Posted on: Jun 9, 2012 06:06 PM
Madison, WI
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kll22 wrote:
I'm curious about what others have experienced in terms of nail loss after chemo. I finished 4ddTC 10 months ago. After chemo, most of my finger and toe nails were affected in some fashion but are now normal except for two - my thumb nail and big toe nail on my left side - the side I received my infusions on. I am in the process of losing the thumb nail for the third time and the toe nail for the second time. Has anyone had a similar experience?
4 ddTC; 28 rads + 5 boosts
Dx 5/6/2011, IDC, 1cm, Stage I, Grade 3, 0/2 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2-
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Tazzy
Westbank, Okanagan, BC
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Jun 9, 2012 07:38 PM Tazzy wrote:
I am on my 2nd to last Taxotere treatment. The put frozen gloves on my hands 15 mins before treatment, changed every 15 mins during and left on fo 15 mins after. When I went for Treatment #2 I asked why they didn't put frozen gloves/socks on my feet as I had lost the 2 nails on the little toes. they didn't hafvfe an answer so put the frozen gloves on my feet... and so far I've lost no other nails. The nail beds are very tender, but so far I have all of the nails. No one has mentioned losing them after treeatment has finished ? Yikes !!
You never know how strong you are until being strong is the only choice you have
Dx 1/12/2012, IDC, 6cm+, Stage IIIb, Grade 3, ER-/PR-, HER2-Surgery Mastectomy (Right)Radiation Therapy ExternalChemotherapy 01/27/2012 Adriamycin, Cytoxan, Taxotere
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Jun 9, 2012 09:25 PM LintRollerDerby wrote:
Hi. I noticed several similarities between us. I was diagnosed on 5/11/11 with TN. I did TC x 4 starting last June and ending last August, so I'm 10 months out from the end of chemo, too. My nails grew quite rapidly on chemo. During treatment, my nails had rings like a tree for each round of chemo and then they also started to lift from the nail beds. I never lost any, though. Mine actually got worse and more painful after chemo ended and I swore I'd lose my left thumb nail (treatment side, but not cancer side), but never did. It got pretty bad two seperate times after chemo, but then got better and then very quickly--out of nowhere--my nails returned to normal (pre-chemo normal). I have some minor neuropathy in the finger tips and a wicked case of arthritis from chemo in all my joints, but it's very pronounced in my finger joints (at age 34 with no previous problem), but my nails returned to their previous state. I'm sorry you're dealing with this. Have you talked to your MO about it?
Diagnosis: 5/11/2011 @ age 34 • IDC • 1.3cm • Stage Ic • Grade 3 • 0/3 nodes • ER-/PR-, HER2- • Ki-67: 76% • p53: 64%
Surgery 04/28/2011 Lumpectomy (Right)Surgery 05/31/2011 Lumpectomy (Right); Lymph Node Removal: Sentinel Lymph Node Dissection (Right)Chemotherapy 06/23/2011 Cytoxan, Taxotere
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Jun 9, 2012 09:26 PM, edited Jun 9, 2012 09:55 PM
by LintRollerDerby
Edited to delete a double post. The site seems to be acting up tonight.
Diagnosis: 5/11/2011 @ age 34 • IDC • 1.3cm • Stage Ic • Grade 3 • 0/3 nodes • ER-/PR-, HER2- • Ki-67: 76% • p53: 64%
Surgery 04/28/2011 Lumpectomy (Right)Surgery 05/31/2011 Lumpectomy (Right); Lymph Node Removal: Sentinel Lymph Node Dissection (Right)Chemotherapy 06/23/2011 Cytoxan, Taxotere
kll22
Madison, WI
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Jun 10, 2012 05:19 PM kll22 wrote:
I have my next visit with my MO in August (yay 1 year!!) and I'll bring it up then. I wanted to use ice but MO said no because I have Reynauld's syndrome which makes my fingers turn white and cold like the circulation has stopped. I too had the ridges on my nails and didn't lose any until Christmas. That started a succession of nail losses on my toes. I'm also experiencing joint pain but mainly in my knees. BC is just one great big roller coaster, isn't it?!
4 ddTC; 28 rads + 5 boosts
Dx 5/6/2011, IDC, 1cm, Stage I, Grade 3, 0/2 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2-
kks_rd
NY
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Jun 12, 2012 07:52 AM kks_rd wrote:
Hi there, I can't help but jump on this thread. I had taxol in August and September of last year and experienced the darkening and loosening of the nails (esepcially toenails, but some fingers too) as well as extreme tenderness. MO said it would take up to six months for everything to kind of get back to normal. The fingers are OK (mostly - still weak and peeling at times but they look decent) but the toenails are a disaster.
