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  • Posted on: Jul 27, 2007 06:21 am
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CarrieDee wrote:
Figured I would post this as a separate topic so people wouldn't have to dig to find out the information.

What was the best cream/gel used during radiation?

I was just given a sample of Radiogel- has anyone used this?

I tried the Aquaphor and found it sticky and my skin actually felt more itchy after I applied it.

Thanks!

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Cassandra
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 6
Oct 15, 2007 09:21 am Cassandra wrote:

Hello CarrieDee,

I am two weeks out from 28 radiation treatments to left chest wall/axillary nodes with mastectomy. I started with radiogel and was monitored daily for skin changes. It provided good moisture to my skin. I also supplemented with the gel from the aloe vera plant.

When my skin started to "weep", I was switched to Biafine. At the end of treatments, my skin was red and was moist - but no significant pain and it looked like a bad sunburn. One week after completion of treatments - everything became worse. I had huge ulcerated areas, raw exposed skin, yellow-green mucosy drainage, terrible pain. (My daughter said it looked like a big red stop sign!). I was switched to vaseoline covered sterile gauze and Telfa nonadhesive pads and prescribed Tylenol 3.  After one week, the damage has peaked and I have switched back to Biafine with nonadhesive pads. Throughout this whole process, I did expose my skin to the air when possible and washed very gently. 

It does get  better and I hope you find the best skin treatments for you.

Cassandra

tcoffey
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 16
May 29, 2008 02:07 pm tcoffey wrote:

I am 41 years old and to date - a breast cancer survivor! I have two children, ages five and twenty months, a great husband of six years and....recently had a lumpectomy and radiation therapy at Massachusetts General Hospital for my left breast.  The two parts of that sentence should never be together and I am still in shock writing it, let alone saying it - well, c'est la vie.  Life must go on and so I must tell you all about the fantastic cream that I discovered in Hungary last summer and used to stop the crazy itchyness and burning red bumps developing on my chest after each radiation treatment.  My team of radiation oncologists, nurses and radiation therapists at Mass General commented daily on how well my skin held up.

The cream cools and protects the skin remarkably well.  It is made in Hungary by a team of dermatologists, chemists and cosmetologists and formulated specifically to contain non-toxic chemicals, no fragrance, anti-oxidants, nor animal products such as mineral oil and petroleum that can cause cancer.  It contains a unique blend of calendula, honey, avocado oil, and rose petal extract amongst a number of other all-natural ingredients that protect against burns, heal the skin and prevent scarring. As yet, I have not found a cream that has this combination of ingredients that is so specific to the needs of a person going through radiation therapy.

If you are undergoing radiation or would like to try it during chemotherapy (which can also be very drying to the skin), please let me know if you want a free sample.  I would love to know if you enjoy the same benefits that I did (a tan!).

darah58
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 46
May 29, 2008 02:29 pm darah58 wrote:

Hi there,

I know that some of it was just luck, but my skin held up very well through the 30 treatments.  It looked red at the end of six weeks, but that was about it.  I used calendula cream 3/4 times daily (but never less than four hours before tx).  I got mine at Whole Foods markets, but you can also find it online.  I used NatureWorks and Boiron -- they both worked well, it was a question of which was available.  Good luck!

Darah

tcoffey
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 16
May 30, 2008 10:08 pm tcoffey wrote:

Hi Darah,

Are NatureWorks and Boiron or the calendula cream always available at Wholefoods?  I have only seen the calendula cream there.  And also, do you think there is adequate skincare on the market that is formulated specifically for people coping with the side affects of chemo and rads?

Theresa

tcoffey
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 16
Jun 10, 2008 12:08 pm tcoffey wrote: Hi everyone,

I am conducting a clinical trial using the fabulous cream that protected my skin so well during radiation. My radiation oncology team commented daily on how well my skin held up and I would like to see if others may benefit and avoid the uncomfortable side affects that radiation can cause.

