daughter's wound on her thigh (I don't know if she had a tendency to form keloids). Generics are made by CVS and are there by the gauze and bandaids. I did not find them at Target or Longs. They're also available online, but by brand name (Neosporin Scar Solution) which is much more expensive. Mine run $25 for 28 large sheets. I'm treating my breast incisions as well as a long abdominal incision from DIEP, so I go through them pretty quickly. However, they can be trimmed, and they can be used for up to 4-5 days if you refrigerate them (putting the plastic backing back on) when you remove them for showering, and if they're really starting to go in terms of the adhesive, use paper surgical tape to hold them on. The adhesive is just to keep them in place. Your body heat slowly releases the silicone into the scar. Good luck! Unilateral mx 1/17/07, exchange 6/4/07, DIEP 4/25/08
Dx 8/8/2006, DCIS, 3cm, Stage 0, Grade 2, 0/4 nodes, ER+/PR+ |
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Dejaboo Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 2,094 |
Jan 27, 2009 12:50 pm
Dejaboo wrote:
Thanks Car I will try to get to a CVS tonight...I had it in my head that they were nice & close...I forgot they are still building that new CVS- its not open yet- LOL Its certainly worth me trying. How much wider do you cut them then the scar? That CVS price is much better sounding then the ones I found on line at Walgreens. One big sheet was $60! Pam Dx 3/7/2008,DCIS, IDC-1.2mm, Stage I, Grade 1, 0/1 nodes, ER+/PR-,HER2+,Lump/SNB-4/1/08, Bilat 5/22/08, EX 9/22/08, PFO & ASA heart Closure 12-29-08, 2nd EX-July 09-to fix PS Mess Up!
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car Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 484 |
Jan 27, 2009 01:06 pm
car wrote:
You're welcome, Pam. The big sheets are a pain in the butt. CVS's are 1.5 x 2.75. I use one one to cover the entire area where the DIEP transplant was done (I'm a 32B, so there's not a lot to cover!), and use two to cover the entire area of my lift (pursestring lift, scar completely surrounding healthy areola). Then, I cut them in half for the DIEP scar--use two total. What is tough is trimming and trying to get the strip to cover anything more than a straight line. That's why I just slap the whole strip "up north." Let me know how it goes. Unilateral mx 1/17/07, exchange 6/4/07, DIEP 4/25/08
Dx 8/8/2006, DCIS, 3cm, Stage 0, Grade 2, 0/4 nodes, ER+/PR+ |
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Dejaboo Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 2,094 |
Jan 27, 2009 01:14 pm
Dejaboo wrote:
Ok, Thanks. Yeah I know the paper tape was a pain to try & cuve- it didnt work very well. My Mast scars are fairly straight- But do have a little curve- they are about 4" long. My Lump scar is straight maybe 3" long...Im going to take a picture today...So I can check progress in a few weeks. Good luck with your scars too! Pam Dx 3/7/2008,DCIS, IDC-1.2mm, Stage I, Grade 1, 0/1 nodes, ER+/PR-,HER2+,Lump/SNB-4/1/08, Bilat 5/22/08, EX 9/22/08, PFO & ASA heart Closure 12-29-08, 2nd EX-July 09-to fix PS Mess Up!
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car Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 484 |
Jan 27, 2009 01:47 pm
car wrote:
Thanks, so far so good though I have to time my workouts (sweaty) and showers to get the maximum benefit. They say wear a minimum of 12 hours, I wear them unless I'm wet. Your lump scar can probably be covered w/half a sheet. Good luck! Unilateral mx 1/17/07, exchange 6/4/07, DIEP 4/25/08
Dx 8/8/2006, DCIS, 3cm, Stage 0, Grade 2, 0/4 nodes, ER+/PR+ |
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abinneb Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 549 |
Jan 27, 2009 02:55 pm
abinneb wrote:
Hey Pam I sent you pics of the box front and back and the instruction sheet just so you could get an idea of what to look for if you go. My PS had checked around previously and around here the only place that carries them is CVS. Amy bilat mast-L prophy 6/24/08 Exch 9/29/08
Dx 5/12/2008, DCIS, , Stage 0, Grade 3, 0/3 nodes, ER+/PR+ |
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penny54 Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 22 |
Jan 27, 2009 06:52 pm
penny54 wrote:
My PS gave me NEWGEL+ medical grade/hypoallergenic silicone gel sheeting. The strips can be cut to any size. This material is washable/reuseable. Worn daily a minimum of 6 hours. Full benefit is seen within 3-6 months of use. There is a website: www.newmedical.com . It's pricey to buy online. These worked well for me. Yesterday is history. Tomorrow a mystery. Today is a gift. That's why it's called the present.
