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Topic: March/April Chemo T/C x 4

Forum: Chemotherapy - Before, During and After — Regimens, side effects, and support from others going through chemo.

Posted on: Mar 28, 2012 03:05 PM

Catherine22 wrote:

Many of us are just starting the T/C cycles and will be going through this together. All TCs gather and share your ups and downs! I started last week and am hoping to be one of those who claim, "It really wasn't that hard." But so far I've had heart palpitations, swollen lips and antibiotics for a chest infection. Trying to use all my 'up' time to do happier things. Let's pool our wisdom, support and woes here.

Your spring comrade,

Catherine  

MX Jan 2012, 5.5cm, ER+ (1%), PR+ (Very Weak in 10%) HER2-
Diagnosis: 12/2/2011, IDC, 5cm, Stage IIIa, Grade 3, 0/4 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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Apr 11, 2012 07:31 PM Likeachickadee wrote:

Pam - have you told your MO?  Sounds like they should be helping out with this.  I had mild diarrhea on and off from a week, but wasn't bad enough where I felt I needed medication and didn't really alter my diet.

Had chemo 2 today.  Everything went well.  Came home and had Chinese food (hot and sour soup and some steamed veggies) compliments of my brother.  Then went for a 1.3 mi walk....did pretty well, but definately got more winded doing the uphills than I am use to as I walk this walk at least a couple times every day.

Optimistically hopeful for mild SE! 

Jeanne - congrats on the cast!

Catherine - hope your treatment today went well and mild SE are in your future.

T/C x4 starting 3/19/12. BMX 2/7/12 w DIEP Flap reconstruction. Dense breasts with microcals, Right breast: ADH, ALH, LCIS, DCIS, IDC, multifocal....BS: "We hate breasts like yours."
Diagnosis: 12/7/2011, IDC, 1cm, Stage I, Grade 3, 0/3 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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Apr 11, 2012 10:27 PM onvacation wrote:

Likeachickadee - glad #2 went well, mine is tomorrow and hoping for equally good results!  Hope everyone has a good evening and minimal side effects tomorrow!

Kim
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Apr 12, 2012 08:03 AM Likeachickadee wrote:

Good luck today Kim!

T/C x4 starting 3/19/12. BMX 2/7/12 w DIEP Flap reconstruction. Dense breasts with microcals, Right breast: ADH, ALH, LCIS, DCIS, IDC, multifocal....BS: "We hate breasts like yours."
Diagnosis: 12/7/2011, IDC, 1cm, Stage I, Grade 3, 0/3 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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Apr 12, 2012 05:03 PM onvacation wrote:

#2 went fine, had a nice nap when I got home!  4 more to go and I am counting the days!

Kim
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Apr 12, 2012 09:30 PM, edited Apr 12, 2012 09:31 PM by DianneNC

I've been lingering on these boards since diagnosis, so I guess it's time to jump in. I start my T/C on April 23rd, so I'm anxiously reading every morsel I can get my hands on. Thank you all so much for sharing your journey!
I had BMX with DIEP reconstruction on March 12, with some major, unfortunate complications. So now, I have a BMX and will likely go the TE/implant route following chemo. One of my incisions is not healed 100%, which is why I have to wait a little longer for chemo to begin. I certainly don't want to do chemo, but the waiting is making me crazy!
I hate any of us have to be here, but it sure is nice to know we aren't alone!


Diagnosis: 2/13/2012, ILC, 3cm, Stage IIa, Grade 3, 0/4 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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Apr 12, 2012 09:50 PM Catherine22 wrote:

Welcome Dianne! No one wants to be here, but we all find solace hearing that others are in it with us and understand.

Jeanne - I forgot about your cast, you are such a trooper. I remember reading your post about your bike crash and later that day, while I was waiting for my partner as he was in a store, I was imagining what it would be like to not only have chemo, but to have to have cast impairment issues as well. 

Likeachickadee & onvacation glad to hear everything went well. We're getting there bit by bit, together.

I had another reaction yesterday, but it wasn't too bad. Weird thing was it was to the Taxotere this time, whereas last time it was to the Cytoxan(?). Anyway, I guess I got myself flagged last time so they were all over it, in no time I was dopey and extra-steroided and they got the rest in. They said it was better to dope up and try or else they'd have to alter my chemo. Crazy thing is I thought - no, you can't do that I am part of a group experiencing THIS one! Ha, you never know how these boards are going to find there way into your thoughts (evidence of supportive company, so thanks.)

