My ten year old daughter was just diagnosed yesterday (confirmed today) with breast cancer. I have been searching for similar cases but have found nothing. My wife and I have no idea what type, stage, etc... We took her in to have a lump removed that was thought to be completely routine, but the surgeon found a solid mass that appeared to be a tumor behind the suspected area. We were assured that it was probably nothing to worry about but a sample would be sent to pathology. Went to a follow up visit 6 days later (yesterday) and the preliminary results were not good. Got a call today to confirm our worst thoughts. Is there anybody that has heard of such a young girl being diagnosed with breast cancer? We are in a holding pattern now and don't know what to do.
***UPDATE***
We just got a copy of the pathology report yesterday and I will read the diagnosis word for word. DIAGNOSIS: Infiltrating ductal carcinoma with focal solid papillary growth pattern and secretory feautures, grade II (moderately differentiated). The tumor extends to the inked surgical margins over a broad front. Approximately 2 cm in aggregate dimension portions of benign prepubertal mammary ductal parenchyma. No ductal carcinoma in situ component identified. Changes highly suspicious for large vessel invasion by tumor but no angiolymphatic space permeation by tumor identified. AJCC stage grouping: T2, NX, MX; stage IIA This was also listed in the microscopic description: This material was submitted for breast prognostic studies with the following results: Estrogen receptor negative, progesterone receptor negative, Her2/neu zero (not expressed) and Ki67 rate of 3% in most of the fields examined. Can someone tell me that my 10 year old daughter does not have breast cancer? We have not told her yet, but know we will as she will be seeing an oncologist within the next day or two.
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idaho Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 939 |
Apr 14, 2009 08:18 pm
idaho wrote:
Oh my heart hurts for you and your family. Did they take all of the lump out? You probably need to get an oncologist to help you with the decisions that need to be made. I have never heard of such a young girl getting breast cancer. Ask for a copy of the pathology report so you can post the stage and type and do some research. Peace to you, Tami Dx 2/1/2009, IDC, 1cm, Stage I, Grade 2, 0/1 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- |
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cjsocal Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 6 |
Apr 14, 2009 08:26 pm
cjsocal wrote:
The surgeon said he left about 5% of the mass in because it was attached to breast tissue. I feel like an idiot because we know nothing. we are goin to ask for a copy of the pathology report tomorrow. We are supposed to get a call to meet with an Oncologist some time next week at Childrens hospital in Los Angeles. |
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jillyG Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 172 |
Apr 14, 2009 08:27 pm
jillyG wrote:
I am so sorry, this must be incredibly hard for all of you. I thought I was young to get breast cancer at 33 and my oncologist told me his youngest patient was 18. So, I've heard of teens getting it, but not a pre-teen. Your daughter will have more tests to determine whether the cancer has spread to the lymph nodes and once they have all the information, you will learn the "stage". It is very overwhelming to receive this news and everything may seem like it's happening at a snail's pace, but once you get all the facts, you'll be more prepared to do whatever needs to be done to beat this disease. My heart goes out to your family. Left Mastectomy Nov 20/08, chemo Jan 5/09 to March 16/09
Dx 11/3/2008, IDC, 1cm, Stage I, Grade 3, 0/2 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2- |
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prettyinpin
Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 5,084 |
Apr 14, 2009 08:56 pm
prettyinpink100 wrote:
I have never heard of bc hitting someone so young. My heart goes out to you and your family. My own daughter had cancer at 14 so I have travelled the road you are now on. My advice to you is to be your daughter's advocate and learn how to navigate the medical system. And remember, the squeaky wheel gets the grease. Please feel free to PM me if you would like to talk. Take Care. PIP
Dx 2/1/2007, IDC, , Stage IIIb, Grade 2, 9/16 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- |
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lexislove Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,819 |
Apr 14, 2009 09:01 pm
lexislove wrote:
I am so..so sorry. I don't even know what else to say. I pray for your little girl. I have never heard of this. Being diagnosed at 30 was hard..I can't imagine 10. you are in my thoughts and prayers. Courage doesn't always roar. Sometimes courage is the quiet voice at the end of the day saying, "I will try again tomorrow." ~~~Mary Ann Radmacher
Dx 9/14/2007, IDC, 6cm+, Stage IIb, Grade 3, 0/6 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2+ |
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mikita5 Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 205 |
Apr 14, 2009 09:15 pm
mikita5 wrote:
I've never heard of a child so young having bc. You will be in my prayers and thoughts. Please let us know how this all unfolds. God bless you all. If God leads you TO it, he'll lead you THRU it!
