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Emmaus, PA
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 183
  • Posted on: Sep 25, 2008 08:09 pm
unique wrote:

Hi Guys ~

Just started on chemo today. After agonizing about options, was offered AC+T, TAC, dense dose AC+T(Avastin), decided to jump ship and do just TC. Just queasy about the heart side effect. Now queasy that doing 2 agents not as good as 3. Altho am not queasy yet, no side effects so far. All went well. TC is Taxotere and Cytoxan.

What chemos are you all on? 

Annie
Dx 6/11/2008, ILC, 4cm, Stage IIb, 2/12 nodes, mets, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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lolmarsha
devine, tx
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 108
Sep 26, 2008 07:54 pm lolmarsha wrote:

 Just FEMARA. no chemo IV's. Not sure why!

always marsha
Dx 4/16/2007, ILC, 5cm, Stage IV, 22/31 nodes, mets, ER+/PR+
Gitane
CA
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 410
Sep 26, 2008 09:04 pm Gitane wrote:

I had AC dose dense x 6.  That was in late 2005.  I think doctors are reconsidering the Adriamycin as you know.  It sure worked for me, but I didn't have a pCR.  I had my chemo before the surgery so I would know if it worked.

Dx 8/18/05, PILC, multifocal, multicentric, G2, N0 (1 micromet) ER+ PR- Her2-
jsudor
elizabethtown, pa
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 8
Sep 26, 2008 11:32 pm jsudor wrote:

I had taxotere and cytoxan,and it killed all my cancer in both breasts!!!!!!!I am 3 weeks out from my bilateral mastectomies,I have no cancer in my body and i am blessed!

janine
Darlene53
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 4
Sep 26, 2008 11:53 pm Darlene53 wrote:

Just finished 4/4 treatments of TC, today!  I'm being treated at the Mayo Clinic. TC, followed by Arimidex is the plan. Because I had two tumors in one breast, I was advised a lumpectomy was not a good option. I chose to have a bilateral mastectomy, which turned out to be the best choice, as they found two more small tumors in the same breast, and markers in the other breast.  I feel very fortunate, as I had very minimal SE from TC (just a funky mouth for a few days). Radiation was not recommended, nor dismissed. It was suggested I meet with the radiologist for a consultation, but after reading about it, I decided to pass. I had expanders put in at time of surgery, and have had no problems so far.
I hope your treatment continues to go well.

Dx 2/22/2008, ILC, 3.5cm, Stage Ib, 0/0 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
Lynn12
Easthampton, MA
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 1076
Sep 27, 2008 06:57 pm Lynn12 wrote:

I had 6 rounds of TC Jan - May 2007.  I had a 7.5cm tumor that was multi-focal.  At the time, I think many women had AC/T, however my Onc didn't want to risk my heart so chose TC.  I know most women have 4 treatments, and the last 2 were really tough, but looking back, I'm glad I had it. 

Lynn
Dx 11/7/2006, ILC, 6cm+, Stage IIb, Grade 1, 0/1 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
karen1956
CO
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 1458
Oct 10, 2008 02:07 am karen1956 wrote:

TAC 3/23 - 7/6/06

Karen in Denver, ILC, stage IIIa, ER/PR+, HER2-,
SherriG
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 3711
Oct 26, 2008 06:07 pm SherriG wrote:

I had TAC x 6 (with taxotere) back in 2004.  I think new research is showing that Adriamyacin isn't all that helpful with ILC.  There is also a new train of thought going around in onc circles that chemo isn't really that effective with ILC and anti-hormonals are the way to go.  With that being said, I had a HUGE mass in my right breast and did neoadjuvant chemo.  At the time of surgery the cancer was "barely discernible".  As much as I hated the TAC I would do it all over again. 

Diagnosed 11/05/04 Stage 3 ILC "Lump is a four letter word!" Sherri
LizM
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 1717
Oct 26, 2008 06:12 pm LizM wrote:

I was also stage IIb with one positive node and did dose dense AC X 4 followed by Taxol X 4 that was from Nov 05 to Mar 06.  I then removed my ovaries and am on Femara.  So far so good.

katiejane
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 203
Oct 26, 2008 07:25 pm katiejane wrote:

I was stage IIa with 3 nodes involved.  My Onc. recommended the A/C but no Taxol.  He said for my prognosis the A/C would be all that I would need as far as chemicals. He told me how difficult the Taxol was on your body and that for me, it was not going to decrease re-occurrence. Adriamycin can cause heart problems-(I even have a PFO,) but they did an Echo on my heart before tx. began just to make sure there weren't any hidden problems.  Chemo was followed with 25 rads.  Good luck to you!