Janie - thanks for checking in on me. :)

Those of you who are experiencing poop pains, this is what I was told and so far, so good. Watch within the first 36 - 48 hours for any evidence of real struggle going to the bathroom. Then, if you know you are heading toward serious constipation take a Senokot-S that night. It is natural, you can get it at the pharmacy and it gently does it business overnight. The thing is you want to take it before you get too clogged up but not too early as you want to avoid softening things up if it isn't needed. Also, a three strain probiotic (refrigerated) from a pharmacy or good foods store will help to begin the restoration of the poor flora/bacteria that was slaughtered in our digestive systems by the chemo - that's the real story of what's going on in there! My tongue has NEVER been so clean - it looks like a pop singer's tongue when they are belting out the tunes (flora gone).

In the meantime, I'm enjoying the good artificially high feeling of those steroids! Took my last dose an hour ago. Many it only be overcast, and not stormy (in my body), this time tomorrow night when they have fully worn off. Fingers crossed.

MX Jan 2012, 5.5cm, ER+ (1%), PR+ (Very Weak in 10%) HER2-
Diagnosis: 12/2/2011, IDC, 5cm, Stage IIIa, Grade 3, 0/4 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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Apr 12, 2012 11:01 PM slak wrote:

I'm 18 days post TX1, and physically feeling okay, but today was a bad mental day.  I don't know why I can't get comfortable with my wig.  It just doesn't look right to me.  I never looked at myself in a mirror so much, and now I'm also noticing how old I look.  Then I take off my wig (I call her 'Fiona') and see the bald patches, and a benign but ugly bump on my head, uggh!  Wow, some days I think 'I can do this!' and other days, like today, I think 'why is time slowing down so     that     every     thing       seems        to        take         so         much        longer.......'    I'm ready to be done with Chemo and ready for hair to regrow and it hasn't even all fallen out yet.  Sorry to vent.  Tomorrow will be a better day!


Diagnosis: 1/23/2012, IDC, 3cm, Stage II, Grade 1, 0/2 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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Apr 13, 2012 08:41 AM janiemomof2 wrote:

slak - I hear you! I've been on an emotional roller coaster. Today is day 16 for me so we are pretty close to each other in the process. I started to get "down" while reading other threads on the boards about hair re-growth. Just how long it will take and how different it will be. But, what brought me out of it was my husband. We were talking and he said: "you know, when you come through all this crap to the other side you will have a lower chance of breast cancer than the regular population and that's pretty good odds". And, he's right. I have to focus on the long term b/c when I focus on the day to day I can get "stuck". kwim?

Also, I try to remember what my Oncologist said when she first layed it all out at the beginning of dx and tx. "You are going to have a really bad year and then it will be over and you have the rest of your life". So, basically 2012 is going to suck.

ONTO 2013!!!

hang in there xoxo

~Janie~ wife, mother, nursing student, survivor.
Diagnosis: 1/20/2012, IDC, 2cm, Stage I, Grade 2, 0/5 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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Apr 13, 2012 08:46 AM slak wrote:

Hi Janie, my husband said the same thing as yours!  They are right of course.  2012 will be the year of dealing with health issues, while 2013 will be the year to travel and do the fun things in life because we will be done with all the major non-fun stuff!  Today is really a better day.  Thanks for the pick-me-up!


Diagnosis: 1/23/2012, IDC, 3cm, Stage II, Grade 1, 0/2 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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Apr 13, 2012 06:44 PM GeorgiaMom wrote:

Catherine- sorry you had a hard time again but glad they didn't have to alter your treatment (of course even if they did we'd want you to hang out here anyway). Once you figure out your SE's and when to expect them you don't want to start on something else.

Slak- I love that you named your wig! I'll have to come up with a cool name for mine sinec it will be a part of my life for a long time. I really like mine and find it makes getting ready in the morning so easy. I've gotten a lot of compliments on it from people who don't know it's a wig but I find it hard to just say "thanks". Today someone asked me where I got my hair done and I confessed that it was a wig. What's wrong with me? Anyone else feel weird like that?

And yes 2012 has been a crappy year so far but I'm hoping to have the best summer of my life. Will you all please remind me of that when I start complaining about how hot my "wonderful" wig is?

Have a great weekend everyone!