Dx 7/5/2005, IDC, 1cm, Stage I, Grade 3, 0/3 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- |
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Tina337 Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 186 |
Jan 27, 2009 09:51 pm
Tina337 wrote:
Pam, that's a great idea to take a picture before starting. I'm going to try it, too. Tina |
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bailey34dd Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 11 |
Jan 27, 2009 10:04 pm
bailey34dd wrote:
Hi there - here is some information on all the different scar remedies - hope this helps you in some way :) This site has a lot of information: http://www.cosmeticsurgeryforums.com/Scar_Treatments.htm Silicone Sheeting ReJuveness Silicone Sheeting: ReJuveness silicone sheets are made of USP medical grade six-silicone which can be cut to any size and shape. ReJuveness is soft and pliable and easily conforms to any body part. ReJuveness is proven effective at healing and preventing hypertrophic and keloid scars resulting from burns, plastic surgery procedures, surgeries, acne, cuts and abrasion. Silon Silicone Sheeting: Oleeva Clear® Transparent Silicone Sheeting is a silicone sheeting offering transparency and remarkable stretch and conforming characteristics. Oleeva Fabric® Silicone Sheeting with Fabric Backing is a silicone sheeting with a fabric backing. The silky fabric backing makes it easy to wear under clothing, it also reduces shear force and edge roll-up when used under pressure garments. Oleeva Scar Shapes® Precut Shapes for Scar Management Following Surgery are made from Oleeva Fabric and shaped specifically to treat scarring from breast, abdominal and other surgical procedures. The designs of these products ensure proper placement and coverage. Syprex Silicone Sheeting: Syprex scar treatment sheet is the most cost effective scar care product available when compared to other scar management methods. Made in the USA of pure medical grade silicone, 0.6mm thick (the thickness of a credit card), soft and flexible. PMT Corp Silicone Sheeting: Soft, reinforced silicone gel shapes that have been developed to soften and lighten hypertrophic and keloid scars. The GelShapes are specifically designed for the treatment of scars resulting from breast reduction, abdominoplasty, TRAM flap and C-section procedures. ScarEase Silicone Sheeting & Gel: ScarEase Sheets and ScarEase Gel are indicated for use in the management of hypertrophic and keloid scars. When used following surgical procedures, ScarEase may prevent hypertrophic and keloid scarring. ScarEase Sheets may work better in certain cases, but have use limitations. vSince ScarEase Sheeting is self adhering, it supplies gentle mechanical pressure on the skin surface. This is a benefit! Neosporin Scar Solution: The thin, flexible layer of silicone in NEOSPORIN® SCAR SOLUTION® Silicone Scar Sheets covers and protects your scar like normal, healthy skin, significantly improving the appearance of scars. Curad Scar Therapy: Clinically proven. Reduces raised, colored and keloid scars. Virtually invisible. Curad Scar Therapy Clear Pads are virtually invisible. They are perfect for any skin color as they blend with your natural skin tone. Scar Gels and Creams Scar Guard: Scar Guard offers four different treatments for the management of scars (old and new) - and is the most powerful and effective treatment developed. It is a clear liquid that forms a fine flexible film within a few seconds after painting it onto the scar. This film helps to protect the scar from irritation while delivering silicone cortisone and vitamin E throughout the day. Kelocote: Kelo-cote® is a patented topical silicone gel for the management and prevention of abnormal scars in the form of hypertrophic scars and keloids. ScarFade: In 1998, Scarfade was introduced in the form of a topical silicone gel which is applied like a cream. It forms a micro-thin layer of silicone on the scar. ScarEase: ScarEase Gel can be used to manage both old and new scars resulting from burns, surgical procedures and traumatic events. Most people like ScarEase Gel better than ScarEase Sheets because it is "easier to use." Syprex Scar Cream: Syprex scar cream works to help flatten, even, and fade dark or discolored skin while providing healing qualities for scars - old or new, caused by acne, surgery or trauma to the skin and stretch marks. Results are permanent and may be seen in as little as 4-6 weeks with full results in 3-9 months. ReJuveness Scar Cream: ReJuveness cream is a combination of recent advancements in