Dx 1/2/2008, DCIS, 1cm, Stage 0, Grade 3, 0/1 nodes, ER+ |
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Emily2008 Joined: May 2008 Posts: 401 |
Apr 14, 2009 09:15 pm
Emily2008 wrote:
This may be a stupid question, but are the docs certain it's actually breast cancer? In other words, do they know that it originated in the breast, or is it possible the primary location is somewhere else, and it traveled to the breast? I ask b/c breast cancer is so heavily linked to estrogen production, and a child of 10 just isn't producing that much of it. Even if she's begun menstruation, how much hormone production could she possibly have? I'm so very, very sorry for this news. I pray all your questions get answered and that your family sails through whatever faces you. BRCA 2 pos.
Dx 5/14/2008, IDC, , Stage I, Grade 1, 0/5 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- |
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portiasprou
Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 2,032 |
Apr 14, 2009 09:28 pm
portiasproudmom wrote:
I'm completely at a loss for words....except to say how sorry I am for you and your dear daughter. I've personally never heard of a child so young being diagnosed with bc. I'll be praying for your family. Hugs, Karen Dx 8/27/2007, IDC, 1cm, Stage I, Grade 3, 0/3 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- |
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cjsocal Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 6 |
Apr 14, 2009 09:29 pm
cjsocal wrote:
She has not started menstruating yet. When we spoke with the surgeon he stated he had never seen anything like this in his 37 years of practice. We obviously have not done any testing as we just found out yesterday but the surgeon used the words "breast cancer". He also stated that there are sometime tumors in the chest area that may be near the breast, but this is not the case. My wife and I have been told that there will be a lot of doctors involved in this as it is so uncommon. |
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lexislove Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,819 |
Apr 14, 2009 09:31 pm
lexislove wrote:
Emily you have a point... cjsocal, are the doctors sure it IS breast cancer and not Hodgkins or another child cancer? I am not doubting you by all means...I just can't get my head around the idea of...10! I think of my 3 year old daughter and thats only 7 years away. Courage doesn't always roar. Sometimes courage is the quiet voice at the end of the day saying, "I will try again tomorrow." ~~~Mary Ann Radmacher
Dx 9/14/2007, IDC, 6cm+, Stage IIb, Grade 3, 0/6 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2+ |
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cjsocal Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 6 |
Apr 14, 2009 09:44 pm, edited Apr 14, 2009 09:48 PM
by cjsocal
cjsocal wrote:
We have not been seen by any other doctor besides the surgeon and pediatrician at this point. We were told that the tumor was tested by two different pathologists,both with the same outcome, that being breast cancer. I being her mother, not ever in a million years thinking that this would happen to my baby girl have never done research on breast cancer. I am only 29, and never had a scare myself. Right now we are going off of what we are being told by the surgeon. |
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lexislove Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,819 |
Apr 14, 2009 09:46 pm, edited Apr 14, 2009 09:49 PM
by lexislove
lexislove wrote:
Would you share with us the "name" of the cancer? Is there a history of BC in the family? Also, did your daughter develop breasts early? I'm sorry about the questions you do not have to answer ....I'm just trying to make some sort of sense mom.I'm 2 years older than you and your mind must be racing. Courage doesn't always roar. Sometimes courage is the quiet voice at the end of the day saying, "I will try again tomorrow." ~~~Mary Ann Radmacher
Dx 9/14/2007, IDC, 6cm+, Stage IIb, Grade 3, 0/6 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2+ |
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cjsocal Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 6 |
Apr 14, 2009 09:48 pm
cjsocal wrote:
He stated that she has endocarcenoma. |
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lexislove Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,819 |
Apr 14, 2009 09:55 pm
lexislove wrote:
I typed endocarcenoma in Google, and what came up is Adenocarcenoma. Please come back and keep us updated on your daughter. Courage doesn't always roar. Sometimes courage is the quiet voice at the end of the day saying, "I will try again tomorrow." ~~~Mary Ann Radmacher
Dx 9/14/2007, IDC, 6cm+, Stage IIb, Grade 3, 0/6 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2+ |
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spar2 Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 5,958 |
Apr 14, 2009 10:04 pm
spar2 wrote:
cjsocal, so very sorry this is happening to your family. Surely the oncologist and dr. team will come up with a plan soon. I have never heard of this in a child before either but I know she will be on our prayer list. Please know that we are here and that we care and will help in anyway we can. There are so many special kind women here for encouragement and prayer. Please let us know how your sweet daughter does and what her treatment will be. God bless you and your family. Sherry God is good all the time and all the time God is good
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Towhee Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 621 |
Apr 14, 2009 10:08 pm
Towhee wrote:
How is your daughter handling everything? It must be scary for her to even have a lump removed at age ten. Your family must be spinning. Sending warm, calming, caring thoughts your way. The world is so empty if one thinks only of mountains, rivers and cities; but to know someone who thinks and feels with us, and who, though distant is close to us in spirit, this makes the earth for us an inhabited garden. -Goethe
Dx 6/25/2007, IDC, 2cm, Stage IIb, Grade 2, 1/4 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- |
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kmccraw423 Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,413 |
Apr 14, 2009 10:10 pm
kmccraw423 wrote:
Evidently it is rare but does happen. See http://radiographics.rsnajnls.org/cgi/content/full/20/6/1613 and other sites on breast cancer in adolescents. I am so sorry this is happening to your daughter. Kathleen, Cancer should be a 4 letter word - it is obscene.
