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  • Posted on: Mar 10, 2009 08:10 pm
Frisco, TX
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 6
theredhead wrote:

I was diagnosed with ILC and will be having surgery on March 24th.  Is there anyone who has Fibro and/or chronic fatigue with breast cancer surgery?  I am taking a lot of medicines right now and live in chronic pain. I am worried about how all this is going to go together.  I don't sleep very well now and from reading many posts here I know what I am in for. Hopefully,I know everyone is unique in healing and I have gone through 7 other different surgeries before I was diagnosed with Fibro and healed quickly. I would just love to find someone who has experienced both to communicate with. You all are heroes to me.

The Redhead
Dx 1/7/2009, ILC, 2cm, Stage I, Grade 1, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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navygirl
Bethesda, md
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 546
Mar 10, 2009 08:45 pm navygirl wrote:

I think Barbe1958 has been through surgery and has Fibro...she has another link about Fibromyalgia if you look for that you will find her...

life is short, play hard
Isabella4
U.K.
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 1,927
Mar 17, 2009 07:00 pm Isabella4 wrote:

Hi Redhead.

I have Fibro, have had it some years, and do the rounds with docs and various tablets. I am also in just about constant chronic pain, but you just learn to adjust things and live with it !  Since bc I seem to have just let Fibro take a back seat. Its there, it doesn't seem to be getting any worse, doesn't seem to be getting any better.

I had surgery for bilateral mastectomy, and also surgery for a port removal, and also for a drain from my mastectomy surgery that was in so long it had grown in, and couldn't be removed by the docs from the outside of my body. ( No doubt when I was asleep they just hitched the drain to a car and p-u-l-l-e-d !! ....I didn't feel a thing ! ) I had no adverse reactions to surgeries, and my healing time was pretty good, in fact I was well pleased with the quick clean healing of the mast. scars, they were red for some weeks afterwards, but nice and clean, no weeping bits. I was a great one for changing my dressings, probably more than I should have done, but I got relief from bathing, and cleaning up the scars. Used loads of Aqueous cream, as advised by nurses, as well.

I was left after my surgery with pain in the 'bad' side arm,from nerves cut during surgery, and was told it would go away, but it never has, and thats pretty bad some days. its sometimes hard to say whether its Fibro or neuropathy from my arm on the RHS of my body thats jangling that particular day !

My 3 wishes , if I were to be granted them would be  Peace  Peace and more Peace from the constant pain in my body. !!! Just one day would be nice, thankyou very much !!

Let us know how you get on and how your healing goes after your surgery on 24th, I will be watching with interest. Remember to stock up with a laxative, the anaesthetics, plus all the pain tablets we take for Fibro can really 'bung' you up. I had big problems in that department, no-one warned me, so take this as a warning now !!!  Good Luck.

Isabella.  


Dx 5/14/2003, IDC, 1cm, Stage I, Grade 1, 0/26 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
sandrawhipp…
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 1
Oct 4, 2009 12:03 pm sandrawhipple wrote:

Dear Redhead,

I have just went through my first diagnosed surgery for breast cancer-Rt side.  I had a lumpectomy that was as large as a woman's fist.  I had a wonderful surgeon.  He did everything possible to save all the outside skin & nipple area.  The results were tremendous!  I too experience the neuropathy, but it is gradually going away--I am about one month out of surgery. 

I have a severe case of Fibromyalgia, and am learning that it has an effect in breast cancer-John Hopkins Hospital in MD.  I avoid several different kinds of food to avoid a lot of chronic pain.  I do very little medication.  I use Tramadol--prescribed by my Fibromyalgia specialist.  It works wonders.  I am careful not to use too much--in time you can become immuned to any medication until it doesn't become effective enough.  I ignore a lot of my pain, but if I use Tramadol, and keep it in my system just enough to take off the worst edge, I actually do not feel pain.  This is the first time I have felt like I could get out of pain, and it happened soon after my cancer surgery.  I am excited that I can live without so much pain.  I have not started treatment yet--I am waiting on the oncotype dx test to determine my treatment.  I only take my bloodpressure meds & the Tramadol. I usually take one tramadol, and then if it doesn't take off the edge, I use one 200 mg Ibuprophen to kick off the remainder.  It works for me.  I like to keep my mind sharp and ready for my work.  I am an artist, and writer.  I am getting ready to publish a music instruction book for college students for January semester.  So, I need out of pain, but functional at all times.  I hope this will help you.  I find that many foods high in starches cause tremendous muscle pain, and I stay away from fats and sugars.  These are hard on Fibromyalgia. I stay away from yeast products such as bread, pasteries, pasta, and rice.  They are not only starchy, and contain much sugars, but most of them contain yeast.  Let me know if this is helpful.  I am trying to do a study with my specialist to see if certain things will eliminate strong chronic pain.  I also understand that Fibromyalgia is a higher risk for breast cancer.  I am hoping I can do definite things that will eliminate the possibility of recurrence of cancer also.  If anyone has information, I would be abliged to know.  Hope this works for you.  Sandi Atkins-Whipple


