Hi,
I was just diagnosed this past march. I had a unilat skin sparing mastectomy with tissue expander, but am now considering having it removed instead of having reconstruction. Implants freak me out! But I am too tiny to have tissue flap surgery. Has anyone out there my age (34) decided NOT to have reconstruction? I feel like I'm a lone ship on this one. ANy advice?
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Fidelia Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 307 |
Nov 17, 2009 08:41 pm
Fidelia wrote:
hi johnson7599 I was 40 when I had a mastectomy and went back later than same year and had the other breast removed to reduce risk - well - THAT didn't work - but I DID get 'evened up' and while at the time I was too small to have a flap recon (subsequent treatment and donuts have fixed that!!) I have managed for 13 years - just wearing padded bras for work and nothing at home - I am married and it has been much harder on my husband than on me - oddly - he was such a breast man! but there is so much more to life than mammary glands. In the early days - before I became heavier - I just looked fine - slim and flat chested - now I am a little out of proportion - but when I wear the old padded bra - no -one can tell and frankly - now that I am almost 53 - who cares anyway??? 34 is so very young - but I was a very young 40 and I didn't consider reconstruction for a minute - I was too scared of the surgery and also so worried that it would add to the risk of recurrence - which it wouldn't and I got the recurrence anyway....just bad luck...so my flat chest became and remains the least of my concerns. Don't worry that you need to decide straight away - reconstruction can be done later - if you decide you want it - you will know when you are ready and what you really need - in the mean time - I highly recommend the everyday padded bra - I still get mine from K Mart :) Fidelia |
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johnson7599
Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 32 |
Nov 17, 2009 10:10 pm
johnson7599 wrote:
Thanks Fidelia! You are right...34 is so very young to have to make this choice. Part of me is afraid that I will end up regretting not having the reconstruction. For one, i have 3 kids ages 3,5, and 8. THe older two swim competetively in the summer and i am constantly in the water with them. No reconstruction poses issues with this, as I am a small person and cannot wear womens sizes. I have to wear juniors bathing suits which tend to be much more revealing. So it would be annoying and somewhat problemztic. On a more personal note, intimacy wise....well it's got to be hard I imagine. I was already self concious before cancer, now it might be worse. You said your husband had more issues than you did with this. How did he handle it? That's a BIG concern for me since I am so young. If I was in my 50's, my attitude would most definately be the same as yours...but I'm not. It's so hard to know how you are going to feel until it happens. My husband, is of course, very supportive in that he says he wants me to do what I am most comfortable with. Yet, I'm sure it will affect him more than he lets on. On the other hand, having reconstruction at 34 would also require that I have the implants replaced SEVERAL times in my lifetime since I am young and they only last 10 to 15 years. This is not that appealing to me, but then again neither was a mastectomy, but I didn't have a choice on that one. Any more thoughts? |
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apple Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,891 |
Nov 17, 2009 10:14 pm
apple wrote:
i just mentioned in another thread that i was totally comfortable with my one missing boob. i go braless and my one does show, but i just don't care. i can always were a fake one for 'going out'. it was a little hard on my husband at first. he got used to it (and of course loves me for me not my body.. heh) Diagnosis: 5/10/2008, IDC, 5cm, Stage IIIc, Grade 3, 4/9 nodes, ER+ |
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still-me Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 25 |
Nov 17, 2009 10:47 pm
still-me wrote:
I am 43 and was diagnosed in June of this year. I have had both breasts removed and did not consider reconstruction at all. This is me. And it was more important for me to have several years of staying cancer free before I put my body through anything else. I am not married so I don't have a husband to think about, but the truth is....this is your body and your cancer and whatever you choose to do should be what you feel is best for you. You are the one who has to wear them the rest of your life. It is your body. Do what is best for you. What makes you feel good about yourself...because in the end that is what is truly important. Do some research on the type you would have to get. How many more scars will you have to get to get the tissue for them? Do you want a nipple? Where will they get tissue. There are so many things to consider. I pray for peace in your decision. Diagnosis: 5/21/2009, IDC, 2cm, Stage II, Grade 2, 0/3 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- |
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baywatcher Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 438 |
Nov 17, 2009 10:55 pm
baywatcher wrote:
Johnson- I am 54 so I have 20 years on you. I did not do recon. I don't like any of the choices. That being said, I will tell you that I do suffer from depression which is directly related to my mastectomies. I was not prepared for how significantly this has affected me. It is something that you might want to think about before you explant. Also, if you explant you might not have a flat chest due to your skin being stretched or if you had a skin sparing procedure. I have also heard that sometimes the chest is concave after removing implants. This is not to discourage you in the least, just giving you my thoughts. Best of luck to you whatever you decide. |