Dx 10/3/2008, DCIS, 4cm, 0/2 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- |
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Estepp Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 3,685 |
Apr 14, 2009 10:14 pm
Estepp wrote:
I am so so sorry! This beast needs to be stopped NOW! I am really mad for you.. and hurt for your family. Your daughter is going to be fine. 80% of us do GREAT! I just wonder if she will be Her+... I was told this cancer is environmental.. not hormonal... God Bless your family.. when you get her stats. keep us up.. stay on this site. These beautiful women will see you through and you will learn EVERTHING you want to learn about BC! Laura We are the Ta Ta Sisterhood! Laura
Dx 6/25/2008, IDC, 3cm, Grade 3, 1/7 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2+ |
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AlwaysHope Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 3,562 |
Apr 14, 2009 10:21 pm
AlwaysHope wrote:
Would a triple negative breast cancer be dependent on estrogen production? I'm a triple neg and my bc was not related to estrogen as far as I know. I take no post treatment drugs like Tamoxifen or any of the AI's. So, it could be possible for a young girl who has not started her mensas to develop breast cancer. As long as there is breast tissue, you can develop it. Even in males, since we have seen an increase in male breast cancers as well. Please feel free to correct me if this is not right. I'm not 100% sure. |
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Estepp Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 3,685 |
Apr 14, 2009 10:23 pm
Estepp wrote:
Yes, this is what I was thinking... triple neg.. or Her 2.. are not hormonal.. I figure it to be one or the other... We are the Ta Ta Sisterhood! Laura
Dx 6/25/2008, IDC, 3cm, Grade 3, 1/7 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2+ |
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TexasRose Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 523 |
Apr 14, 2009 10:30 pm
TexasRose wrote:
I am so sorry this is happening to your family. You are all in my prayers. Keep us posted. gentle (((hugs))) Mary~~ Left mastectomy/ no recon, SNB and port placement- 4/3/2009
Dx 3/4/2009, IDC, 2cm, Stage IIa, Grade 3, 0/5 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2- |
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Kaidog Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 181 |
Apr 14, 2009 10:49 pm
Kaidog wrote:
cjsocal, I am heartbroken for you - and I am praying for you and your family. I cannot imagine what you must be going through. Please know that we are all sending you love and support. Laura Mc
Dx 4/10/2009, IDC, Grade 2, ER-/PR-, HER2+ |
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bonnievan Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 15 |
Apr 14, 2009 11:01 pm
bonnievan wrote:
I can't even imagine what you must be going through. This just frustrates me even more knowing that children are getting BC. My thoughts and prayers are with you Bonnie |
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dmayes Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 25 |
Apr 14, 2009 11:56 pm
dmayes wrote:
Oh my gosh!! My thoughts are prayers are with you and your lovely daughter. What a terrible fate to be handed at such an early age - please listen to these ladies and ask lots of questions. I am learning all the BC lingo myself and pray that this may be a mis-diagnosis for you. Let us know how it proceeds. My 9 year old was complaining of a sore `boob` a few months ago. I have been consumed with my new dx - now that I am reading this I am going to check her out tomorrow and maybe get her to see a doc if it is still `sore` for her. I read in some book that some girls do experience lumps as their boobs grow. I am rather large chested and developed very early - so I guessed this might be the case for my girls - but now this has me very stressed. They are asleep right now - but will ask her first thing as to how she feels in the morning. You have made me more aware for my children - so bless you for coming here. D Dx 3/13/2009, IDC, 4cm, Stage II, Grade 3, 0/15 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2- |
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cp418 Joined: May 2006 Posts: 2,401 |
Apr 15, 2009 10:03 am
cp418 wrote:
When I read this post I was floored. My thoughts and prayers to your family for your daughter to have successful treatments and recovery. "Don't let fear of tomorrow rob you of the joy of today."
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livesstrong
Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 2,394 |
Apr 15, 2009 11:37 am
livesstrong wrote:
My heart goes out to you & your DD. My advice to you is - research, research, research - and be the best advocate you can be for your daughter. All the best, Valerie Someday I'll wish upon a star and wake up where the clouds are far behind me.