Dx 7/2007, ILC, Stage IIa, Grade 3, 3/28 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
LindaLou53
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 367
Oct 27, 2008 12:46 am LindaLou53 wrote:

I was given 4 rounds of A/C and 4 rounds of Taxol in 2000 for my stage 2 IDC, not knowing at the time that I also had a ILC in the other breast. When my stage 3 ILC was finally detected 5 years later in 2005, my onc opted to give me 6 rounds of Taxotere and also put me on oral Xeloda. I started taking Aromasin during rads and have been on it for 2.5 years now. Will be 3 years NED next month.

Life is not measured by how many breaths we take...but by the moments that take our breath away!
Dx 11/21/2005, ILC, 5cm, Stage IIIc, Grade 1, 23/23 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2-
ittybittyme…
Mount Morris, MI
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 6
Oct 27, 2008 08:22 am ittybittyme wrote:

I had a lumpectomy  followed by dose dense adriamycin and cytoxin x4, had reaction to taxol and switched to 14 sessions of taxotere. The first treatment was tough but the taxotere has been side effect free after the second treatment and I am wodering if I'm not feeling ill is it working...lol am on a 3 week on 1 week off schedual so I start back up with treatment 4 on thurs. My hair is starting to come back in and I feel great. Note I also am stage IIB ILC and a heart echo was done before I started any chemo treatments. After reading this post I feel much better about my course of treatment-thanks ladies! I hope I get the all clear, too.

ittybittyme
Dx 5/19/2008, ILC, 2cm, Stage IIb, 0/0 nodes, ER+, HER2+
celebration…
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 3
Nov 3, 2008 10:01 pm celebrationtiger wrote:

You never should have started chemo.  More harm than good.  Radiation , surgery and AI(aromatase inibitor).  Read Cristifanilli's papers from MD Andersen.

care4us2
Arlington
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 10
Nov 4, 2008 05:40 pm care4us2 wrote:

I had adriamycin and cytoxin also and am cancer free now.  No radiation, had mastectomy

Love is the greatest
priz47
Colorado Springs, CO
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 252
Nov 12, 2008 05:23 pm priz47 wrote:

 I am doing 4 tx of AC. It is a personal decision btw you and your onc. There are many new studies out and hopefully your onc is up-to-date. y onc referred to a confrence she went to and it talked abt the increase of ILC AFTER 5 years- that it expotentiates (sp?) If chemo helps me, great! I don't want to say 'what if...?'

D


Dx 4/22/2008, ILC, 1cm, Stage II, Grade 3, 0/1 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
SherriG
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 3711
Nov 12, 2008 07:01 pm SherriG wrote:

It is my understanding that the taxanes (Taxol and Taxotere) are used when there are positive nodes.  At least that is how is was 4 years ago when I was in treatment.  Could have changed though.

Diagnosed 11/05/04 Stage 3 ILC "Lump is a four letter word!" Sherri
jobu
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 15
Nov 13, 2008 11:14 am, edited Nov 13, 2008 11:16 AM by jobu jobu wrote:

I did the TC combo, because I was afraid of the heart side effect. I had surgery last month and they discovered the ILC was small tumors spread over a 5cm area rather than the 1.7cm the MRI showed. So to be agressive we are going to do 4 rounds of Adriamycin now before radiation. IT seems my ILC could have been a bit resistant to the TC. I don't want to have any regrets for not trying everything. We did a treadmill stress test to see if my heart was healthy to start and will monitor it between each dose.


Dx 5/6/2008, ILC, 5cm, Stage IIa, Grade 1, 0/2 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
Gitane
CA
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 410
Nov 13, 2008 10:29 pm, edited Nov 13, 2008 10:31 PM by Gitane Gitane wrote:

jobu,  You are wise to do the AC I think.  It is so hard to know, and I guess there is never a way to know for sure.  We have to trust what we can learn from our doctors, the research, and our intuition.  With Grade 1 and negative nodes, you have every reason to be hopeful.  Thanks for posting here.  We are all cheering for an easy time for you with the AC and a very bright future.

Dx 8/18/05, PILC, multifocal, multicentric, G2, N0 (1 micromet) ER+ PR- Her2-
Seabee
TX
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 62
Nov 15, 2008 12:30 pm Seabee wrote:

Taxotere + Cytoxin is claimed (now) to be effective for either node negative or node positive, and to lead to longer disease free suvival than the AC combo, which works well for HER2+, but not as well (usually) for HER2-. But these are just generalizations.  If TC didn't work for Jobu, A might.  Lobular is odd in any case in that it seems to be more resistant to chemo than ductal, so whatever works for you, works for you. I'd be very interested in the results of her decision and hope she'll let us know.

Per spem vivo.
Dx 9/9/2008, ILC, 2cm, Stage IIb, Grade 1, 3/23 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2-

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