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wabiwoman Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 232 |
Nov 19, 2009 09:28 pm
wabiwoman wrote:
Hi, I DID decide on reconstruction, I'm in it right now. It has been rough, but for me I think I always would have thought I should have tried... I have had radiation, so ultiimately it may not work, and I'm at peace with that, again, as long as I know I gave it a go. You really have to think about what is best for you. For varying opinions, go both on the Exchange City thread and the Alternatives to Reconstructiion thread - you'll probably get a sense of what you gravitate to... Best of luck, dear sister, Geena "There is a crack, a crack in everything. That is how the light gets in." - Leonard Cohen
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Erica Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,900 |
Nov 19, 2009 11:27 pm, edited Nov 19, 2009 11:28 PM
by Erica
Erica wrote:
You might find a couple of the personal stories on my non-profit website, BreastFree.org, interesting. Carol's Story is by a woman who had just turned 40 when she was diagnosed (with very young kids) and who chose not to reconstruct. The other story that might be helpful is Susan's Story. Susan tried implant reconstruction but had a lot of problems and decided to remove the implant. She's very positive about her decision. I was much older than you (57) at the time of my bilateral mastectomy. I honestly don't know how I would have felt if I were your age with young children. I felt the same way you describe about implants--they kind of freaked me out. I am small like you, so even with a flat chest, I'm pretty in proportion. I do wear breast forms and find them very comfortable. (Fidelia, if you read this, what is the exact name of the padded bra you use? I've tried a couple on, but they haven't worked for me.) Regarding Baywatcher's concern that the tissue expander could have caused concavity (from pressure on the ribs), hopefully if you did decide to remove the TE, it will have been too soon to cause such a long-lasting effect. It's a tough decision. Best of luck in figuring out what to do. Barbara http://breastfree.org
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iamc Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 114 |
Nov 20, 2009 12:48 pm
iamc wrote:
I lived almost ten years without reconstruction. I was diagnosed two weeks after I turned 37 years old (and also six weeks pregnant at the time) I felt strongly about not reconstructing. I didn't do anything "bad" that required hiding. So I spent nine and a half years being flat chested, and ok with it. I wore no prosthesis. I was very casual about the whole process and I have two daughters. Teaching them that not having breasts is just the way it was because of my cancer. In that process they learned true acceptance and not put a lot of importance on the breast....even though society dictates otherwise. I have considered myself the poster child for flat chest rights and have no regrets. So why did I have flap reconstruction seven weeks ago? Because it felt right. I didn't have to deal with implants (I didn't want anything foreign in my body) It had not crossed my mind to even consider reconstruction even as recently as a year ago. I felt strong and empowered to live my life freely, and natural. I have no regrets. I think it was absolutely the right thing to do. And now, at age 46, I've made a decision that works for me in this stage of my life. I can't explain it other than to say that I was doing some reading, God led me to the NOLA site, and as I learned about the option, I felt like it was something I wanted to do. Decide what's best for you...and don't let society define that for you. You'll never regret something that felt right for YOU, not something "expected" or "demanded" of you. Carolynn :) Diagnosis: 2000, IDC, 3cm, Stage IIb, Grade 3, 0/7 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2- |
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smithlme Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,102 |
Nov 20, 2009 01:05 pm
smithlme wrote:
I was 47 when I was diagnosed the first time in March of 2007. I had a skin sparing mastectomy because I wanted to have TRAM recon after I ended chemo. In January of 2008 I had the TRAM but it failed. The flap had to be removed and the muscle amputated. Two months later I went in for my first follow up mammogram, which showed something suspicious. After a biopsy I was diagnosed with a new primary. The surgeon did another skin sparing mastectomy because I wasn't sure what I wanted, or what choices I had, at that time. Two months after my second mastectomy I had genetic testing and I found out I am BRCA 2+. With the recommendation of my geneticist I had a hysterectomy w/BSO to hopefully avoid ovarian cancer. In 15 months I had 5 surgeries. At that point I decided I was done. My body and spirit were whipped and I was exhausted. 5 weeks ago I had scar revision surgery to fix the mess on my chest and abdomen. My chest is flat and my stomach is no longer shaped like an alien with dog ears! I never thought I'd be so thrilled to be flat. I chose not to have implants because if I were to have a recurrence or new primary, I feel I wouldn't be able to detect it until it was quite advanced. I'm able to feel to my ribs, so if anything's there, I'm hoping I'll find it early. I donated my breast forms and mastectomy bras to our local cancer resource center. I find them heavy, hot and not ME. Decide what's best for you, and you alone. You're the one that is living in your body. I didn't "want back" what cancer took away because that person and that body are long gone. Linda Dx 3/31/08, DCIS, ER+/PR- BRCA2+...Life is a series of every day miracles...