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Binney4 Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 4,596 |
Apr 15, 2009 11:56 am
Binney4 wrote:
cj, good morning, I'm really sorry you've been handed this diagnosis to deal with, but looking forward with you to good results from treatment. Glad you found us and hope you'll come and post often -- we'd all feel privileged to offer you our support and love as you muddle through along with us. As a mom of kids with serious and complicated medical problems, I wanted to make a couple of practical suggestions. First, go out today and buy a three-ring binder notebook and: a set of dividers for it Designate one divider section for medical records and ask for copies of every single test (including bloodwork) and path report from here on out -- punch holes in them, reinforce the holes on the back of the paper, and stick them in that section. One section will be for insurance. Keep all insurance correspondence in order in that section. Add a few sheets of lined paper to that section to, and every time you talk to your insurance people get the date, time, name and title of the person you talk to, and the "reference number" of your call, then write down everything YOU agreed to do and everything THEY agreed to do for future reference. Another section is for information that you gather from your doctors or off the web, etc. Add some lined paper there as well and take notes at every doctor appointment. Another section is for your daughter's health information to date: allergies, previous surgeries, immunizations, serious illnesses, etc. Also include a page of all the contact information you'll need in order to fill out doctor intake forms: insurance names and addresses, etc. Another section is for the names, addresses and phone numbers of neighbors and friends and relatives who've offer to help. As time allows jot down what they've done, so later you can remember to thank them -- at some point you'll want to do that, but now is not the time to worry about it. They really do feel helpless so they'll welcome your being specific with them about what you need done, whether it's a meal, a trip to the store, or a load of laundry. In the clear plastic zippered pouch keep the pens or pencils and all those little business cards you'll be collecting from doctors, labs and such, so you have all that information handy when you need it. Take this notebook with you to every appointment so it's all at your fingertips. At home, keep it near the phone so you can record the details of all conversations with insurance or doctors' offices. My other suggestion is to contact your insurance company and request (or demand, as the case may be) a case manager for your daughter. That's a person who will act as your contact with the insurance company and help smooth the insurance issues that arise. All the companies have case managers, but they can be stingy with them -- they're for patients with complicated health issues. You definitely qualify, so don't let them tell you otherwise. Sorry to be so mundane when I'd really rather be right there giving you a big hug, but cyber-space is a real limitation that way! Hugs anyway, and prayers too, |
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desdemona22
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 466 |
Apr 15, 2009 11:56 am
desdemona222b wrote:
Best wishes to you and your daughter. What a shame! Dx 11/17/2001, DCIS, <1cm, Stage 0, Grade 3, 0/0 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2+ |
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lisalisa Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 808 |
Apr 15, 2009 12:23 pm
lisalisa wrote:
oh wow....i'm so sorry to read this. I'm in LA too and just finished chemo yesterday. I'm being treated at UCLA where I have been so happy. My breast surgeon is the Director of the Revlon Breast center and is world renowned. I also have a young female oncologist in Santa Monica. If you want 2nd/3rd/or even 4th opinions, I'm happy to help you with names, etc. May I also suggest some cancer for kids books? to help your daughter understand? I'm guessing she'll have chemo and the young kids books do explain that hair does grow back, that cancer is not contagious, etc. My heart goes out to you! hugs, Lisa DX 9/12/08. Lumpectomy 9/25/08 6cm, Stage 3, nodes 4/6, ER+/PR+, HER2-. Bilateral mastectomy 11/19/08 with immediate reconstruction(DIEP). More nodes taken 6/17 total.
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prettyinpin
Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 5,084 |
Apr 15, 2009 12:44 pm
prettyinpink100 wrote:
Binney made a lot of great suggestions. Our journey was 10 years ago but hopefully the children's hospital that you will go to will guide you as you go. Our hospital gave us a binder and all the info but we did a lot of research on our own. As I said earlier, learn to be the squeaky wheel. However, try to be pleasant so that when you need to stomp your feet and get 'that test or tx' NOW, you will. Otherwise they will label you as over bearing and eventually ignore your special requests. I can remember times when I sat for 2 hours on the ward waiting for a room for my daughter to be admitted from clinic. She was not first in line, but because we were visable and pleasant BUT assertive, we would get the room. Unfortunately, someone else's child would be sent home, but you have to do what is best for Your Child. And do ask questions. Lots of questions. Write everything down. And be aware that your daughter will interpret certain information much differently than you hear it. And only you will be able to determine what to share with her. But remember, she will be aware of a lot more than you think. I saw a lot of parents on the ward that thought their kids didn't know what was really going on, but it was clear that the children not only knew but would often think it was worse than it acutally was. Take care PIP
Dx 2/1/2007, IDC, , Stage IIIb, Grade 2, 9/16 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- |
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