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  • Posted on: Nov 4, 2009 09:58 pm
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 17
ihatescreennames wrote:

I'm sure lots of people have asked that question before, and I could probably find the answers if I start looking.  However, I don't think I really have the patience to concentrate on that now.

I'm 32 y/o with no family history.  Found a lump about a month ago.  Had a mammogram/ultrasound last week.  Core biopsy of 3 different spots on Monday.  Inner upper quadrant (biggest, most suspicious looking spot), right near nipple, and one spot in axillary that I didn't know was there until the ultrasound.  Found out today it is invasive ductal carcinoma.  I asked if cancer was found in all three spots and she said yes, but I guess I don't know for sure if she meant all 3 spots biopsied, or all 3 samples from the suspicious spot.  They took 2 samples from the spot by nipple, 3 from the suspicious spot, and 1 from the axillary spot.

 Anyway, I am to meet with the breast care navigator in the morning, so she can explain to me what to expect and answer any questions.  Then, I have an appointment with a surgeon on Friday to find out about all of that. 

If you could please let me know what I should be focusing on at these appointments, I'd appreciate the help.

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CoolBreeze
Sacramento
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 458
Nov 4, 2009 10:12 pm CoolBreeze wrote:

I would get a copy of your pathology report.  It will give you ER/PR status, HER status, grade of cell growth,  and that will dictate the course of your treatment - whether you need chemo/herceptin/hormonal treatment or not.I'd call tomorrow and have that faxed to you immediately - it's your right to have it. 

If you really do have cancer in three different spots, then a mastectomy will be necessary for you.  I had the same thinig - had my heart set on lumpectomy but because of the multifocal nature of my disease, I had to have mastectomy.  So, you will want to get clear on that.

You'll want to ask about your reconstruction options.  There are many if you aren't too thin.  You may not want reconstruction at all, so then you will want to find out about prosthesis.

The breast navigation people just gave me information on support groups, where to get wigs, get fitted for prosthesis, etc.  Nothing about the health/prognosis information you want, but it may be different in your area.  

Good luck.  You have a lot to learn but you'll get through it.  

Ann's cancer blog. http://butdoctorihatepink.blogspot.com/
Diagnosis: 8/17/2009, IDC, 4cm, Grade 3, 0/3 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2+
nene2059
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 106
Nov 4, 2009 10:13 pm nene2059 wrote:

Ok they will try to do a clinical staging by finding out from your biopsy if your IDC is hormone positive (estrogen or progesterone), her2 positive, all three positive or some combination of these positive, or triple negative (all three negative for receptors).  Triple negative is a concern for younger women because it tends to be more aggressive which is already an issue for younger women.  You hope to have a cancer that is er+ and/or pr+ because they are less aggressive and there are more treatment options.  They will find out your grade (1,2,3) with 3 being the most aggressive because these cells grow faster and are the most unlike normal breast cells.  One thing you may already know is that IDC is the most common BC so you are in good company.  It is invasive so chemo is likely especially with several spots. I ended up having two separate IDC's one in each breast.  You will be going through lots of tests like MRI and CT to see the extent of the cancer and if it has spread (metastisized) to any other organ.  These are standard and are not being done because they suspect anything but to rule things out.  Get a copy of your pathology reports and tests and bring the info here and the ladies will explain it all to you. Take someone with you to all appointments so that they can ask questions and hear things that you may not be able to focus on right now.  It will feel like a whirlwind at first but once a treatment plan is in place things will settle down.  I know others will be along shortly to give more advice. Best wishes.


