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SherriG Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 5,399 |
Nov 5, 2009 11:23 pm
SherriG wrote:
Weesa, I hear you!! It makes me want to scream at the top of my lungs that too many of us fall off the radar when it comes to "early detection". When I am telling my bc story I always include how mammos and ultrasound failed me. It scares some women who think they are doing all they can by getting mammos, but that's OK. I hope my story makes them more vigilent and makes them better advocates for themselves. Diagnosed 11/05/04 Stage 3 ILC "Lump is a four letter word!" Sherri
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Colette37 Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 240 |
Nov 5, 2009 11:32 pm
Colette37 wrote:
weesa.. The reality is that for women who are in a high risk group, that a mammogram is the only way to help detect breast cancer at this time that the insurances are willing to pay for at this time...at least most insurances. I was in a high risk group (because of lifestyle and also my mother having had breast cancer at a young age). I was literally IGNORED when I turned 35 and asked about wanting a mammogram and told to start asking about it when I turned 40! Well, I am now 37 with a 10 cm tumor that would have been seen 2 years ago and was denied the request to have a mammogram or any other testing for that matter! How can I say that it would ahve been seen without a doubt? Because mammograms can see the size of a pea and for the cancer to have to to the size that it was, I would have had to have had it between 4 to 6 year minimum! The tumor was seen on my mammogram and MRI to have been 9.5 cm in March/April. When I had the tumor removed it was 10 cm. (Please keep in mind that I needed to find a hospital who knew what they were doing and how to read the films correctly because I have 4 different sizes reported from looking at the same films! It was 1.7 cm, 3.5 cm, 5-6 cm and 9 1/2...it was only until the last place that they knew what they were looking at and gave an accurate size to what was being seen) What I want to know is why insurances REFUSE to pay for other tests which are better at dedtecting cancer in high risk patients and why Dr. are not trying to set up a better standard of care since more and more young women are developing breast cancer. I wish that I would have had a chance to have a mammogram 2 years ago...it would have saved a LOT of the treatment that I am now having to have just to survive. There IS nothing that women can do to force Insurances to support doing the testing such as MRIs. You STILL need a Dr. to order the test even if you are willing to pay out of pocket for it. That is even with the Mammogram. You know what the worst part about my care? It was the Veteran's Hospital that did it to me. Nice huh? Colette
Diagnosis: 3/17/2009, IDC, 6cm+, Stage IIIb, Grade 3, 0/10 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2+ |
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SherriG Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 5,399 |
Nov 5, 2009 11:43 pm
SherriG wrote:
Wow, Colette!! That is terrible that you were treated that way. For me, I got mammos for 7 years with ultrasounds added in every other year. It makes me mad that the 8cm mass in my breast was completely invisible to the radiologists. I had ILC which tends to be almost impossible to detect. I was dxed at 47 so my docs have all said my DD needs to start screenings when she is 32. She is very diligent in self exams and I have told her that ILC feels nothing like the fake boob with the lump in it, that is in her gyn's office! In a perfect world, we would all be getting breast MRIs as screening tools. I got one AFTER the biopsy confirmed it was cancer. Diagnosed 11/05/04 Stage 3 ILC "Lump is a four letter word!" Sherri
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weesa Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 247 |
Nov 6, 2009 01:08 am
weesa wrote:
colette- yours was one of the more painful stories I received while putting together the mammogram/shammogram roll call. It made me pound my poor computer desk and groan so loudly my cat jumped off my lap.You would think it would be cheaper in the long run for insurance companies to get women diagnosed earlier. I just can't take the current status quo anymore, but I'm really floundering here. When I asked "What are you going to do," it wasn't a rhetorical question, I really want to know what we as individuals or as a group can do.What's happening is barbaric. |
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anniebford Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 64 |
Nov 6, 2009 02:10 am
anniebford wrote:
I know most of the women around me had no clue that a large malignant tumor that had gotten into 9 lymph nodes could be so competely missed, until me. It was there when I saw my dr's and when I had a mammo and us and it was not seen. They did a focused look at the very place on my breast that it was and saw nothing to be concerned about. Should this worry women? Yes!!! But the failures and limitations of the current diagnostic protoccols are not widely known by the women who need to have that information. Everyone wants to believe that what they are doing will be enough. It works for some and the rest of us are collateral damage to the misinformation. All I have been able to do is educate those around me and spout off my opinions here. Annie Diagnosis: 7/8/2008, ILC, Stage IIIa, Grade 2, 9/14 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- |
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weesa Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 247 |
Nov 6, 2009 08:40 pm
weesa wrote:
annie, like you, I have been trying to educate the women around me. If we all told twenty women and they in turn told twenty women...we'd have the whole world covered. Like you, my friends and acquaintances were shocked when I came up with a large malignant tumor and big nodes; and after my surgery still nobody could see in my mammograms, even knowing where it was. Back then, 7 years ago, everybody vowed not to trust mammograms solely again, but now the shock is wearing off and the other day I discovered a good friend had gone back to relying on mammgrams solo. Apologies to all the non-Americans here for my insensitive post about what you are "Thankful for at Thanksgiving." I should know better, my father is Canadian. Sorry! It's was kind of an arrogant, ugly American type thing to do. |
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jenn3 Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 976 |
Nov 7, 2009 12:29 am
jenn3 wrote:
Although I do believe in the mammograms - as mine did confirm what I found. I am the first person in my family to have cancer on either side, and have had no one close to me have cancer of any kind so I really didn't know much about it. I had a mammogram in August 07, skipped follow up in 08 because my youngest daughter was very ill and I was spending most of my free time trying to get her properly dx'd (story worse than mine). However, in June of 08 I had a regular appt in which I had a check by my dr and nothing was there - and I didn't feel a thing doing my self exams. While I was recovering (laid up in bed) from a torn achilles at the end of March 09 I found the lump, but forgot about it until May when it started to hurt. I did research and learned that cancer doesn't hurt and decided not to call the dr because I knew I had a mammogram appt a month later. As for the lymph nodes I had no idea. Looking back the pain I had under my arm when I leaned on my crutches while standing was not the crutches hitting nerves it was the lymph nodes - because when the dr touched under my arms it sent me to the ceiling. In my case my onc can't say for sure, but he believes it was linked to the RH drugs I started taking in Oct 08. He had just written a paper on the link between Humira and Breast Cancer, then shortly after my surgery it was all over the news with warnings. I had no idea - my sister found the warning literally at the bottom of the page in smaller print. I do believe we need better screenings - as my sister has very large dense breast and has to fight for more testing. However, education in so many forms is needed. First -cancer does hurt-terribly! And..... is my cancer a result of the medication - I'll never know, but had I understood the warnings I feel like I could have made a decision based on all of the information - would I have still taken it - I don't know. The onc told me that when medicaitons warn us that our immune systems will be compromised it doesn't just mean from viral and bacterial infections. It also means that our bodies will not be able to fight cancer cells and other illnesses that attack our cellular system and organs. I honestly had no idea that a compromised immune system meant it opened me up to cancer. We need better screening, teach self exams and education in so many ways. We also need to make sure that we know we can question our doctors if we're not comfortable or change doctors. As my grandfather used to say it's the practice of medicine - not an exact science. This is not related to mammograms, but I have to share - the side in which I have cancer is the side that hair has never grown under the arm. Is that a link of some sort? Probably not, but strange......... Diagnosis: 6/19/2009, IDC, 1cm, Stage IIIa, Grade 3, 4/15 nodes, mets, ER-/PR-, HER2- |
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