Diagnosis: 3/28/2007, IDC, 2cm, Stage II, Grade 3, 0/9 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2- |
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yosemite Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 10 |
Nov 20, 2009 11:21 pm
yosemite wrote:
I am 64 and have had 3 recontruction with tissue expanders. The last one the implant partially migrated to above the muscle. I was in a job situation that I couldn't take time off. By the time I got approval and the original surgeon did the redo, he concluded that there was late affect from radiaton to that breast. I now know about concavity, where your implant puts pressure on your rib cage and ,for me, that meant pulling by shoulder forward and the spots for the radiation, I just found out yesterday, are out of alignment. It has affected my breathing at night. I often wake up with rapid respireatons altho it resolves quickly it has become fixed in mind that this is getting progressively worse. So I am trying a free flap procedure to use only my own tissue from my thigh next month. It is expensive because it is microsurgery. It is scheduled to take 7 hours of surgery and 7 days in the hospital. Without it there will be virtually no "fat padding"between the skin and the rib cage when the breast capsule is removed. It is scary. I have found no one on this web site having had the procedure. I am long waisted, small breasted to begin with, so there are fewer options available to me using my own tissue. I would advise taking your time to consider your options and get information from leading institutions. Some plastic surgeons are not up to date. I think more of us should consider the microsurgery options for healthier breast reconstructions options. Replacing implants has been traumatic and embarrassing for me each time. Good luck. blue flower
Diagnosis: 1994, DCIS, 1cm, Grade 1, ER-/PR- |
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cheers247 Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 256 |
Nov 20, 2009 11:30 pm
cheers247 wrote:
Johnson, I am also 34, I had a bilat last month, I have no plans for recon at this time. I can't imagine having another surgery, it's been really hard. I am glad I don't have to decide right now though, I can always do it later if I decide to. I still have a lot of treatment ahead of me, so I may decide to do it in the future, I just don't know yet. Feel free to PM me if you want to. Much Love, Jessica Jessica, Age 34; 5 mos chemo, Bilat, ALND & Total Hysterectomy 10/09. 35 Rads, Zometa, Herceptin, Femara & Tumor Vaccine Clinical Trial. ~
Diagnosis: 4/17/2009, IBC, 2cm, Stage IIIc, Grade 3, 2/21 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2+ |
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johnson7599
Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 32 |
Nov 22, 2009 05:10 pm
johnson7599 wrote:
Thanks for all the replys. This is my first post so it is very refreshing to find such a supportive community that is willing to share their experiences so freely. Deciding to reconstruct or not to is such a hard choice for me, partly because I just don't know how I'm going to feel with either outcome once its finished. At my age, confidence and intimacy are such big factors. It is awesome to see so many of you that are so completely confident in yourselves even though you chose no reconstruction. If I do choose not to have reconstruction, I don't know that I will be that confident. Yet living with imperfect reconstruction could be just as hard. I say imperfect becuase I am not willing to go with silicone implants(if I have the surgery) and saline are by no means going to achieve an optimal result in me because I am so small. How do you choose between one crazy looking chest or another? |
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FACECRAFTER
Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 702 |
Nov 22, 2009 05:32 pm, edited Nov 22, 2009 05:33 PM
by FACECRAFTER
FACECRAFTER wrote:
Johnson: Just making sure you have your facts straight. I am in no way making a decision for you. I believe we all make our best decisions when we are informed. First, it is EASIER to detect a recurrance with an implant than with any other option, including non-reconstruction. This is because the implant is under the muscle and pushes all the remaining surfaces closer to the surface. So it is out there. Second, why do you think you'll have a strange looking breast? If it is saline you are concerned about, why not choose silicone? The new silicone is congealed, meaning it has no chance of coming out of the implant and into your tissue. It is sort of like a jelly bean. You can cut it in half and it still stays put. It is not liquid and feels very real. Is it your surgeon that concerns you? Perhaps another surgeon may have a better rapport with you, answer your questions, and so on. If you choose to continue with Reconstruction, you can be symmetrical, and beautiful again. Don't think you can't. On Exchange City, Sandy had a unilateral construction, and she will gladly share her experiences with you. Finally, autologous tissue reconstruction is paerhaps the best possibility, A lattisimus Dorsi flap, or a tram flap, or DIEP surgery, are among the various options. Talk to someone who DOES these, and see what is possible for you. Again, I am not deciding for you, only informing you, as you seems to be less than fully knowledgeable about your choices. Good luck, JUDY JUDY