Diagnosis: 1/28/2009, IDC, 2cm, Stage IIa, Grade 2, 0/9 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
Fidelia
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 47
Nov 5, 2009 12:56 am Fidelia wrote:

Dear ihatescreennames,

So sorry you are here - I read your earlier post and hoped against hope you would be in the lucky category - but everything CoolBreeze and nene2059 have said is so accurate - especially the need to do further tests - they do NOT suspect anything - just need to look to be thorough - that said - the MOST important thing is the pathology - the ER PR and HER2 status - that information needs to be used to work out the best approach both surgically and post surgically. The key thing is to remain calm - much easier said than done - but as you can see - there are many many other fellow travellers and there is a wealth of support - keep posting and asking - I don't think anyone should expect you to trawl the research - everyone's experience is unique - ask the questions and get the help and the very best of luck with this!!!

paigelise
OH
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 63
Nov 5, 2009 10:24 am paigelise wrote:

As Nene2059 said...try to take someone with you!  I was taking notes and thought I was pretty together at my surgeon appt.  It sort of all evaporated by the time I got to the parking deck!  My husband was able to add things that I swear I didn't even hear!  I've also been carrying a notebook around to jot down questions as they come to me later.

I'm sorry you are going thru this but glad you are here on this board!  This has been a great place for research (when you are up to it!) and venting.

Wendy 


Diagnosis: 10/23/2009, IDC, <1cm, ER+/PR+
kimbly
MI
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 382
Nov 5, 2009 10:31 am kimbly wrote:

Yes to all that the ladies here have posted.!!! Stay calm. You seem to be pretty calm from your post and once you know all the details and have a plan of action you will feel more in control. 


Diagnosis: 11/21/2007, IDC, 1cm, Stage I, 0/3 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2+
PurpleMe
Georgetown, ON
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 153
Nov 5, 2009 10:58 am PurpleMe wrote:

Definitely agree with Nene2059 and paigelise - take someone with you to take notes. Once you find out the details and what plan of action they are proposing then take some time to review what has been advised.  I know that having gone through this, I wish I had taken more time to explore all my options. Would I have done anything differently - maybe - maybe not.  

You will get through this. The majority of the people on this site are very supportive and helpful.  No question is dumb, so feel free to ask and ask and ask.  

You will be in my thoughts and prayers.

Blessed Be 

My life is an unfinished canvas waiting for the next brush stroke.
Diagnosis: 10/2008, IDC, 1cm, Stage IIa, Grade 2, 2/10 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
hrf
ON
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 887
Nov 5, 2009 11:49 am hrf wrote:

Also ask if they will do sentinal node or full dissection. Hopefully they will do sentinal node and if nodes are clear, it is a much easier recovery from surgery. Good luck.

BRCA2+ first dx in Oct. 2004 2nd dx Feb. 2009 a new primary
Diagnosis: 2/6/2009, ILC, 2cm, Stage II, Grade 1, 4/6 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
ihatescreen…
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 17
Nov 6, 2009 09:41 am ihatescreennames wrote:

I met with the breast care navigator yesterday.  She went over the pathology report with me again.  Cancer was found in all three locations.  IDC with some lobular features, so they're doing some further testing to make sure it is not a lobular cancer, but they're pretty sure it is ductal.  The third spot that was biopsied was probably a lymph node, so that makes me a bit nervous.  Also, the 1st sample was 0% for ER/PR.  They're sending the 2nd sample to a different lab to have it checked for ER/PR and for HER2.  Anyone know what the chances are of it being positive in the second sample?  Being negative also makes me nervous, since it seems to be more agressive, and I keep finding posts in different places of triple negative people who had double mastectomy's only to have mets appear a year or two later in other places.  And obviously I don't know what the HER2 status is.  If one is ER/PR negative, is it thought to be better treatment wise to be HER2 positive, negative or does it really matter?  I'd love to hear from any long term survivors who were triple negative and have not had mets appear down the road.  The navigator said they wouldn't know staging, grade etc until after surgery.  But the pathology report says all three samples were poorly differentiated, which I gather is grade 3 from what I've read.  Does that sound right?  This all seems like bad news.  I meet with a surgeon this afternoon, and then she said I'd probably be meeting with a medical oncologist and radiation oncologist next week to get my treatment plan all worked out.

mawhinney
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 630
Nov 6, 2009 08:29 pm mawhinney wrote:

The biopsy path report is preliminary. The final path report will have more details.  During your surgery they will do a quick path exam of your tissue but will do a more indepth exam later.  Based on the biopsy reports your doctors will "guess" at your course of treatment. The final path report may or may not alter your treatment plan.