Diagnosis: 7/21/2009, IDC, 1cm, Stage I, Grade 3, 0/1 nodes, HER2+
Sukiann
Andover, MA
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 288
Oct 4, 2009 08:04 pm Sukiann wrote:

I have fibro.  I'm finding it very difficult to manage the pain now that I am on arimidex (which is known to cause muscle and joint pain)..  Is it the fibro or is it the arimidex.  My pain was more managable before the cancer.  I am taking cymbalta and it really worked before the arimidex.  Have you tried this?  It is an antidepressant but works on pain as well.  I might asked to have my dose bumped up.  I'm on 60 mg and I can be bumped up to 120 mg.  I don't want to take more meds but I'm hurting. 

Sandra - I haven't heard of tramadol.  Can you tell me what kind of drug this is?


Diagnosis: 1/14/2009, IDC, 2cm, Stage IIa, Grade 2, 1/9 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2-
sue_blue
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 319
Oct 14, 2009 07:47 pm sue_blue wrote:

I have fibro and am on tramadol. It is a mild opiate. It doesn't quite do it for me, but it does take the edge off. I had to bump it to three times a day in order to not end up in tears from the pain. The Tamoxifen really compounds the pain. I was on Mobic until my blood work came back showing kidney damage from CT contrast dyes and chemo treatment. The Mobic really did the trick, but can also cause kidney damage.

Susan
Diagnosis: 8/29/2007, ILC, 3cm, Stage IIIa, Grade 2, 4/13 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
mgm42
Wheatfield, IN/Bokeelia, FL
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 43
Oct 25, 2009 05:48 pm mgm42 wrote:

I'm so grateful to all of you.  I thought I was going crazy with my painful muscles, muscle spasms and joint pains.  I switched AI's every several months and am now on a holiday from all of them.  My oncologist suggested that I see a rheumatologist, but I was so sick of being a patient and so convinced that it was the AI's causing my problems, that I opted not to make that appointment.  Well, girls, you've given me hope.  I can go back on my Arimidex and maybe get some kind of meds to help with my burning, aching, hurting, spasming muscles, tendons and joints, as well as those spots that feel like bruises all over my torso, front and back, as well as my arms and hips. Maybe it's fibromyalgia.  I've seen the Lyrica commercials, but never related what I was feeling to what they were showing in those ads.  First thing tomorrow monring, I'm calling my oncologist and asking for a referral, then asking if I can go back on the Arimidex.  You've all put things into perspective.  Thank you, thank you, thank you!  Hugs,  

Marilynn
Diagnosis: 11/7/2007, IDC, 1cm, Stage Ib, Grade 2, 0/2 nodes, ER+/PR+
Sukiann
Andover, MA
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 288
Oct 25, 2009 05:51 pm Sukiann wrote:

Marilyn, what you have described is exactly what fibro feels like.  It is horrible.  I was diagnosed with it a few years ago and the arimidex just makes it worse.  There is hope so get that referral.  I long for the days long ago when I felt really good. 


Diagnosis: 1/14/2009, IDC, 2cm, Stage IIa, Grade 2, 1/9 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2-
mgm42
Wheatfield, IN/Bokeelia, FL
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 43
Oct 26, 2009 10:40 am mgm42 wrote:

Longing for the days before bc is a standard cry in my household.  I just wish that I could feel like I did 2 years ago.  Whatever troubles or worries I had at that time were silly compared to what we all face each and every day now that BC has hit.  We are changed forever.  I'm hoping that once the Arimidex and maybe fibromyalgia are finished with me, I'll be able to get on with my life as I once knew it.  Or maybe it gets good but it will just be a different kind of good.  Let's hope. 

Marilynn
Diagnosis: 11/7/2007, IDC, 1cm, Stage Ib, Grade 2, 0/2 nodes, ER+/PR+
theredhead
Frisco, TX
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 6
Feb 3, 2010 05:42 pm theredhead wrote:

I am finally back posting as I have been so overwhelmed with the fibro, bc, surgeries, and now lymphedema. I came back and read all the posts and found them interesting and sad. that I didn't answer sooner. I never heard that fibro made you more susceptible to breast cancer that was new for me. I am on so many meds right now that i don't have to eat one meal, the meds are enough. Not Lyrica, that was a bad one for me. I am taking Femara instead of Tamoxifen  because I take Cymbalta for pain. But I digress.

