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Topic: April 2012 Chemo Starters?

Forum: Chemotherapy - Before, During and After — Regimens, side effects, and support from others going through chemo.

Posted on: Mar 31, 2012 12:24 PM

Buttons2 wrote:

Hi, lets get just the April starters together, what kind of chemo are you having, tips that you may have from an experienced cancer patient & who looses their hair first. Lets give it a fight ladies!!!

DX 2/17/2012, ILC & IDC 1.9 & 1.6. BMX w TE'S 3/6/12. Waiting on port for 18 weeks of chemo then exchange & 5-6 weeks Rads.
Diagnosis: 2/17/2012, IDC, 1cm, Stage IIa, Grade 2, 1/7 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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Apr 26, 2012 03:14 PM Lezza13 wrote:

Hi

I am an April start too.. Nice to find this group. I am on TC too Jaebon.  Had my first on April 2nd and the 2nd round on April 23rd with Neuclasta the next day.  Nice to find you ladies. I took the Claritin the night before and no pain so far.  ReneeTampa. I havd a bilateral MX too on Feb 27 I hope the TC regemin goes easier on you. I am just very tired.  And yes, my hair is thinning.   We have to stay positive and stronger knowling thse treatment will come to an end.

 Stay posted and positive,  Lezza

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Apr 26, 2012 06:51 PM DianeC wrote:

liefie, thank you for sharing your 'hair raising' story! Hahahaha... Seriously though, it had to be traumatic. My hair is becoming a little brittle, but still there. This is day 10 and I just had my labs done. I know I'll be losing my hair. Knowing that so many who have gone through this and been fine gives me the strength to go through this with style!

Diane

DianeC
Diagnosis: 2/7/2012, IDC, <1cm, Stage II, Grade 2, 1/14 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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Apr 26, 2012 09:03 PM SinginCyndi wrote:

Leeza13 and Jaebon I also am on TC had my first round last Wed. the 19th have been been in to the doctors 5 times but I have some sort of infection. Hope there is something they can do about how the neulasta zings me. I go to the nurse practitioner tomorrow morning.

Leeza you haven't lost all your hair yet? and you started the 2nd I was told it'd be gone by my next treatment.

Has the TC treatments gotten better over time?

Adenoidcystic variant
Diagnosis: 2/22/2012, IDC, 1cm, Stage I, Grade 2, 0/4 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2-
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Apr 26, 2012 09:20 PM mamajane49 wrote:

First chemo treatment went very well. very little side effects-  Just really blah feeling on days 3 and 4- couldn't do anything but sleep. I started chemo on April 18 and decided to journal my day.  I remembered that I had my mother's old journal that had some empty pages in it, so I picked it up on the way out.  Once I started chemo, I opened the journal and read the entry dated April 18, 1995.  My mother had written on the day that my dad died of liver cancer being diagnosed only 6 weeks earlier.  He never had the chance at chemo and here I was, starting chemo on the exact date 17 years later. This was indeed a special day for me and I know my dad is looking down on me from heaven and wrapping his arms around me each day.  another thing that made that day special was the fact that my nurse for the day was a former piano student of mine!! I am truly blessed to have hundreds of people praying for me! Don;t worry 'bout nothing' Pray about everything!!

Jane
Diagnosis: 2/17/2002, 3cm, Stage IIb, Grade 2, 1/1 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2-
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Apr 26, 2012 09:59 PM, edited Apr 26, 2012 10:36 PM by eric95us

Sharon's hair didn't last. She had me trim it with scissors to about 1/2 inch long because the falling 'vhair was driving her crazy.

Xena, warrior princess, girding for battle.
......30 minutes later....... I thought I'd smile at the Xena reference. It didn't work. I watched another "Xena" head into a similar battle..

Eric

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Apr 26, 2012 10:36 PM LockeKopp wrote:

I got my 2nd round of chemo today. After I got home I took a nice long 3 hour nap :)
I had to go to the ER Monday, they found a blood clot in my lung.... Did any of you expirence this? I have to give myself a shot everyday now for 6 month!!! I already look like a junkie...