The cream is made in Hungary by a team of dermatologists, chemists and cosmetologists and formulated for cancer patients in that it contains no toxic chemicals, alcohols, fragrance, animal products, nor mineral oil and petroleum that can cause cancer. The cream contains a blend of calendula, honey, jojoba oil, avocado oil, and rose petal extract amongst a number of other all-natural ingredients that make it uniquely suited for protection during radiation and from the dryness associated with chemotherapy.

Please let me know if you want to try the cream.

Three cheers for protecting the skin during the healing rays of radiation!

Theresa
therese71
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 4
Jun 28, 2008 12:03 am therese71 wrote:

Hi Theresa,

I am interested in trying the cream from Hungary.  I just started radiation on Wed (3 treatments to date) and am already feeling some heat and my nipple is very tender.  I am only using aloe vera.

Please share how I can get ahold of this cream!

Thanks so much,

Therese

tcoffey
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 16
Jul 7, 2008 10:42 am tcoffey wrote:

Hi Therese,

I was away and am just reading your email now.  So sorry for the delay in my response.  I would be happy to send you the cream I used, just email me your address at Theresa@myradiantlife.net or call me if you like on tel.: 508.380.9300.  Aloe vera was not enough for me and 3-4 weeks is when the burn starts getting uncomfortable.

Theresa

tcoffey
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 16
Jul 9, 2008 09:18 am tcoffey wrote:

Hi Therese,

I just read your other posts and was wondering what your treatment plan is.  Are you having radiation with a lumpectomy or chemo as well?  I am 41, also with 2 kids, 23 mos. and 5 yrs. old and finished up radiation in Feb.  Today, I feel great and am completely changing my diet and running 30 min/day.  Don't be scared, this is just a bump in the road.

Theresa

Lucky
Springfield, Oh
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 15
Jul 12, 2008 03:35 pm Lucky wrote:

Hello everyone

I am halfway through 33 radiation treatments.  My radiation started just 3 1/2 weeks after having bilateral  mastectomys, so I am also still healing from that!  I have not "bonded" with my radialogist as I have with my surgeon and oncoligist so I dont get much feedback from her when I have questions or concerns.  Unfortunately I have always been a sun lover and now am finding that I cannot be in the sun at all....even with my chest covered I start to itch....doesnt help that where I work most time I am not in airconditioning so I sweat.  My radiologist has advised that I can ONLY use aquafor...but it is greasy and sticky and the petroleom base worries me. I am just starting to turn red and my chest has broken out.  I am really worried about burning and blistering as this will affect my wearing a bra ( with those "damn" fake boobs which remind my of the old stretch armstrong dolls from the 80s) and what permenant damage will happen to my skin.  I am looking forward to any help or advise from those of you that have already been through this radiation process and what you did to help yourselves.  Hindsite is a wonderful thing!!

Thanks in advance 

tcoffey
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 16
Jul 14, 2008 03:27 pm tcoffey wrote:

Hi Lucky,

To protect and prepare my skin, I was told to moisturize 2 weeks prior to the start of my radiation which included 23 treatments and 10 boosts at Mass General, Boston.  A list of creams were given to me that included Aquaphor as the "best" for this purpose and Aveeno after that.  Well, not being one to follow directions closely, I only started using creams about 1 week into treatment and Aquaphor and Aloe Vera did nothing to soothe extremely itchy, red raised bumps (I burned around 2-3 weeks into it).  However, the hungarian cream that I bought last summer has calendula in it which is "the best" for burns and helps with healing.  Check it out on the web and let me know if you want me to send you a little sample.  The other women that have written to me are experiencing the same burn relief as me.

The cream should be applied after each treatment and not less than 4-5 hours before treatments.  You can also put it in the frig. and apply it cold for extra soothing relief.  You should use it about 2-3 weeks after treatment as well to help heal.

After more extensive research, I also found that Aquaphor has mineral oil as the main ingredient which has actually been linked to causing cancer in some studies.

