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  • Posted on: Apr 22, 2008 09:51 pm
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 28
mtriso wrote:

Does any one know if doing abdominal exercises like crunches, etc makes the breast from a tram flap harder? I had a tram flap after my mastectomy 7 years ago and for several years the tram breast was always very hard, never soft feeling. About 2 years ago it soften up, around the time that stress in my life caused me to stop exercising. Now, I am back to exercising on a regular basis and have started doing abdominal exercises for the first time ever and now I am wondering if it will cause the breast to get hard. That breast has also gotten smaller than the non cancer breast and I wonder if it will grow from the abdominal exercises. I feel like I am rambling so I hope this is understandable. Any one have any ideas on this? Thanks.

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lockerbie2
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 3
May 19, 2008 12:09 am lockerbie2 wrote:

I had a double tram flap and i am having a heck of a timewith my stomach!!! It bloats and i feel like i am going to burst! also i can't  move quickly (normal reflexes) without having pain, i can't do a sit up. and  i ache in the bottom of my stomach.  Did something like this happen to you? is it normal?

swimangel72…
NY
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 1,616
May 19, 2008 12:25 am swimangel72 wrote:

Hi Mtriso - Did you have a "free-tram" ? If so, you should be fine doing abdominal exercises.....they should have no impact on the hardness of your new breast. Your new breast should stay soft - the hardness you experienced before was no doubt due to the newness of the procedure and possibly due to swelling. But since I haven't done any abdominal exercises myself yet after m March 3rd Diep, I can't really give you advice - who knows what will happen to my new "foob" when I start trying to get back in shape?

Lockerbie2 - your screenname conjurs up a sad time for me when my husband's close friend died in that awful terrorist attack on the plane over Lockerbie - is that what your name refers to? To answer your question - the same thing happened to me - the bloating - the pain - and my Diep surgery was nearly 3 months ago. How long ago did you have your surgery? And again - was yours a "free-tram" - that is, a "muscle-sparing tram"? If not, then you may not be able to do a sit-up ever again without the aid of a physical therapist (this according to a friend of mine who had her surgery about 10 years ago.) My own bloating is due to abdominal lymphema and I'm been going to an LE therapist who performs massage therapy on the abdomen and arm. It helps - a little bit - but I find if I'm too active during the day, my tummy gets even more bloated at night. I'm told it WILL get better over time - so I'm hoping the same will be true for you! Be sure to talk to your surgeon about your problems and ask him if he thinks a lymphedma therapist could help you. 

3/3/08 Right-side mastectomy with immediate Diep
Dx 2/5/2008, IDC, <1cm, Stage I, Grade 1, 0/7 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2+
bean2649
Essex Junction, VT
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 21
May 26, 2008 10:10 pm bean2649 wrote:

Hi, I'm new. I stumbled on this site looking for answers about abdominal swelling after a Tram flap. I had a mastectomy and tramflap on February 12. Sometimes, my abdomen feels like it's stretched tight and bloated. It does seem to worsen when I am active. Everyone says it can take months and to be patient.

I'm concerned due to the difference between when I'm inactive and when I'm active. I have CFS so my active isn't all that active.

Do any of you were a compression garment? My surgeon suggested one and I have tried many different ones. Should I wear it all the time? What kind is best?

Any info would be much appreciated.

Believe
Dx 12/17/2007, DCIS, 1cm, Stage I, Grade 1, 0/3 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2-
FitChik
Morrisville, NC
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 4,817
May 27, 2008 10:35 am FitChik wrote:

bean...You might want to repeat this question up in the surgery or recon sections where more women hang out and are more likely to have had the same issue.

~Marin

I can't change the wind, but I can adjust my sails!
Pharmmom
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 924
Jun 19, 2008 03:54 pm Pharmmom wrote:

Hi

I had the tram and was told no sit ups etc.  I had a hernia too.  I feel like my sides are deflating!!!!  Love handles.  :) LOL.  I spoke to the doctor and he said there was not much I could do with abdominal exercises.  I have gained about 8 pounds and its depressing me! 