Diagnosis: 3/12/2012, IDC, 3cm, Stage IIa, Grade 3, 0/9 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2-
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Apr 26, 2012 10:47 PM LockeKopp wrote:

Pelicangirl, My thoughts and prayers are with you.)


Diagnosis: 3/12/2012, IDC, 3cm, Stage IIa, Grade 3, 0/9 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2-
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Apr 26, 2012 11:06 PM, edited Feb 15, 2013 07:06 PM by Cottontail

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Apr 27, 2012 03:41 AM, edited Apr 27, 2012 03:44 AM by twostep62

Cottontail:    The Chemo nurse is the only one who has gotten a little "snippy" with me and also over the port.  I had my port inserted in April and the next day went for chemo.     The nurse could not get the thing to work at all.  We ended up with an IV.     After my Neulasta shot I ended up in the hospital for a couple of days and the nurses there could not get it to work either.    My Cancer surgeion had me to go Radiology for a dye test and it showed the port was open all the way to the vein.   When I went  for my chemo yesterday,   they tried the port again.  They couldn't draw blood but they decided to give the chems that way and just picked me for the blood.    I've talked to a  lot of people who have had problems with the ports.

My hair is breaking and falling out now so I think next week my friend is going to shave it.   My scalp is too sore.   I don't get freaked out about the hair (I know it will grow back) but it does bother me about the eyelashes.        Has anyone tried the fake ones?

My friends try to understand what I am going through but only the people in these chat rooms know how horrible Chemo can be.    I've gotten some wonderful tips that I am trying this round.   Thanks to all of you and good luck to all of you.


Diagnosis: 3/12/2012, 4cm, Stage II
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Apr 27, 2012 10:37 AM, edited Feb 15, 2013 07:05 PM by Cottontail

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Apr 27, 2012 02:43 PM Pelicangirl wrote:

Neulasta Horror. Well ladies, it seems like if there is a side effect that goes with AC and Neulasta shots, my body is determined to have it. Recap...first chemo last thurs 4/19 with bad nausea that evening (onc added zofran for breakthrough nausea between compazine dosages and that helped ). Went for Neulasta shot next day. Prepared by taking clariton beforehand and ibuprofen afterward for two days. Felt extremely fatigued thru weekend but started to recoup by mon. Then last nite around 2 a.m. I was awakened by the most terrible bone searing pain in my spine from C1 in my neck down to my coccyx. On a pain scale of 1-10 it was off the charts...way beyond 10... seriously it was so bad I almost called 911. But tried to stay calm and called my oncologists after hours number instead. He said it was delayed severe reaction to the Neulasta shot...told me to take more clariton and ibuprofen...I thought he was kidding...I was nearly out of my mind with pain...but I took the meds and in about 20 minutes the pain eased down to about a 4 then a 3. I went to his office this morning to discuss options...he said there IS no option...that without the Neulasta my white cell count will certainly tank, I will get infections, spike fevers and wind up in hospital.
For the first time since all this all started (mammogram, needle biopsy, double mastectomy, positive lymph node and finding out I would need chemo) I am really discouraged. I have a fairly high tolerance for pain, but this was like nothing I have ever felt before. He told me to stay on the clariton and keep taking ibuprofen prophylactically because there is just no way to know when these Neulasta attacks will occur...but they will most likely happen after every chemo treatment. Is anyone else dealing with this Neulasta horror, and if so, how are you coping? Could use some good advice. Thanks and hope you are all having a better week! Pelicangirl

Pelicangirl
Diagnosis: 12/8/2011, IDC, 1cm, Stage IIa, Grade 2, 1/9 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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Apr 27, 2012 02:57 PM nofear2012 wrote:

I have had 2 treatments of AC (red devil) and cytoxin. The first treatment I bounced back well, but the second treatment I am still trying to find my way back. Really fatigued, slight head ache, and lower back ache. Hair has fallen out and the rest I pulled out. I have to have surgery on Monday to remove my spacer from the BMX because of exposure. Supposed to get my 3 treatment on Wed but I doubt if my oncology Dr will have me do it as I will have a new wound. Minimal SE from neulasta. I have experienced all the SE everyone has talked about from my chemo cocktail. So glad to read about everyone experiences, it helps me with the isolation of going thru this and just knowing I am not alone will carry me thru. Everyone keep going we will make it thru this in time.