Theresa

joni424
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 1
Jul 14, 2008 11:14 pm joni424 wrote:

Hi,

My mom has just started a 33 session long treatment therapy. Her rad onccolgist is giving us free samples of Aquaphor to take but I'm worried that it's not the right option. She has major sutures that can't be broken open. I would be very interested in trying the cream that you have used. Could you give me some info on getting this asap? I hope you are doing well and so appreciate all of the advice. Doctors can be very cold sometimes. Thanks, Joni

billiegirl
Born & Bred in Seattle; lived in Boise since 2006, Id
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 68
Jul 15, 2008 12:14 am billiegirl wrote: This will sound crazy and would not be recommended by MDs. My burns were horrible! Being a retired nurse, I KNOW I broke every rule in "the book", but I tried doing what I was told...which was to use Aquafor or keep the area clean and dry. Phooy! I had exit burns on my neck and back and open, oozing raw blisters  from the neck to belly in front and under my arms and down my sides for 3 months!!! Burns were so bad that they had to stop radiation 1 treatmeant earlier than plan. I made a concotion of the Green Banana Boat Sunburn relief gel(poured out of spray bottle), a big glob of antibiotic ointment and a gob of Diaperine Baby Diaper Ointment. Stired it up in a clean jar and slathered over my burns (took Vicodan or tylenol 1/2 hr before.Covered each open area with a vaseline dressing that I got from radiation onc.) Then wore a clean camisole and let it stick to me.. I had 3  camisoles for the purpose that I washed daily with a little bleach  in the wash and then dried them in the dryer. Pain was unbelievable for the 1st 5 min  after application but it always got better because the Banana Boat had a numbing agent. Never got any infection and eventually healed up, much to my surprise. Its been 3 1/2 years and I hardly even have scars! I know my Onc would have "locked" me up if he'd known what I was doing!    Billiegirl
tcoffey
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 16
Jul 15, 2008 09:34 am, edited Jul 15, 2008 09:35 AM by tcoffey tcoffey wrote:

Ladies,

My heart goes out to you and if I can do anything to help you all avoid these burns or the incredible itchy skin I had, please email me, coffey_theresa@yahoo.com or call me, tel.: 508.380.9300 if you want to try out the cream I used and I will send you a little jar of it.  

Also, read up on calendula, it is a natural herb (marigold pot) and used in Europe for centuries to fight burns.  My husband got a nasty burn at the beach this weekend and we applied Aloe Vera gel from the refrigerator against the hungarian cream that I used during radiation and guess what?  The burned skin where calendula was used was visibly lighter and less painful only a few hours later.  The next morning, the skin was pink where calendula was applied vs. red where aloe vera was.

Theresa

az8n
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 69
Jul 25, 2008 01:53 pm az8n wrote:

I have 12 days to go for my IMRT. 

From 3 yrs ago, I have been using Renew from Melaleuca company and so far I am doing good, skin-wise.  On the consultation day, I asked what the doctor would recommend, if any, in terms of creams.  Response was none so I continued with Renew. 

My doctor saw some redness just last week but no blisters.  No pain on the outside but I can feel occassional pain from the inside (more like shooting pain - doctor said, it was normal to feel that).

On a different occassion, I asked the nurse what cream they suggest but she said nothing in particular, use what you have been accustomed to but to avoid putting anything 4 hrs prior to rads.

I asked about Aquaphor but did not really say that she recommended it, even the rad oncologist.

irishdreama…
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 882
Jul 25, 2008 02:05 pm irishdreama wrote:

I used plain old aloe vera gel, and my PS said she's never seen anyone's skin look so good so soon after radiation. But everyone's body responds differently to everything!

Chemo:4 A/C, 4 taxotere, Bilateral mastectomy, Radiation: 32 tx
Dx 12/22/2006, IDC, 3cm, Stage IIIb, Grade 3, 1/1 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
snowyday
London, On
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 1,463
Jul 25, 2008 02:14 pm snowyday wrote:

Used the clear 100% Aloe Vera Gel, felt really cooling and worked well.