Diagnosis: 8/18/2008, IDC, 2cm, Stage II, Grade 3, 5/20 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2- |
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johnson7599
Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 32 |
Nov 22, 2009 06:05 pm
johnson7599 wrote:
Facecrafter, I totally realize that no one on this site is TELLING me what to do and I DO greatly appreciate everyones opinion. That is why I am even posting. You guys have been through this when everyone else around me hasn't. I would rather someone tell me something that I totally do or do not agree with, than to have someone tell a rosy feel good answer. The reason I say I don't feel I would get a good result with saline is than I am 4'11" and 100 lbs. I have a very small frame. So small, in fact, that they don't even make a tissue expander small enough for my chest wall (though they do make implants small enough). I have very very little breast tissue on the non cancer side. So little that if I didn't have reconstruction and i didn't have a bra on, one would not be able to tell which side was the mastectomy side (with clothing on of course). That being said, my PS has warned me that there will probably be rippling of the implant and that saline will not look as natural. He does do flap procedures, but as I am so thin, I am not a candidate for those. Silicone is the logical choice for these problems, but I just don't feel like the science is there to back up the safety. There have been valid and fairly recent studies that report that women with silicone implants have a 2-3 times greater risk of lung cancer and brain cancer. Since my grandfather had brain cancer and almost every single one of his siblings had lung cancer (along with all of my grandmothers siblings dying of lung or colon cancer) I feeling like using silicone is just increasing my chances there. I could be totally wrong, but mentally I think that would always be in the back of my mind. Ya know. Anyway, that's just some of my thoughts. What's your take on it? Thanks, Denise |
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weety911 Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 452 |
Nov 22, 2009 06:33 pm
weety911 wrote:
Hi Johnson, I am pretty much in the same boat as you. I'm 5'2" and just barely over 100 pounds. I had a mastectomy on the one side only, and have not really even started considering reconstruction yet. My "good" breast is barely an A cup, so just like you, even if I went braless, an outsider would barely be able to tell (the nipple would be the only clue!) I have just been wearing my regular bras "empty" on the one side, and really, in clothes, no one can tell. The only thing that bothers me is that the bra cup sometimes rides up a little on the boobless side because there isn't anything to keep it in place and shows a bit when I wear a lower cut shirt. But really, it hasn't been too bad. I don't know if it is worth it to get reconstruction. I am going to keep following this thread. Maybe it will change my mind. Diagnosis: 7/17/2009, IDC, <1cm, Grade 3, 0/1 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2+ |
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FACECRAFTER
Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 702 |
Nov 22, 2009 11:30 pm
FACECRAFTER wrote:
Silicone is the logical choice for these problems, but I just don't feel like the science is there to back up the safety. There have been valid and fairly recent studies that report that women with silicone implants have a 2-3 times greater risk of lung cancer and brain cancer. Where are the studies? I would love to see them. The outside of a saline implant is silicone, the same as a silicone implant, only the fill is different. Here is a YOu Tube video that shows the two implants. : JUDY JUDY
Diagnosis: 8/18/2008, IDC, 2cm, Stage II, Grade 3, 5/20 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2- |
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Renata Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 119 |
Nov 23, 2009 04:43 am
Renata wrote:
I'm petite too: 5 ¼ feet - 94 pounds, and just had the surgery to exchange the expander for a silicon implant in my left side with a very slight augmentation in my right breast. The result is very nice (and I'm highly critic) and it is balanced and proportioned with my height and weight. Of course it's a personal decision and you have time, I had reconstruction a year after the mastectomy...Now, could you please, share those studies about implants increasing the risk of lung and brain cancer? I'm freaking out... Diagnosis: 4/10/2008, IDC, 2cm, Stage I, Grade 1, 0/1 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- |
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johnson7599
Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 32 |
Nov 23, 2009 09:29 am
johnson7599 wrote:
These studies were conducted by the National Cancer Institute. You can find them on their website, NCI.org. There has been one other study that said that the propensity for brain cancer found in the NCI studies was not statistically significant, but the lung cancer was still found to be the same. I found that study in an article in the Annals of Plastic Surgery. Anyway, for me even if these numbers were found out later to be not all that conclusive, I think I would still be bothered by them. With such a strong history of Cancer coming from my father's side of the family even a remote chance (statistically significant or not) is too much for me. That may seem silly, but If you've ever watched someone die of a brain tumor you probably would feel the same way. I know the shell of an implant is silicone regardless of the fill, but completely solid silicone has been used in medical devices and studied for many more years. It has a different chemical make-up also. Renata, sorry to freak you out and thanks for sharing your experience. Realize, that I am probably letting this bother me more than it should, but it is better to think about it first right? |
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Erica Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,900 |
Nov 23, 2009 10:34 am
Erica wrote:
While it is true that placing an implant under the muscle (which is almost always done during implant reconstruction) will keep the muscle just under the skin, which means a recurrence on the chest wall would potentially be palpable, I have never heard that it's actually easier to detect a recurrence after implant reconstruction than after no reconstruction, as Judy (Facecrafter) asserts. With no reconstruction, all of the muscles and ribs are easily palpated. I'd love to know what studies have demonstrated the superiority of implant reconstruction for detecting recurrence. I was told by my breast surgeon that it's easiest to find a recurrence after a mastectomy with no reconstruction. I'm not saying that implant reconstruction will greatly impede detection of a recurrence, but I do want to make sure we get the correct information out there. http://breastfree.org
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FACECRAFTER
Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 702 |
Nov 23, 2009 09:49 pm
FACECRAFTER wrote:
This is what I was told by my breast surgeon...We were not talking about a cancer in the chest wall.. We were talking about, (and i was talking about) a cancer that is either in the muscle or any tissue that's left in the breast..It was the implants getting in the way of finding a recurrence that I was referring to. It is incorrect to think they get in the way of detection, as many women do. I just didn't want someone thinking that an implant would make it harder to find a recurrence.. sorry if I confused. JUDY JUDY
Diagnosis: 8/18/2008, IDC, 2cm, Stage II, Grade 3, 5/20 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2- |
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Erica Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,900 |
Nov 24, 2009 08:47 am, edited Nov 24, 2009 08:50 AM
by Erica
Erica wrote:
Hi Judy, Not to be too pedantic, but the chest wall includes the muscles. So we're both talking about the same thing. When there's a recurrence in the chest wall, that generally means the cancer has spread to the muscle behind the breast (if you've had a mastectomy, that would mean the muscle that used to be behind the breast). I agree with you that with both implants and no reconstruction, that muscle is easy to examine as it's just under the skin. Also, any remaining breast tissue would be right under the skin in front of the muscle, so any recurrence there would be easy to detect, too. To be clear, concerns about recurrence would not have stopped me from having implant reconstruction if I had wanted it, even though my cancer was very close to my pectoral muscle. I did have some concern about putting a tissue flap in front of the muscle. But with MRIs, the area can still be monitored. http://breastfree.org
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okiegal Joined: May 2009 Posts: 241 |
Nov 24, 2009 09:30 am, edited Nov 24, 2009 09:31 AM
by okiegal
okiegal wrote:
Hi all, No need for most of us to get worried. The study is from the National Cancer Institute website, : "www.cancer.gov". This study is for women who have had breast augmentation (see the reference at the end of the article.) From the National Cancer Institute: http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/factsheet/risk/breast-implant-study * Women with implants were not at increased risk for most cancers with the exception of respiratory and brain cancers. The significance of the increased risks is not clear. NCI researchers did not find increased risks for cancers of the stomach, large intestine, cervix, uterus, ovary, bladder or thyroid. Likewise, neither connective tissue nor immune system cancers such as soft tissue sarcomas, lymphoma, and multiple myeloma, developed at higher rates. These cancers were previously linked to implants in smaller studies. The cancer rates for brain and respiratory cancers, however, were two to three times greater in the implant patients compared to other plastic surgery patients; only the rates of respiratory cancers reached statistical significance. The significance of the findings is not clear. It is possible that the higher risks observed for respiratory and brain cancers are not related to exposure to silicone, but are due to either chance findings or to factors common to women who choose to have implants. Reference: Brinton LA, Lubin JH, Burich MC, et al. Cancer Risk at Sites Other than Breast Following Augmentation Mammoplasty. Annals of Epidemiology May 2001;11(4):248-256. Diagnosis: 4/4/2009, DCIS, Stage 0, 0/1 nodes, ER+/PR+ |