Jeanne

Diagnosis: 1/3/12, IDC (Micropapillary), 1cm., Stage 1b, Grade 2, 0/3 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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Apr 13, 2012 07:09 PM Melrosemelrose wrote:

Hello Ladies

It looks like my first infusion of taxotere/cytoxan will be on April 24 (Tuesday).  I having six rounds every 3 weeks.  I've roaming through the chemo boards trying to absorb as much as I could about everyone's personal experience.  Well, it's my turn now to get this trip to chemoland started and join in this adventure with you.  I probably would have started a little sooner but I had to have emergency surgery to fix of UMX bleeder on 3/25.  I had my UMX w/o recon and port placement on 3/14 and was doing okay until I got hit with some bad sinus allergies and bronchitiis.  I think the bleeder was caused by coughing too much and too hard.  I got the last drain out today and hopefully will be as physically fit as one can be after surgery to go forward with the chemo.  

I'm also participating in the Herceptin B-47 clinical trial which is to determine whether low HER2 patients benefit from receiving Herceptin.  A low HER2  score is a +1 which is considered negative.  HER2 +1's do not receive Herceptin as part of treatment now.  Researchers went back and reviewed the HER2 scores of the participants in a prior clinical trial and determined that some were really low HER2 +1.  I will know at the first infusion if I will be receiving the Herceptin.  It is a randomized study with no placebos--- you either receive or not.

Thanks to each of you for posting your SE's and leading the way for me.   Have a wonderful weekend!!!!!

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Apr 14, 2012 09:40 PM Jaebon wrote:

Hello everyone,

I recieved my first treatment of taxotere and cytoxan on Friday April 13,2012. I also recieved the neulesta shot. I was given claritain before the shot.So far I can happily say i have not had any side affects. Thank you Jesus.  

I do not know what is to come but i will say i am a bit anxious/nervous about it. I do not think i am mentally prepared for hair loss yet. Ive never expierenced fatigue so that will be a new one for me also.

 How was everyone else feeling after treatment #1? When did most of the side affects begin? 


Diagnosis: 1/13/2012, DCIS
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Apr 14, 2012 09:55 PM GeorgiaMom wrote:

Welcome Jaebon! My first treatment was on a Friday and I started to feel bone pain on Sunday afternoon. It Lasted for a couple of days. Had my second treatment on a Wednesday so I could have the worst SE's on the weekend when I don't have to work. Scheduled for Tx #3 this Wednesday. So far, the SE's for me have been very tolerable and I haven't missed any work. Hair loss is a real tough one - probably the hardest part of the whole cancer ordeal for me but it will grow back. Hope your side effects are minimal! Hang in there!

Jeanne

Diagnosis: 1/3/12, IDC (Micropapillary), 1cm., Stage 1b, Grade 2, 0/3 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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Apr 14, 2012 10:01 PM Jaebon wrote:

Thanks for sharing GeorgiaMom.  Yeah im not looking forward to the hair loss. So far so good on any kind of bone pain. Lets see what the next few days bring.


Diagnosis: 1/13/2012, DCIS
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Apr 14, 2012 10:32 PM Catherine22 wrote:

I received some good advice when I got my 1st treatment - to keep a brief daily log of how I felt (as it is different for everyone). Now that I am going through the days after my 2nd treatment some of the SE are familiar and I can see my way through them. But it helped for me to have those descriptions from the last time and to know I can mostly just wait things out and in the meantime rest. Like today, when I was walking I felt like a helium balloon, as if I might actually float away. ***WEIRD*** And tonight I can feel the familiar metal-junk-yard-tongue thing coming back...but overall, pretty okay. Okay meaning I feel about a 6.5/10 (I had my 2nd treatment three days ago).

A billion blessings to those of you working (at your jobs) through your treatments. And a billion more for those of you with little children. 

Smile 

MX Jan 2012, 5.5cm, ER+ (1%), PR+ (Very Weak in 10%) HER2-
Diagnosis: 12/2/2011, IDC, 5cm, Stage IIIa, Grade 3, 0/4 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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Apr 14, 2012 11:53 PM, edited Apr 14, 2012 11:55 PM by Jaebon

when does the metal taste start?  I have started a video diary of my progress and i also write down how i am feeling each day. Today wasa good day. I do feel kind of achy around my shoulders but other than that i have been good today. Lets see what tomorrow brings.


Diagnosis: 1/13/2012, DCIS- diagnosed with stage 1 triple negative bc on 3/22/12
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Apr 15, 2012 07:12 AM onvacation wrote:

Catherine, I've been tracking mine also, I seem to be on the same track as the first treatment.  If that stays that way, today is my crash on the couch feel like I've been hit by a truck day!  But I felt better by Monday the last time too, so hope that continues.  Taste buds are gone again and getting the white tongue thing.  No sore yet, just weird feeling!

 I went to bed so early last night I was up at 4.30!  UGH -I did do my workout last night, and it seemed to help, going to try to move a bit today also!