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Apr 27, 2012 03:35 PM Sissydi wrote:

Pelicangirl, I had such bad pain in my g.i. Tract after my Nuelasta; I thought it was from the A/C, but my onc nurse said it may have been from the Nuelasta! They upped my Zantac and Pepcid. I haven't been taking Claritin because I've had no bone pain, but I'm going to with my next one for sure!
Nofear, it helps me too with the isolation.........this whole thing is very isolating, why I love the forums:)


Diagnosis: 12/23/2011, IDC, 1cm, Stage IIIa, Grade 3, 5/21 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2+
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Apr 27, 2012 05:10 PM LockeKopp wrote:

I start to take claritin the day I get chemo for about 4 days. I had no Se with Neulasta.

My hair is starting to fall out....I knew it would happened but I was very upset, it did. 

 I hate chemotherapy!!!


Diagnosis: 3/12/2012, IDC, 3cm, Stage IIa, Grade 3, 0/9 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2-
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Apr 27, 2012 06:27 PM twostep62 wrote:

Pelican Girl:   I haven't had the searing pain you describe.     Mine was crushing weight in my chest and I could'nt breathe       Today I had another neulasta and they told me to take ibrprofen and claritin.  I'm alergic to oxycodone and Hydrocone and was told they couldn't give me anything stronger than that and so recommended the ibuprofen.   It makes me feel very fatigued.    I hope you don't have any more of the episodes you describe.....sounds very painful.   Hang in there....


Diagnosis: 3/12/2012, IDC, 4cm, Stage II, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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Apr 27, 2012 06:31 PM twostep62 wrote:

Lockekopp:    I hate chemo but I love life so I know we have to put up with all of this to get back to where we want to be.   Don't get discouraged...you have a lot us going thru it with you and sharing our experiences.      I have a 4cm tumor and a 2cm lymph node I am battling.  I will have to undergo a mastecomy and follow that with radiation.....and hopefully I will make it thru.  We just have a give it our best fight......good luck to you.... 


Diagnosis: 3/12/2012, IDC, 4cm, Stage II, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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Apr 27, 2012 07:33 PM LockeKopp wrote:

I am just having bad day....I'm having issues excepting the fact I have cancer. The whole pulmonary embolism happening did not help me staying positive.

When do you have the mastectomy?

Thanks for replying :)

Life is what happens to you while you are busy making other plans
Diagnosis: 3/12/2012, IDC, 3cm, Stage IIa, Grade 3, 0/9 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2-
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Apr 27, 2012 09:11 PM Pelicangirl wrote:

To LockeKoppe and Sissidi: Keep taking your clariton! My oncologist told me today the bone pain can hit anytime even if you haven't had it from previous shots. Better to keep being Proactive and prepared. LockeKoppe I am so sorry about your hair. We know it is going to happen but that doesn't make it any easier. I am thinking of getting mine buzzed off next week before it falls out on its own to spare myself the trauma of actually seeing and feeling it fall out. My best friend who fought this beast two years ago (she is doing great now BTW) did it that way...she buzzed hers off right before her second AC treatment...said it made her feel in control of the hair situation. She did a close crew cut first..wore it for a few days to get used to it then went ahead and shaved it bald. Think that is what I will do too.
TwoStep62: so sorry you have also suffered from Neulasta. Hope the next shot is not as bad for you. I am glad you mentioned you are having chemo before your mastectomy...sometimes we forget that we all have different journeys with this thing...with some having surgery before chemo and some having chemo before surgery...some having radiation alone or radiation with chemo. The good news is because we are on different paths It offers another way to help each other. For instance when I had My BMX surgery with DIEP/TRAM recon before chemo I remember thinking, "Well after what I have gone through with surgery, chemo can't be that bad, right?" I laugh at myself now bc of course chemo is proving to be just as big of a challenge! And I remember when I was on the Surgery and Recon boards there were ladies there who had had their chemo first and they were echoing similar thoughts like "Well, after what I went thru during chemo, how bad can surgery be?" And of course they soon found out that surgery and all the accompanying joy with drains,etc. was no picnic either! So the truth is that NO PART of this journey is easy. It is long, arduous, and fraught with unexpected difficulties. Thank heavens for the comaraderie on these boards! We continue to educate and support each other and I believe that is key to our success.
BTW: I continue with clariton and 2 ibuprofen every 6 hrs and have kept bone pain at bay since last night. Not sure how long effects of last Fridays Neulasta shot will last...doctor says I will know when I can stop the meds when I don't feel pain begin to return close to that six hr mark. He guessed probably sometime next week. Right now I can begin to feel pain start to creep back a little (2-3 on pain scale) about 5 hrs after meds.

Pelicangirl
Diagnosis: 12/8/2011, IDC, 1cm, Stage IIa, Grade 2, 1/9 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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Apr 27, 2012 09:31 PM LockeKopp wrote:

I'm not sure if I can buzz my hair off. My husband will do it with me, so that might help....

Life is what happens to you while you are busy making other plans
Diagnosis: 3/12/2012, IDC, 3cm, Stage IIa, Grade 3, 0/9 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2-
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Apr 27, 2012 10:03 PM twostep62 wrote:

if all goes well with the chemo,  I should have my operation in August.   I really dread the radiation that follows that  because I've heard it can be extremely painful.    I also have many days when I still have trouble accepting I have cancer.  There is no cancer in my family...I will be the first. 

My best friend is a stylist and will be buzzing my head Monday or Tuesday.  It is just falling out too bad now.   I don't know if I will go with a full wig.....I've seen some cute caps that have bangs and a little hair in back ....I think I will go more casual.

I'm just trying to face whatever challenge I get each day and mark another day off my chemo calendar.


Diagnosis: 3/12/2012, IDC, 4cm, Stage II, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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Apr 27, 2012 10:07 PM twostep62 wrote:

Pelican girl:    Since I have a petty big tumor and a lymph node, they told me having Chemo b4 my operation makes my chances much better.   They hope to kill any floating cancer cells that may be elsewhere in my body and hopefully shrink the node and tumor.   I really haven't talked to anyone about the actual operation.  Did you have a long recovery time and was it very painful?


Diagnosis: 3/12/2012, IDC, 4cm, Stage II, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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Apr 28, 2012 02:51 PM DianeC wrote:

Okay, this is my update. Days 1 and 2...Great! Just tired and nervous. Day 2 Neulasta shot. Day 3, a truck hit me and it lasted for Days 4 and 5. Day 4 my daughter called and got some meds to help with the pain from the Neulasta shot. Day 6 was a day for fatigue and sleeping. Days 7, 8, & 9 I was able to work half days. I felt good in the morning, but exhausted in the afternoon. Day 10 was great in comparison. I started getting tired at about 3 p.m. Yesterday, Day 11 was great. I was my old self. No meds, no pain, no fatigue! Day 12, tooday, has been great! Next chemo is scheduled for May 8. I think I can do this!

 I hope everyone's SE are minimal... good joo joo and vibes coming your way.

 Diane

DianeC
Diagnosis: 2/7/2012, IDC, <1cm, Stage II, Grade 2, 1/14 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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Apr 28, 2012 04:09 PM DianeC wrote:

Pelicangirl, you are one tough cookie! I am impressed that through all your trials, you are helpful and supportive to so many people. Thank you for being there. We all read everyone's posts and take courage and comfort knowing that we are doing this together. We are cancer survivors!

 Love and prayers; good joo joo; good vibes; minimal SEs!