PN
Dx 5/18/2007, ILC, 3cm, Stage IV, Grade 3, 0/2 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2+
donnajrn
Alexandria, Va
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 117
Jul 25, 2008 02:28 pm donnajrn wrote:

I am 19 treatments in and have no redness, sometimes it is a little pink just after the treatment but by the next morning it is normal.  I used udder cream from the start (I know it sounds weird--wait til you read the jar!) and when I started to see some pinkness I put calendula cream on before dressing.(kept a small container in my purse)  The radiologist was very pleased with how good my skin looks.  I also made sure I drank lots of water, I read somewhere that your skin does much better when you are well hydrated.

I agree, each person needs to find the right formula for them.  Looks like there are a lot of options.

 Donna


Dx 4/1/2008, DCIS, Stage 0, Grade 2, 0/0 nodes, ER+/PR+
Gg08
Bonnie
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tcoffey
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Jo_Ann_K
Owings Mills, MD
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 241
Oct 30, 2008 12:29 pm Jo_Ann_K wrote:

Someone posted to use "Alra"  so I bought the deodorant and gel since it was made specifically to prevent radiation side effects.  The deodorant is made with all natural ingredients and has no metals in it. It seems to be working. 

The Alra lotion was created by a dermatologist whose wife went through radiation.  It is supposedly highly recommended by MD Anderson Hospital.  I bought it on www.alra.com and it arrived in 5 days. I'm supposed to use it right after treatment and two other times a day.  I'll let you know if it works, but I can't imagine that it won't.

The cost was very reasonable as well.

Regards,

Jo Ann from Maryland

10/1/08 Lumpectomy Left Breast; 10/22/08 BRCA- ; http://joannklein.blogspot.com
Dx 9/5/2008, DCIS, <1cm, Stage 0, Grade 1, ER+/PR+
tcoffey
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 16
Nov 15, 2008 01:23 pm, edited Nov 15, 2008 01:28 PM by tcoffey tcoffey wrote:

Here is another quote from a patient who was part of the clinical trial to test the Hungarian calendula-based radiation cream that I am now calling My Girl's Radiation Cream during radiation:

"I did burn slightly and used My Girl's Radiation Cream. It worked very fast! My oncologist was impressed with the results. The burns are completely gone. I can't thank you enough." 

 Sara Carter, Charlotte, NC

I have received an overwhelming postive response from other breast cancer patients so you may now buy the cream here at http://www.radiationcream.com/.

For more information on using calendula (marigold pot) to protect the skin during radiation, click on the clinical study conducted by Boiron of France: http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0ISW/is_261/ai_n13654034

tcoffey
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Nov 15, 2008 01:28 pm tcoffey wrote:
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Northstar
MA
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 86
Nov 19, 2008 07:16 pm Northstar wrote:

This is all really helpful, since I'm only on day 3 of radiation and have 30 left!   I have had suggestions from many people of a lot of different things and I bought the following, hoping one or all will work:   Aquaphor, Calendula lotion/oil (Boiron was recommended), Palmer's Cocoa Butter Lotion, Emu oil, and almond oil.    I told my radiation oncologist that I was really worried about the burn, so she is very conscious of it.   She said we could take a break for a few days if necessary. 

The nurse said I should put it on when I come home, before bed (I use the Aquaphor then), and as soon as I get up (my appt. is at 2:15, and she said the lotion should go on six hours or more before it). 

I have been not using soap on that side when I shower, but may switch to baths if necessary. 

Jo_Ann_K
Owings Mills, MD
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 241
Nov 19, 2008 09:07 pm Jo_Ann_K wrote:

Today was the 14th treatment. My skin is very light and from the first day of radiation, my breast skin turned pink. However, the ALRA cream applied immediately after the treatment, after my morning shower, and before bed at night has been a miracle.  My skin is soft and intact. I'm using ALRA deodorant on that side too, which seems to be working and is keeping the tender underarm skin intact as well. I've been using Dove soap, unscented, and it's kept my skin moist as well.  All these things add up. 