Dx IDC, 1cm, Stage IIa, Grade 3, 3/17 nodes, ER+, HER2+
Scottie1958…
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 5
Jul 15, 2008 03:35 pm Scottie1958 wrote:

I to am having problems with stomach/upper abdomen bloating after DIEP surgery.  I did not know, until today, that I was not suppose to do exercises (especially sit-ups) until 6 months after my surgery.  Now I'm wondering if I made a small issue into a mountain.  I've stopped with the exercising, but I too have gained weight as I have to take Femara for the next five years.  I am very unhappy about the weight gain.  Thought about trying to get LapBand surgery to keep the weight gain down, but the 2/3d stage of my reconstructive breast surgery is due next Monday.  I will have to delay consulting with a gastroenterologist until later.  If anyone has an alternative to the bloated stomach, please share.

Thank you

Scottie1958…
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 5
Jul 15, 2008 03:39 pm Scottie1958 wrote:

Wow, I already feel better just reading the messages here.  At one point, I thought I was truly going to become the freak of nature.  To have a nice, flat lower abdomen, but the bulging top portion is driving me crazy.  I have to keep pulling the top part of my pants or it rolls down.  It's embarrasing at times.  I will speak with my surgery about it this week.  Any news I get, I will come back and share with you all.

RRR
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 39
Jul 15, 2008 09:06 pm, edited Jul 15, 2008 09:29 PM by RRR RRR wrote:

I am about three months post TRAM surgery.  I am lumpy and bumpy in some areas around my breasts but my PS said he would remove much of that and even things out in stage 2 so I am not worried about that.  I had been exercising on an indoor bike and really watching my diet, keeping it bland.  I was really pleased with some semblance of a shape returning  and I had lost about 14 lbs after surgery.  Fast forward a couple of weeks and now my family is visiting.  Bunch of eaters, we have been eating out, BBQ'ing, having snacks, drinks, appetizers, etc.  I went back to the bloated upper belly with the funky detached feeling in my gut that I started out with.  I think my midsection looks like a frog belly right before dissection (a vision that keeps the sprinkles off my ice cream).  I haven't really gone overboard on eating.  I just need to face facts that I can't have salty food, spicy sauces, carbonated drinks, processed foods, bacon or anything that will cause bloat because right now it will just go to extremes. I have since upped my water intake, started eating better, cut out soda, and tossed all the fun food except the bag of Hershey kisses (they don't go bad).  Already I can feel things deflating.

Just noticed my recent default photo was taken at Chili's.

Liz
Dx 7/5/2007, IDC, 3cm, Stage IIb, Grade 3, 1/25 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2-
Scottie1958…
Joined: Sep 2007
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Sep 10, 2008 10:19 am, edited Sep 10, 2008 10:20 AM by Scottie1958 Scottie1958 wrote:
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Tigwin
Sunny So Cal
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 257
Oct 28, 2008 01:12 am Tigwin wrote:

I had my tram on August 25th.  I was told no exercise what so ever for three solid months.  I  will see my surgeon in November to find our what I can do besides walk.  I have lost 15lbs since the surgery but i had a hysterectomy as well.  I tried to do a sit up yesterday just to try and i could do it but I only did three and quit.  I think we all have to realize this is a long haul and we have to be paitent.  I think this is the hardes thing for me.  My brain is alive and wanting to go but my body is not there yet. 

One thing my surgeon explained to me was your stomach is tighter which will not allow you to eat as much as you would normally.  I cannot eat the same amount I use to without rushing to the bathroom.  Sorry to share that but it really has been the hardest part for me. I have to eat very small meals slowly to have it digest well. 

Hang in there...we will get through this.


Dx 2/28/2008, IDC, , Stage , / nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
sccruiser
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 1,101
Nov 26, 2008 12:19 pm sccruiser wrote:

I had a TRAMflap recon on right breast. Ended up with truncal Lymphedema. I fluctuate about 5-8 lbs in weight on a daily basis--sometimes w/in hours. Water aerobics has been my exercise choice, and it has kept me sane and my belly flat. I highly recommend it. There are exercises you can do in the water that mimic crunches, and I am slowly getting stronger belly muscles--but they will never be what they were before bc surgeries.

Give the water a try--I go at least 5 days a week! Have just switched to a deep water aerobic class, and dropped 3 lbs the first day. I will begin doing that 3 days a week in January, plus continue my lap swimming (1/2 mile right now) 2 days a week.