lipid and transdermal technology. Post surgical patients and clinicians are reporting accelerated healing and in many a near scar-less appearance at the lesion site. Other Topical Treatments: Mederma: Mederma comes as a silicone gel and also a new cream, which has a SPF-30 in it to protect the scar from the sun. The main ingredient is Cepalin, which is a proprietary botanical extract which comes from onions. According to a small Pilot study evaluating topical onion extract as treatment for post-surgical scars - published by PubMed - August 25, 1999, authors B.A. Jackson and A.J. Shelton, found that this main ingredient in Mederma concluded the following: "Topical onion gel extract was ineffective in improving scar erythema and pruritus in our patients." Most patients who have tried Mederma have suffered some sort of allergic reaction to it because of the onion extract, making the scars more angry looking than before treatment." Vitamin E: helps by working on the collagen fibers and makes a scar softer and more pliable. However, in a double blind study, found that Vitamin E was indeed ineffective in reducing the symptoms of a hypertrophic scar or keloid. Bio-Oil: Bio-Oil is a specialist skin care product that is recommended for scars, stretch marks, uneven skin tone, aging, and dehydrated skin. It is formulated for use on both the face and body. product has improved the appearance of regular scars tremendously; however has very little effect on hypertrophic scars or keloids. Retin-A: Retinoic Acid or Tretinoin is derived from Vitamin A. Retinol, which is a less potent form of Retin-A also has some very strong medical studies backing the effectiveness of this type of topical cream to help with scar formation. This is a prescription formulation of Vitamin A, and is marketed under the brand names of Retin-A Micro, Renova, Avage, and Tazorac. There is also the less potent over the counter products called Retinol. After your surgical wound has closed up completely, applying Retin-A to the scar fades out the redness it might have and helps with exfoliating the area. At first, Retin-A can actually make the area look worse with redness, flakiness and peeling, for up to eight weeks. But by 24 weeks, patients will see dramatic marked improvements. Retin-A along with the application of steri-strips helps with keeping tension off of the incision site, so a thin scar will form. |
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samiam40 Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 408 |
Jan 27, 2009 11:06 pm
samiam40 wrote:
My SNB scar which is about 1 1/4 " long healed wonderfully! Which is great...Why didnt it keloid? Different parts of your body are more susceptible to forming keloid scars than others. It also has to do with whether there is tension on the scar. I have a problem with them on my back and shoulders. However, the scar from my excisional biopsy in 2002 is perfectly smooth and flat and I never used anything on it. I am hoping I will get lucky again. I have tried to use the silicone sheeting before on other scars and personally found it to be very inconvenient. However, so many things about having a mastectomy with reconstruction are going to be inconvenient that maybe I'll have a whole new tolerance for it. IDC dx 1/12/09, 1.6 cm, Grade 2, ER+/PR+/HER2-, MIB-1 15%, BRCA neg, bilat mx w/TEs scheduled 2/3/09
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Jan 28, 2009 05:41 pm
theycallmelucky wrote:
Thank you for your helpful answers everyone! I think I'll go to CVS and get myself those silicone sheets. For the most part, my scars are flat and pink without any treatment, but there is this weird area on the prophy side that is raised and red. I'll come back and tell you if the sheets helped.. Double mastectomy: high grade wide DCIS + prophylactic. Delayed reconstruction in 08
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Dejaboo Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 2,094 |
Jan 28, 2009 05:48 pm
Dejaboo wrote:
wow- I got behind on this thread already. Thanks for th eLinks & Info. I did try Walgreens last night- as they are very close. They had some on line - expensive...But nothing in the store. Im still going to try to get to CVS tonight or tomorrow. I want to get them started ASAP. I thought about looking up CVS locations several times today...And I keep forgetting to. Off to do that now- LOL Pam Dx 3/7/2008,DCIS, IDC-1.2mm, Stage I, Grade 1, 0/1 nodes, ER+/PR-,HER2+,Lump/SNB-4/1/08, Bilat 5/22/08, EX 9/22/08, PFO & ASA heart Closure 12-29-08, 2nd EX-July 09-to fix PS Mess Up!