Hope everyone has a lovely day! 

Kim
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Apr 15, 2012 12:35 PM Catherine22 wrote:

I have a bad attitude today, though I am keeping it to myself and smiling to the outside world. I feel nickel-and-dimed shitty. I have indigestion, feel like a flat tire and my joints & legs muscles are acting achey - but I am not on Neulasta, so what could cause that? I can't nap and sleeping through the night is like staying 1/2 awake, but with my eyes closed.

Yeah, I'm in a poop place this afternoon. Don't feel awful, merely pathetic and whiny and low.

Argh. 

MX Jan 2012, 5.5cm, ER+ (1%), PR+ (Very Weak in 10%) HER2-
Diagnosis: 12/2/2011, IDC, 5cm, Stage IIIa, Grade 3, 0/4 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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Apr 16, 2012 07:28 AM Likeachickadee wrote:

Hi all,

Tx 2 was on Wed and Neulesta on Thursday.  I felt wonderful till Friday evening then started feeling a little blah after my yoga class.  I made myself go to a low impact aerobics class Sat morning and my sister came to spend the day.  The bone "zingers" started early afternoon and I felt wiped out.  Took a percocet at bedtime. 

Sunday was horrible!  Woke up with a lot of bone pain, nausea and intigestion.  Felt like I was on the verge of crying most of the day from the lousy feeling.  Took oxy and the over the counter stuff for the other side effects.  My voice scared my sister and a girlfriend and they both came for a visit just to check on me. 

This morning I feel better...only needed 2 Tylenol Ex strenth for the bone pain in legs.  I hope it continues....

I'm finishing my coffee and then get to go to my divorce hearing at 8:30.

As Kelly Clarkson's song 'Stronger' goes:  ".....what doesn't kill you makes you stronger....stand a little taller...what doesn't kill you makes a fighter....what doesn't kill you makes you stronger, just me, myself and I...what doesn't kill you makes you stronger....stand a little taller...."  That;s my mantra these days....

Wishing everyone minimal SE as we get past this speedbump!

T/C x4 starting 3/19/12. BMX 2/7/12 w DIEP Flap reconstruction. Dense breasts with microcals, Right breast: ADH, ALH, LCIS, DCIS, IDC, multifocal....BS: "We hate breasts like yours."
Diagnosis: 12/7/2011, IDC, 1cm, Stage I, Grade 3, 0/3 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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Apr 16, 2012 02:39 PM DianneNC wrote:

Thank you all for posting the real deal. I'm so sorry for those of your struggling, and I love the Kelly Clarkson lyrics! I'll be sure to keep that in mind next week.
One week from today is my first chemo. I'm scared, and spend all day reading threads to prepare myself. I went to the Look Good, Feel Better class this morning at the cancer center and really enjoyed it. What a great group of women and a huge bag of cosmetics to play with!!
I get my port placed Thursday....not looking forward to that either!


Diagnosis: 2/13/2012, ILC, 3cm, Stage IIa, Grade 3, 0/4 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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Apr 16, 2012 03:00 PM onvacation wrote:

Dianne - good luck next week on first chemo - I found the anticipation worse than the actual treatment, so I hope the same for you!  Tons of great info on this site with some great and supportive ladies to boot!

Kim
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Apr 17, 2012 08:42 PM nfranklin wrote:

This morning was good full of energy no other apparent SE's. Could not eat or drink anything before fasting blood specimen at 12:45 today at the hospital. Took fruit, nuts, and oat bar and juice to eat after blood is taken. Had bone density test no pain at all 1:30pm, one of the easiest test. Visited with my MO 4pm, discussed the port. I really have only one good vein and they have had to stick me twice each time to put the IV in, he said that was not good so we are talking about the port sooner than later. Came home sneezing and with a runny nose, around 4:30 pm after sitting in a cold waiting room, and oh so tired again, all my energy is GONE, used up in the waiting room of the hospital. I am hoping for energy in the morning, I want to go grocery shopping, so my DH will not have to, even though he doesn't mind at all, but I like to grocery shop sometimes, it's been almost 2 months since I got to grocery shop all on my own.

I am ready for bed can hardly keep my eyes open, don't want to go to bed too early, because I will probably wake up in the wee wee hours of the morning and can't go back to sleep.

Have a good night every one.