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johnson7599
Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 32 |
Nov 24, 2009 09:46 am
johnson7599 wrote:
Thanks for pointing out the study okiegal. I left the wrong link info thanks to my tamoxifen brain. Anyhow, seeing as how you said MOST of us don't have to worry about this study, what do you think about me? I know you are not a doc. Just interested in another person's opinion since my family does have a strong history of lung and brain cancer. If that were your situation, how would you feel about implants? |
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okiegal Joined: May 2009 Posts: 241 |
Nov 24, 2009 11:18 am
okiegal wrote:
Your welcome! I think it's interesting that the research states that the significance of the findings is not clear and ends with "but". I think they are wondering if women who choose breast augmentation smoke, drink or take drugs more on average than non-augmentation women. Or, do they have other lifestyle or risk factors? This would require more analysis of their information or more research into those questions. Because this study excluded (I assume) women with breast cancer, it might be reasonable to wonder if women who are treated for some breast cancers actually are at lower risk for the aforementioned cancers as a result of treatment. So many questions! How can we know? It's only one study. Do your family memebers have other risk factors for lung cancer? Do you? I think, if this is a concern, you should thouroughly research it, discuss it with your doctors, etc. Perhaps breast implants don't pose a greater risk for you? Scientific writing can be confusing and I think there is a tendency for us to read information online and not understand the actual risk for us. I also think there's a lot of unwarrented hysteria about implants because of general misinformation. I have silicone (Allergan Natrelle) implants and don't worry about any additional cancer risks, but that's just me. Again, I would discuss your concerns and risks with your doctors. Hope my ramblings are helpful! Diagnosis: 4/4/2009, DCIS, Stage 0, 0/1 nodes, ER+/PR+ |
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johnson7599
Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 32 |
Nov 24, 2009 01:16 pm
johnson7599 wrote:
Thanks again okiegal for your input. You are right. It is frustrating when scientific evidence cannot give us a specific answer. I personally do not smoke or do anything else that would put me at higher risk for lung cancer. I do live in an area where there are alot of petrochemical refineries that I'm sure pose an increased environmental risk for anyone living here. Genetically speaking, there is a strong chance that I am more prone to cancer. EVERYONE, I mean EVERYONE on my father's side of the family has died of cancer (that is everyone on his mother and fathers side). So, of course, that is why the study concerned me. Sure we don't know the specifics of their findings, but do I want to possibly put myself at a higher risk than I possibly already am? I know too, that this is all very individual, like you said. I have discussed it with my doctors. They were completely unaware of this study. They, of course, are very supportive of whatever choice I do make. My doctor is very careful to not make statements in absolutes because he does not want me to feel swayed into doing something that I don't agree with. This is good in one sense, not in another. His P.A. (she is a little more opinionated) told me she felt like if it were her, she probably would not get implants for this reason. Mainly for peace of mind issues. She, however, is not married so not having reconstruction is not as much of an issue for her in that sense. And you are right, there probably is alot of unwarrented hysteria concerning implants. The thing that keeps popping up in my mind I guess is that how many times has the FDA approved something only to turn around 5-10 years later and say.."OH, this stuff is bad for you and its causing all kinds of life threatening issues" Know what I mean? Wow, so much to think about! And yes your ramblings were helpful. Please, ramble on! |
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okiegal Joined: May 2009 Posts: 241 |
Nov 24, 2009 01:51 pm
okiegal wrote:
One more ramble... It's my understanding that the "cohesive gel" implants were widely studied and have been in use in Europe for quite some time. There have also been fairly long studies done here in the US. I don't know the numbers, but I would think any significant problems would be showing themselves by now. You sound like you are in a unique group. I can understand your concern! None of us can predict the future. We can only assess our options and risks and then make a decision. Like someone mentioned above. There's no hurry. You can always decide to do something later. I was a full "B" before my MX and I'm happy to have reconstructed breasts. That being said, implants do have their issues. I'm not completely comfortable with them yet and somedays think I should never have done anything. But mostly, I'm pleased to have had reconstuction. Finally, I found a great set of pictures on Flicker (search Google images "after mastectomy topless beach") before my MX. They are of a woman who had "opted out" (for now). She looked so happy and was having fun going topless at the beach! There's something to be said for that! Diagnosis: 4/4/2009, DCIS, Stage 0, 0/1 nodes, ER+/PR+ |