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car Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 484 |
Jan 28, 2009 05:55 pm
car wrote:
Pam--FYI, CVS sells their own brand as the generic. You should find them there (and will soon have beauteous scars). car Unilateral mx 1/17/07, exchange 6/4/07, DIEP 4/25/08
Dx 8/8/2006, DCIS, 3cm, Stage 0, Grade 2, 0/4 nodes, ER+/PR+ |
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Dejaboo Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 2,094 |
Jan 28, 2009 05:57 pm
Dejaboo wrote:
Beauteous Scars- Ha Ha Pam Dx 3/7/2008,DCIS, IDC-1.2mm, Stage I, Grade 1, 0/1 nodes, ER+/PR-,HER2+,Lump/SNB-4/1/08, Bilat 5/22/08, EX 9/22/08, PFO & ASA heart Closure 12-29-08, 2nd EX-July 09-to fix PS Mess Up!
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car Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 484 |
Jan 28, 2009 06:17 pm
car wrote:
Cuteuous--ahahahahaha! car Unilateral mx 1/17/07, exchange 6/4/07, DIEP 4/25/08
Dx 8/8/2006, DCIS, 3cm, Stage 0, Grade 2, 0/4 nodes, ER+/PR+ |
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Dejaboo Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 2,094 |
Jan 29, 2009 08:15 am
Dejaboo wrote:
I got to CVS last night! They had one box (that was good) That was open! But everything seemd to be in there. dh took pictures...Hope they look ok- havent looked yet. And I started my Silicone sheets last night. Will be very interesting to see what happens. I hope I can post before & really good after pictures! Thanks Car for telling me about the CVS ones & Amy for sending me the Picture- Made it very easy to find them. Some questions...Why do you think they tell you to wash them everyday? ...To use them up faster? :o If we have a healed Scar...Does it matter if they arent washed everyday? And they tell you to wash them...But dont recommend that you were them in the shower... Pam Dx 3/7/2008,DCIS, IDC-1.2mm, Stage I, Grade 1, 0/1 nodes, ER+/PR-,HER2+,Lump/SNB-4/1/08, Bilat 5/22/08, EX 9/22/08, PFO & ASA heart Closure 12-29-08, 2nd EX-July 09-to fix PS Mess Up!
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abinneb Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 549 |
Jan 29, 2009 08:57 am
abinneb wrote:
Hey Pam! Glad you found them! I wondered about that too in washing them - wash them but don't shower in them?? Well, I did shower in them sometimes by accident (not very awake in the morning!) and ended up washing them that way. Maybe it is to wash off any lint and stuff from the sticky side? Hmmmm not sure.... Saw my PS yesterday for a recheck. He was very pleased with my incisions and symmetry and mobility of the implant. Always a relief to hear that everything is well. Amy bilat mast-L prophy 6/24/08 Exch 9/29/08
Dx 5/12/2008, DCIS, , Stage 0, Grade 3, 0/3 nodes, ER+/PR+ |
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car Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 484 |
Jan 29, 2009 12:31 pm
car wrote:
I'm not sure about the washing issue, either. I do sort of "dust" the sticky side w/a wet cloth before replacing them. I will say that I'm wearing them almost 24/7 since they're fairly comfortable. I take them off before cardio (forgot once, and they were so wet I had to throw them away) and the shower. I let them firm up in the fridge for about an hour, and put them back on again. I agree that the instructions don't make sense, and my PS said nothing about washing, so I just clean up the side that goes next to the skin. I found they can last maybe 4 days if you use paper surgical tape, too. Unilateral mx 1/17/07, exchange 6/4/07, DIEP 4/25/08
Dx 8/8/2006, DCIS, 3cm, Stage 0, Grade 2, 0/4 nodes, ER+/PR+ |
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