Diane

DianeC
Diagnosis: 2/7/2012, IDC, <1cm, Stage II, Grade 2, 1/14 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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Apr 28, 2012 09:34 PM kjiberty wrote:

Thanks, Ladies, for all the insightful information.  I am doing really well on Day 10 of Round 1.  Have the hair shearing appt. scheduled for Friday the 4th. I am very nervous about it, and want to back out if no hair loss by then (it will have been day 16).  Pelicangirl:  please know you and your DH are in my continued prayers.  I have a Clariton question:  I am scheduled to have my first Neulsta shot the day after Rnd 2 (5/11). For those of you taking clariton--- Do you take the 24-hour clariton?  My MO has suggested tylenol for bone or joint pain, but nothing about clariton.  

Karen
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Apr 28, 2012 09:39 PM Melrosemelrose wrote:

I haven't had a Neulasta shot but here is what I gather from what I have read....

You take a 24 hour Claritin, the day before you get the Neulasta and continue for 4-5 five days.  It doesn't necessarily help everyone but it is worth a shot.

Chemo 4/24/2012Taxotere/Cytoxan X 6 & Herceptin B-47 clinical trial:4/24.5/15.6/5/,6/26,7/17.8/7. DX 2/17/2012 Encapsulated DCIS 4cm/IDC 2cm, ER+/PR-/HER2- (+1), Stage IIb, Grade 3,0/5 Nodes
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Apr 28, 2012 10:06 PM, edited Apr 28, 2012 10:07 PM by SinginCyndi

DianeC I am one day behind you on the treatment. I finally felt great on day 10 and today the 11th I was able to get through the whole day.

PelicanGirl I hope you are feeling better I too had horrible reaction to the neulasta-mine was abdominal though. And intense sweating.

Yesterday I saw the nurse practitioner who prescribed me some kind of steroid to take the morning of my next neulasta one in the afternoon then two the next day.  For the neuropathy and slurred speech,I was told to take 3 b-complex vitamins per day that contain 50 mgs. of b-6. Couldn't find any with that high of concentration so I bought just b-6 to supplement it. I haven't had any nausia in several days. Hope I can sleep tonight without aching hands and feet.

Adenoidcystic variant
Diagnosis: 2/22/2012, IDC, 1cm, Stage I, Grade 2, 0/4 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2-
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Apr 28, 2012 11:11 PM kjiberty wrote:

Melrose:  Thanks for the info.  I spoke with my OC about suplements to take during this time and she recommended only a multi-vitamin, and B-6.  She said L-Lysine was fine, if I wanted to take it.  

Karen
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Apr 28, 2012 11:54 PM, edited Feb 15, 2013 07:05 PM by Cottontail

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Apr 29, 2012 09:38 AM DianeC wrote:

Day 13 is starting out very well. I had been at my daughter's house until yesterday evening as my house has five grandchildren with varying levels of runny noses to strep throat. So last evening we went to our other son's house. I was worn out with moving, but my SEs have not been a problem.

Hair is thinning and sleeping was difficult because my head was cold. I put on a head wrap which solved that problem.

Good vibes, prayers, good Joo Joo, and minimal SEs.

Diane

DianeC
Diagnosis: 2/7/2012, IDC, <1cm, Stage II, Grade 2, 1/14 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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Apr 29, 2012 10:32 AM, edited Apr 29, 2012 10:42 AM by Cottontail

Day 4.... I feel so restless.  I've been getting tired early, and sleeping pretty well, but when I wake up, I'm up, and it's much earlier than I'm used to.  And restless.  Very unusual for me.  Nothing is holding my attention, and it's very annoying.  Of course, since I'm not sleepy, going back to bed is out.

I'm shaky again this morning, hopefully I can eat well again and clear that up. 

On the plus side, my oily broken out face has cleared itself up, lol.  I'll need to make sure I'm moisturizing better now. 

oh these little earthquakes doesn’t take much to rip us into pieces
Diagnosis: 3/27/2012, IDC, 3cm, Stage IIa, Grade 2, ER+/PR+, HER2-

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