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johnson7599
Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 32 |
Nov 24, 2009 02:15 pm
johnson7599 wrote:
Yes, there is something to be said for that! Amazingly inspiring that she could be so brave and comfortable doing that! I couldn't have done it even with boobs! As far as the studies go...The FDA has only studied cohesives for about 4 years now. There have been other longer studies I'm sure, but accessing that info is not something I've been able to do. I guess the hardest part of this is not knowing! I don't know how I'll feel without implants and yet I'm not sure I'll be happy with them. How does one figure this out?! |
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iamc Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 114 |
Nov 30, 2009 09:52 am
iamc wrote:
"I guess the hardest part of this is not knowing! I don't know how I'll feel without implants and yet I'm not sure I'll be happy with them. How does one figure this out?!" In that one sentence, and this is only my opinion, it sounds like you need to delay reconstruction. Then you can answer part of your question....how will I feel without implants? I waited nine years for reconstruction, and there is no need to hasten a decision. (I didn't have skin sparing mastectomies and it didn't really change my outcome for reconstruction to the degree that I have any regrets or concerns) Thankfully, there is no time limit or ticking clock for reconstruction. That gives you the advantage of experiencing the first scenario, and giving yourself time to see how you DO feel without breasts. Regarding your risks with implants....regardless of science, the statistics, etc YOU have to decide what is right, not science. (I say this only because, in this instance, you are not making a decision that would be medically unsound. Not having reconstruction is not risking your health) You believe you have a risk if you get implants considering your family history. Don't underestimate the emotions involved here. If you get the implants, will you live a life of fear? If you get the implants and you are diagnosed (God forbid) will you blame yourself and the implants, even if "science" says there was no correlation, you would have had the diagnosis regardless? Just some food for thought...I believe the emotions have a lot to do with our physical well being. Hope this helps! Carolynn Diagnosis: 2000, IDC, 3cm, Stage IIb, Grade 3, 0/7 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2- |
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johnson7599
Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 32 |
Nov 30, 2009 12:32 pm
johnson7599 wrote:
Thanks Carolynn. I think your probably right. There is no rush. The main thing is that I already have the tissue expander and have gone through the expansions. At the time of my MX everything happened so quickly, I don't know that I really even considered not having reconstruction. Only after all my expansions was I given info on implants and this is when I started to question what I really wanted to do. Kinda backwards...yes. However, before this point I think I was so immersed in the whole BC thing that I just didn't have time to think about anything else thoroughly. I also didn't know all the details that I now know about implants. I guess my biggest struggle is that if I knew that the implants (saline cause i know i'm not comfortable with silicone) were going to be tolerable--not so very uncomfortable like this tissue expander which keeps me up alot at night--I might go ahead with the implants since I've already come this far. No one seems to be able to answer that question. My doc says it could very well be a problem, but there is no sure fire way to tell. I need definitive answers and since I can't get them maybe explanting is the right thing. At least I could sleep at night. Like you said emotions do have alot to do with physical well bding and when I don't get my sleep, my emotions are NOT well. Know what I mean? |
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marie317 Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 159 |
Nov 30, 2009 12:49 pm
marie317 wrote:
I just had my expander removed last week due to some complications that had developed (I think they filled me too much and too soon after one of my chemo treatments). I was glad to have it removed because the longer it was in there, the more I regretted my decision to have reconstruction. It had been told to me that the implants are not a permanent solution. Apparently, they only last for 15 to 20 years and then have to be replaced. I'm not fond of having surgeries, so I was not liking the idea that I'd have to go in for a replacement. I'm about 10 years older than you, so that would mean I'd be in my late fifties or early sixties having surgery again for implants. Take your time in your decision and do as much research as possible. THE DEFINITION OF INSANITY IS DOING THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AND EXPECTING DIFFERENT RESULTS - BENJAMIN FRANKLIN
Diagnosis: 6/2/2009, IDC, 1cm, Stage I, Grade 2, 0/3 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- |
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