You can always get a referral from your doc to see a Lymphedema specialist. A LANA certified therapist can help you determine if you have lymphedema or not. I do, so have prescribed special compression garments I wear daytime and nighttime. I see the therapist every 6 months as needed for measurements and new garments.

grace
Dx 5/10/2004, DCIS, <1cm, Stage 0, Grade 3, 0/3 nodes
sarjie5
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 1
Aug 6, 2009 09:27 am sarjie5 wrote:

Hi I am new to this forum.  I had a tram flap reconstruction on May 26 2009.  Since then I have suffered from the bloating.  what I do notice is that it goes away when I do light exericise such as walking and when I watch what I eat, particularly avoiding coffee and salty foods.  Hope this helps.


Dx 12/29/2008, DCIS, Stage 0, Grade 3, 0/0 nodes, ER+, HER2-
bettysoo620…
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 4
Sep 18, 2009 11:41 pm, edited Sep 18, 2009 11:46 PM by bettysoo620 bettysoo620 wrote:

I had a free tram flap on Sept 16 2008, I am having the same problems, I am 131 lbs, I get bloated if I eat a slice of melon, also my pants cannot stay up on my waist what do you suggest

bettysoo620

smithlme
Fort Bragg, CA
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 909
Sep 19, 2009 01:08 am, edited Sep 19, 2009 01:10 AM by smithlme smithlme wrote:

I had a failed TRAM in January of 2008 and I still get bloated every day. By the end of the day I look and feel terrible. The bottom of my stomach is nicely shaped but the top bloats sideways. On October 14 I am having scar revision surgery to get rid of the dog ears on my sides and to flatten out the skin sparing mastectomy mess on my right side and smooth out the left side. If I'm going to be flat I want it to look as good as possible...

Linda

Edited to add that Yoga has been the best "exercise" for me. My core is much stronger.

Dx 3/31/08, DCIS, ER+/PR- BRCA2+...Life is a series of every day miracles...
Diagnosis: 3/28/2007, IDC, 2cm, Stage II, Grade 3, 0/9 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2-
bettysoo620…
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 4
Sep 30, 2009 09:31 pm bettysoo620 wrote:

I am having the same problems with my pants, pretty soon I will have to wear suspenders, every where I go I have to keep pulling up my pants, is ther something we can do about this, I am 130 lbs, also my stomach is so so lopsided, I am really depressed about it, I am actually sorry I did it, so confused. 

bettysoo620 

bettysoo620…
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 4
Oct 6, 2009 02:02 pm, edited Oct 6, 2009 02:03 PM by bettysoo620 bettysoo620 wrote:

I feel the same way, so depressing I am so lopsided, also I can't wear thight clothing, my scar across my tummy itiches like crazy, does this happen to all who had the free tram flap?

franee137
Staten Island, NY
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 2
Oct 26, 2009 10:52 am franee137 wrote:

WOW!..I thought I was well past shedding any tears over my breast cancer experiences. I was 34years old when I was diagnosed with IDCS. I just passed the 10 year mark. But after reading this blog..I am sitting here in tears. I had tram flap surgery back when no one knew what it was. I also had the complication of a seroma, right in the middle of my stomach right after the surgery. Basically it was a LARGE pocket of fluid that kept filling up and wouldnt heal. As a result of this I needed to have a drain put back in 3 mos. after my original surgery, leaving me with a vertical scar, about 6 inches long from my belly button up. Until today this area is still tender, it bulges, it aches, and it makes finding a pair of jeans, that fit comfortably damn near impossible.I have also had a few other procedues done laproscopically. The last doctor told me that the scar tissue in that area is so thick he almost couldnt get through it. I thought I was the only one who's pants didnt fit right and had to keep yanking them back up! It doesnt make my jeans fit any better but it helps to know I am in good company!

Fran
sandy2009
OH
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 77
Oct 27, 2009 06:48 pm sandy2009 wrote:

Hi, I had a DIEP surgery that turned into a ped. tram on 2/25/2009.  I was bloated for months and worried a lot about it.  I went to an occupational therapist for arm exercises to begin with, then eventually for my core muscle/stomach.   I went from May-Sept twice a week.   I stopped going when I finally could do a sit up!   I said "if I can do this, I WANT to do it!"    With help, and holding my feet down I eventually purservered and did a sit up, then 5 and eventually 5 more. Trust me, this was not easy.   

I want to eventually do a sit up without help, I believe it's possible but you need good help and coaching.


Diagnosis: 11/10/2008, ILC, 6cm+, Stage IIb, Grade 2, 0/3 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-

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