You will be working with a team of doctors and in some breast cancer centers a nurse navigator coordinates all your necessary appointments. Make a separate list of questions for each doctor's visit.  Be sure to ask each doctor how often they do the procedure or treatment they are recommending.  You want someone that is experienced and does the recommended treatment frequently.


Diagnosis: 5/18/2008, IDC, <1cm, Stage Ib, Grade 2, 0/1 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
maggie14
Belgium
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 8
Nov 8, 2009 08:15 am maggie14 wrote:

I guess we're sisters, Ihatescreennames, since I also found out on Tuesday Nov. 3, a day before you.  I'm less ahead than you, though, since I have my next round of tests on Tuesday.  All I know is the size (3 cm) and the location (1/2 way to armpit from my nipple on the left side).  Parents, 2 kids and close friends know, but haven't told anyone at work (I teach gr 5)...I feel like the next 5 stages of grief are yet to hit me...right now its just denial and disbelief.

I'm 40 and I live in Belgium, so everything is in French--an added challenge to my coming to grips with the technical aspects of this, I tell you!

 Hang in there, Ihatescreennames, and lets make sure to stay positive together!


Diagnosis: 11/3/2009
caligirlnin…
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 5
Nov 8, 2009 08:33 am caligirlnindy wrote:

hello,

I live in Indiana. hello from the USA  I was diagnosed on Oct. 9th. two tumors one 3cm cancer one smaller no cancer.  I had my lumpectomy on Oct. 30th.  I feel great.  not alot of pain at all!!!! i stayed over night.  i had morphine in the hospital and tylenol with codine when i got home.  i only took one pill a day for three days.  really didnt need it anymore.  along with the lump. they did a sentinal node biopsy.  that area is still tender.  they got everything and all my lymph nodes are clear.  I start internal radiation next week. it is called mammosite.  there is a website.  external radiation takes 6 weeks. internal takes one week.  then i will start chemo.  i am triple negative so i get to take nasty chemo that you lose your hair. wooooooo hoooooooo.  feel free to ask questions, since i am a step or two ahead of you.  Stay Strong, Live LONG.

caligirlnin…
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 5
Nov 8, 2009 08:56 am caligirlnindy wrote:

Hello,

I am triple negative, clear lymph nodes. at first i was VERY SCARED, But after doing more research and ALOT of praying, i know that i will be a survivor.  triple negative is NOT a death sentence.  i get a mammo every year, so it was caught early.  Robin Roberts on GMA was triple negative. mawwhinney gave you some excellent information!!!! ask a ton of questions and if ANY of your doctors get upset with your questions GET another dr.  you have to be comfortable with your doctors.  my surgeon is wonderful, my radioligist is excellent and my oncologist studied at Johns Hopkins and his specialty is Breast Cancer.  i would also contact the american cancer society, they will give you alot of information.  stay strong, live long  

cmharris59
GA
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 405
Nov 10, 2009 08:52 am cmharris59 wrote:

Be sure and get a consult with a plastic surgeon as well if you are having any surgery. A plastic surgeon cna ensure that he has something to work with for recon during the initial surgery.  A breast surgeon or general surgeon is usually not concerned with whether the plastic surgeon has an easy time of it or not. Just remember that if the plastic surgeon has an easy time your results will look better.

C

"The first thing I do in the morning is brush my teeth and sharpen my tongue." ~ Dorothy Parker
Diagnosis: 6/8/2007, IDC, 5cm, Stage IIb, Grade 3, 0/1 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2+
cmharris59
GA
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 405
Nov 10, 2009 08:57 am cmharris59 wrote:

Oh and if you are Her2+ feel free to PM for advice. Her2+ indicates a more aggressive cancer, but there is good news too.  It is a more positive diagnosis if you are er- and pr- to get a her2+ path report. Being Her2+ means that you will have more treatment options available to you than if you were triple neg. Currently, any ++ path can be treated, it is the negatives that are especially tricky.

C

"The first thing I do in the morning is brush my teeth and sharpen my tongue." ~ Dorothy Parker
Diagnosis: 6/8/2007, IDC, 5cm, Stage IIb, Grade 3, 0/1 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2+

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