Saw a podiatrist today to see if anything can be done to help with regrowth. There has been soe but there continues to be loosening down to nearly the base of the toenail. He took some samples but is treating empirically for fungus -- fungus!!!!! I cannot tell you why but this thought makes me so angry, it's been almost as difficult as losing my hair was. And then I think about how silly and shellow I'm being and that makes me angry in a whole different way. I know it's all a small price to pay for being in OK health otherwise, but BC certainly has proven to be the gift that keeps on giving.
I've heard the ice does help; kind of wishing I had tried it but to be honest, the infusion center was ALWAYS so cold I'm not sure I could have tolerated it. Sorry to hear others have had some of the same difficulties but there's built-in support by virtue of sharing these kinds of experiences.
Hadn't connected the ongoing joint pain to long-term chemo effects. I thought it was related to getting back into a physical activity routine but it doesn't feel like the normal activity-related achiness.
Thanks for letting me share. The good news in all of this is that the tenderness is markedly better than it was during treatment.
~Kat~ Neoadjuvant DD AC x4, T x4; PFC 9/15/11. Partial mx & SNB 10/18/11; reexcised 11/15/11. Rads x30 whole breast, x8 boosts; DONE 2/14/12. Metformin clinical trial 'til 12/2016.
Dx 4/29/2011, IDC, 4cm, Stage II, Grade 2, ER-/PR-, HER2-
SpecialK
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Jun 12, 2012 08:45 AM SpecialK wrote:
I had acrylic nails that I removed prior to chemo. My wedding ring fingernail was injured in the process. I did ice both fingers and toes through my Taxotere infusion, but because this nail had a high tear it did lift. My other nails have no ridges, discolored area or white lines (these are actually called Mees lines, and are a sign of poisoning) so I feel like the icing really does work. I also painted my nails with nail hardener 7 days in a row, then removed it and started over. On infusion day I painted them navy blue or dark gray so that no light could penetrate. The wedding ring fingernail continued to lift almost all the way back to the quick for about 3-4 months PFC. It started turning colors (a distinctly unattractive greenish/brown) underneath so I was referred to the dermatologist. The derm cut the nail completely off, cultured the nail and found both fungus and bacteria. This is not really surprising because the environment under the lifted nail is a breeding ground - semi-covered and warm! I used an antifungal gel and the nail grew back out perfectly, but it took six months. I also lost the right pinky toenail but it grew back almost immediately. I really do recommend icing, I brought my own bags of frozen peas and cooler with my onc's approval - the other nails made it through with no problems.
Dx 9/27/2010, IDC, 2cm, Stage IIb, Grade 3, 2/14 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2+Surgery 11/01/2010 Mastectomy (Both); Reconstruction: Tissue expander placement (Both)Surgery 12/06/2010 Lymph Node Removal: Axillary Lymph Node Dissection (Right)Surgery 12/21/2010 Reconstruction (Left)Surgery 01/07/2011 Reconstruction (Left)Surgery 01/21/2011 Reconstruction (Left)Chemotherapy 02/17/2011 carboplatin, TaxotereTargeted Therapy 02/17/2011 HerceptinSurgery 07/20/2011 Reconstruction: Tissue expander placement (Left)Hormonal Therapy 08/01/2011 FemaraSurgery 02/24/2012 Reconstruction: Breast implants (permanent) (Both)
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Jun 13, 2012 06:01 PM LintRollerDerby wrote:
Breast cancer does indeed seem like the gift that keeps on giving. The neuropathy has gotten worse lately; it's actually starting to worry me now. I'm supposed to have a follow-up at Moffitt this week, but will have to reschedule to next week. I know they'll shrug their shoulders about it because I realize there isn't anything they can do.
The joint pain is--at least for me--definitely chemo-related. I had none of it before diagnosis. Now I feel 75 instead of 35.
I didn't find out about icing until after I was done with chemo. :(
Diagnosis: 5/11/2011 @ age 34 • IDC • 1.3cm • Stage Ic • Grade 3 • 0/3 nodes • ER-/PR-, HER2- • Ki-67: 76% • p53: 64%
Surgery 04/28/2011 Lumpectomy (Right)Surgery 05/31/2011 Lumpectomy (Right); Lymph Node Removal: Sentinel Lymph Node Dissection (Right)Chemotherapy 06/23/2011 Cytoxan, Taxotere
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Jun 13, 2012 06:45 PM Denise-G wrote:
Taxol effects nails as well. I iced hands and feet during treatment and have had no nail problems or neuropathy.
I definitely feel it works. My chemo infusion area is now suggesting it to other women.
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denise4health.wordpress.com/ Dx 10/10/2011, IDC, 6cm+, Stage IIIa, Grade 2, 9/14 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2+Surgery 11/23/2011 Mastectomy (Left); Lymph Node Removal: Axillary Lymph Node Dissection (Left)Chemotherapy 12/27/2011 Adriamycin, Cytoxan, TaxolTargeted Therapy 02/28/2012 HerceptinRadiation Therapy 06/11/2012 External