My right breast surgery was a mastectomy and it was not so bad but then I developed a hematoma and the next day they had to redo the surgery and that was a downer. My diagnosis changed from stage 1 no chem or rad to 23 lymph nodes taken and 7 showing cancer. I just wasn't emotionally ready for it. The tumor itself was 7c if you took into consideration the spiderlike tentacles. The top was a bit over 2.. Because of the fibro I had decided early on, no implants and I was happy I did. After chemo and many shots of neupogen with critical levels on my blood work I started radiation for 33 days. I was burned badly and the skin was of no use during reconstruction. I had a surgery to transfer my blood vessels from going horizontally to going vertically with an incision across my bikini line and 4 weeks later 3 days before Christmas I had a Tram Flap and an uplift which was difficult and still is to get over. I developed Lymphedema halfway through the radiation and although it isn't very bad I use a flextouch pump 5 days a week to make sure I can control it and wear a garment when necessary. All of this has sent my fibro into awful flareups.and just everyday pain at all the trigger points. My hair is still growing slowly on my head but rapidly on my legs, that's just not right...

I am taking Tramadol (generic for Ultram a pain med)and Soma (muscle relaxer) morning and night, Topamax for the migraines, Elavel to sleep, Cymbalta (120) for pain Amatiza for constipation (the best stuff in the world) and Vicodin  or Percoset for the really bad days.I also take Zocor for cholesterol and Lavaza for Triglycerides.

Of all of this the hot flashes really are the worst to deal with. They don't let you sleep and they feel like little pins stuck all over your body. I tried Amberdeen from the Internet but now with the 5 year med my doc says I shouldn't take it. GREAT If men got these there would have been a cure years ago. Now that my journey is near the end with just one more minor surgery to go and waiting for my hair to grow back, I am finding it hard to find that person I was before. Even the fibro before didn't stop me from doing things, now I feel so overwhelmed it is hard to jump start my body every morning. My husband had a liver transplant and is on SSDI so I am the breadwinner with one left in college,6 kids between us and I raised 2 other stepkids,  14 grandkids and one on the way and 2 great grandkids. There is always some kind of drama going on.

There is new research going on that says fibro may be a virus and many studies are being conducted. We will see, at least it isn't like it used to be where no one believed there was an illness.

 I wish you all painfree days!

(((HUGS)))

redhead

The Redhead
Diagnosis: 1/7/2009, ILC, 3cm, Stage IIIa, Grade 1, 7/23 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
Sukiann
Andover, MA
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 288
Feb 4, 2010 07:45 am Sukiann wrote:

Hey redhead (I have a redhead, she's 16 - Yikes!), I'm sorry you are having such a bad time with the fibro.  Mine seems to have leved off this week.  I think that the lupron shot a couple of weeks ago really aggravated it.  I've been taking glucosomine, msm, and chondroitin (oestobiflex) and it has helped with joint pain.  I think when the joint pain is better, the muscle pain gets better too.  Anyway, you are on so much medication.  Isn't it difficult to figure out what is working and what isn't?  I know you are in so much pain that you'll take anything to make yourself feel better.  What about stopping some of the meds (of course under a doc's care) and adding them back so you know if they work or not?  This would be difficult I'm sure but it may be worth it.  It really sounds like you have your plate full with all the kids - A blessing but stressful at the same time!  Stress does play a part in flares.  I remember when I moved into a new house 4 years ago I flared so bad.  It was a happy time for us with a new house and all but the stress of moving made me flare.  If you could lessen your stress I'm sure it would help (easier said than done, huh?).

Hope today is better.

P.S.  Interesting about the fibro being linked to a virus.  are you talking about he epstein barr virus?


Diagnosis: 1/14/2009, IDC, 2cm, Stage IIa, Grade 2, 1/9 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2-
Angel40
PA
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 60
Feb 4, 2010 10:27 am Angel40 wrote:

hello,

my co worker has fibro and she said the magnesium with malic acid help her a lot.

this is the website for fibro care and other products.

http://www.e-tyh.com/productlisting1a.html

anyone heard about this or ask their doctors?


Diagnosis: 9/4/2008, DCIS, 4cm, Stage 0, 0/1 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2-
benzmum
Vancouver
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 22
Mar 10, 2010 07:56 pm benzmum wrote: Smile Thanks for all the ideas, women-friends! It was comforting just to hear someone else talk about the "burning" pain. Mine's a result of the axilla nerve being cut during my lymph node biopsy surgery, and it feels like the underside of my upper arm is on fire (well, not quite that bad, but fierce anyhow). And I realized how much I missed talking with other fibro sufferers - I haven't made time for ages to join in discussions online.
Mantra
ON
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 334
Mar 11, 2010 01:33 am Mantra wrote:

I've had fibro for 27 years. I did find the BC surgery with TE caused some flareups. My doctors treat my fibro as a sleep disorder stemming from a central nervous system problem. My complete treatment plan involves switching a wide variety of night meds until the right mix is found. I can sometimes take the same pills for a year and everything is fine. Then all of sudden it flares up and I have to play with different doses and meds until I hit the right combo.


Diagnosis: 7/10/2009, DCIS, <1cm, Stage 0, Grade 3, 0/3 nodes, ER-/PR-

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