10/1/08 Lumpectomy Left Breast; 10/22/08 BRCA- ; http://joannklein.blogspot.com
Dx 9/5/2008, DCIS, <1cm, Stage 0, Grade 1, ER+/PR+
Westie
Ancaster, ON
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 90
Nov 20, 2008 08:36 am Westie wrote:

Had 25 rads and 2 'boosts' so far.  Use a cream called Glaxall, recommend by rad techs.  Chest looks like a bad sun burn with the odd blister--no pain.


Dx 3/22/2008, IDC, 2cm, Stage IIIb, Grade 2, 0/17 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
tcoffey
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 16
Nov 24, 2008 04:24 pm, edited Nov 24, 2008 04:25 PM by tcoffey tcoffey wrote:

Hi Westie,

Here's another breast cancer survivors comments using My Girl's Radiation cream, a calendula-based cream that fights burns, heals wounds and lessens pain:

"I used the cream each day through most of my radiation and the only area that blistered was an area where I had seldom applied the cream because I made the error of thinking that area would not be affected by the radiation.  Several hours after application, the soreness of the blistering ceased and after two days was healed."  Ann Callahan-Spellman

 Let me know if you want to try the cream I used.

 Theresa

Westie
Ancaster, ON
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 90
Nov 26, 2008 09:57 am Westie wrote:

Looks like you are selling something on these boards...I don't feel good about that.


Dx 3/22/2008, IDC, 2cm, Stage IIIb, Grade 2, 0/17 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
tcoffey
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 16
Dec 3, 2008 10:23 am tcoffey wrote:

Hi Westie, I saw that you experienced blistering like I did so I am trying to make people aware of calendula-based creams to protect and heal radiated skin. Here is another bc survivors comment about the cream and a technique she developed to prevent discomfort.

  • Use a kitchen-size Glad bag.  Cut an end off of the bottom of the bag.  Put on radiation cream on radiated area.  Then, slip arm into the top end of the bag and through the opening you've cut at the bottom.  Press the bag against the affected area - the cream will hold it in place.  Now, you can put on a shirt, sweatshirt over it without any friction against the delicate, radiated area.  Good to go. . .
  • I do this in the morning after a shower.  Leave it on for about 5 hours; then, let the area "air dry" for about an hour in the afternoon, and finish up by putting on more cream and a new bag.  Before bed, I do this one more time and wear bag during the night. 

Best cream that's worked for me on relieving the stinging, burning, itching is "My Girl's Radiation Cream".  http://www.radiationcream.com/

Debbie Kotsch Imhoff, Santa Rosa, CA

srissman
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 25
Dec 5, 2008 08:51 am srissman wrote:

I have new silicone implants but have to have have radiation because they found residual DCIS during my exchange surgery.  Anybody out there experienced rads with implants?  susie

rickster
Seattle, WA
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 34
Dec 8, 2008 02:16 am, edited Dec 8, 2008 02:16 AM by rickster rickster wrote:

I have just completed one week of radiation with no major side effects or problems.  When I met with the nurse the first day of treatment, she recommended that I get a special cream designed specifically for radiation patients called Miaderm (it contains both calendula and aloe vera, please see more at http://www.miaderm.com/).  This cream was developed by radiation oncologists specifically for patients undergoing radiation to minimize side effects and promote healing. It costs about $25 per 4oz tube from them, but my doctor made arrangements with one of the Walgreen's pharmacies in Bellevue WA to stock some for his patients (they also sell it for about $25 per tube).  I am not trying to sell this and am too new to the process to comment on its effectiveness, however, since no one had mentioned it, I thought I would throw it out.  It is recommended that you use it 3 - 4 times per day, and can use it up to three hours prior to treatment (my nurse advised that if you order 3 tubes, they will ship it for free and estimated that a woman would likely go thru 3 tubes during their radiation treatment).  So far, I have been applying it in the early morning, then take my tube with me and apply it immediately after treatment and then re-apply it prior to going to bed. 

If anyone else has used this or heard of its effectiveness, I would be interested in hearing your comments. For those that are looking for something to try, I hope this might prove to be a good option for you.

 Wishing you all the very best!  Rickster

Rickster
Dx 7/8/2008, IDC, 2cm, Stage IIa, Grade 2, 0/1 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-

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