Taxol 1 X 12 weeks, FAC 1 X every 3 weeks for 4X, Rads 5 days a week for 6 weeks.
Diagnosis: 9/9/2011, ILC, 5cm, Stage IIIa, 11/26 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2-
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Apr 18, 2012 04:38 PM janiemomof2 wrote:

Ugh! Tx #2 at 9am tmw.... kinda dreading it. I've been feeling so "normal" for the past 5 days that I'm really not looking forward to the next couple of weeks. But, on the upside - I graduate from nursing school on May 4th!!! So that is keeping my spirits up :)

~Jane

~Janie~ wife, mother, nursing student, survivor.
Diagnosis: 1/20/2012, IDC, 2cm, Stage I, Grade 2, 0/5 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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Apr 18, 2012 06:31 PM onvacation wrote:

Jane - good luck tomorrow!  And congrats on graduating Nursing School - that is cool!

Kim
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Apr 18, 2012 08:18 PM DianneNC wrote:

Jane, awesome about nursing school. What a huge accomplishment!!!! Good luck tomorrow! Here's hoping for an uneventful day, and minimal side effects.


Diagnosis: 2/13/2012, ILC, 3cm, Stage IIa, Grade 3, 0/4 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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Apr 19, 2012 02:15 PM StayShiny wrote:

Hi Everyone,

Glad to find you. Thanks for starting Catherine. I had my first round of T&C on 3/28 and 2nd round yesterday. Going back for my Neulasta shot this afternoon. I am still a little ramped up on the steroids and didn't sleep that well even with taking a few melatonins.

Decided to try and get ahead of a few of the SE's this go around - at least that is the hope. Premeditated yesterday with Claritin for the bone pain. Last time I tried Ex-Tylenol + Motrin which kept it manageable but I'm hoping for better. Trying to get a jump on the bowel "funk" too.

I road the exercise bike after coming home from chemo to push through the Benadryl fog + hopefully help with fatigue. I mentioned that at my PT appt today and she asked if I had spoke to my MO about exercising right after chemo. No, I don't think I did but I thought exercise was good - right? Apparently some chemos need a few hrs in your system before being pushed out to be effective. Has anyone had that come up?

Keep positive!


Diagnosis: 1/25/2012, 1cm, Stage I, Grade 3, 0/1 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2-
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Apr 19, 2012 07:17 PM janiemomof2 wrote:

Hi all,

Tx #2 down! Feeling pretty good but I'm super tired. I guess it's the benedryl they do in the pre-meds. It's a weird tired though b/c I'm also hopped up on the steroids. Not fun. What's really weird is that the metallic taste is already starting! It didn't happen the same day as tx last time, not sure what's up with that but it's so annoying.

Getting a head start on se this time. Been taking claritan for a couple of days ahead of my neulasta tmw and I've been taking colace for a couple of days as well and will do metamucil tonight. Hoping to head off the constipation this time.

Hope everyone is doing well and hanging in there... I just wanted to check in!

~Janie~ wife, mother, nursing student, survivor.
Diagnosis: 1/20/2012, IDC, 2cm, Stage I, Grade 2, 0/5 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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Apr 21, 2012 09:44 AM StayShiny wrote:

Good Morning everyone,

For those that had a recent TX, hope you are having gentle SE's. I tracked my first round and if this time is like last, it will be my crash day. Last night I tried to stay up with my 11 year old but couldn't make it to 10pm. Oh well, at least the house doesn't look any worse this am.

Its a bummer when the coffee doesn't taste right and just when you really need that jolt. I don't want to jinx it but been brushing my tongue with a baking soda + water paste and it sems to be helping some. My MO had mentioned rinsing with salt water too.

Already starting to lose eyebrows and eyelashes. I thought that came later!


Have a great day
BMX 2/20/12 with Lat flap + implants recon; T&Cx4 started 3/28/12
Diagnosis: 1/25/2012, 1cm, Stage I, Grade 3, 0/1 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2-
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Apr 21, 2012 12:24 PM onvacation wrote:

I was hoping to get out and enjoy this beautiful weather today, but woke up with dio and it totally wiped me out!  So it is looking like a couch and jammie day for me!  I am 10 days out from tx 2.  

Hope everyone has a lovely day with minimal SE! 

Kim
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Apr 21, 2012 12:38 PM janiemomof2 wrote:

Kim - what a bummer! I'm day 3 post tx #2 and I remember days 7-11 being particularly horrible with the dio last time. I'm looking at my calendar to see when I will be there again. Unfortunately it's over a few day period that I really can't afford to miss school. So.... this raises a question for me:

Has anyone tried using Immodium for these particularly tough dio days that make it impossible to leave the house???

~Janie~ wife, mother, nursing student, survivor.
Diagnosis: 1/20/2012, IDC, 2cm, Stage I, Grade 2, 0/5 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-

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