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Jan 9, 2012 10:25 AM, edited Jan 9, 2012 10:27 AM
by AlaskaAngel
I have to work hard to stay objective about the possibility of using metformin for cancer, but I do very much want it to prove itself one way or the other.
What is so encouraging about this one to me is that thus far it may work for both ER+ and ER- and it may work for triple negs; and in addition, it is inexpensive enough that it is something that would help breast cancer patients throughout the world and not just in developed countries. If it does work, it also could provide additional help in improving one's general physical status, particularly for the elderly, in terms of weight management for those who are not diabetic but overweight.
I'm so glad that trials are being done, and only wish I wasn't so far out from treatment to join in to help provide the answers.
A.A.
Diagnosis: 12/3/2001, IDC at age 51, 1.6 cm, Stage I, Grade 3, some DCIS, 0/1 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2+++, lumpectomy, CAFx6 (refused blood boosters), IMRT rads with rads necrosis, tamoxifen x 1 3/4 yrs, no trastuzumab, no taxane, no aromatase inhibitor, primarily vegetarian organic diet, 1 hr exercise/day; metformin, melatonin, vitamin D3
lollypop59
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Jan 9, 2012 10:38 AM lollypop59 wrote:
i have been ready on here that metformin isgood for breast cancer , well i have been taking metformin since dx with diabetes, in sept 2010.
Diagnosis: IBC, 2cm, Stage IIIb, Grade 3, 7/17 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2+
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Jan 18, 2012 05:41 PM fluffqueen01 wrote:
Hi all, I thought I would chime in as I went through all the prep for the study in Indianapolis. First, they will look at your stats. If you meet the basic requirements, which are
If the tumor is less than a cm, it has to be in your nodes
If it is bigger than a cm, it doesn't have to be.
Then they bring you in and you complete the folowing.
You have to start the study within one year of diagnosis.
It is ok to still be on herceptin and tamoxifen
They will bring you in, you fill out a survey about lifestyle, eating habits, etc.
Then you have blood work and a lung -xray.
Then they will give you a giant jar of pills.
In my case, they didn't realize until I had everything done and the pills in my hot little hand, that one part of my tumor was .8 cm, which kicked me out.
In talking with my pcp about it, I gave hiim the study. He said that metformin is so cheap, he could prescribe it for me, and I could fill it and not run it through my insurance. I filled the first script at Walmart for $4, and just learned I can get it free at our local Marsh as part of their diabeteic program. I am going to check into that tomorrow.
So I am conducting my own personal study. Dr. Miller at the IU Med Center was very positive about it.
BMX 2/11 TE recon, taxol/herceptin weekly -12 weeks-done!. TE’s removed May 4th –boo! Herceptin until March 2012/Tamoxifen. TE’s replaced and the Twins arrived November 4th…cute and perky!
Diagnosis: 1/2011, IDC, <1cm, Stage I, Grade 2, 0/2 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2+
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Jan 21, 2012 07:44 AM starella wrote:
www.medicalnewstoday.com/relea... great news
Diagnosis: 9/8/2010, IDC, <1cm, Stage I, Grade 3, 0/2 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2+
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Jan 21, 2012 03:38 PM 1skifreak wrote:
Hi, I am new to this post. I go in Friday for the lab work. Then, if all looks good I will get my large jar of pills the following week. This study is a Phase III randomized trial (double blind study) of Metformin Vs Placebo. It is an international study with people from Canada, US, Britian, France and not sure where else. My understanding is that this is the final phase of the study (well at the end of the 5 years or so and when data is compiled) but I could be wrong. I have a friend that is a PharmD. We talked at great length about this before I decided to join. Wondering if I will get the real deal or not.
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Jan 21, 2012 03:43 PM Ralston wrote:
I got my Metforming/Placebo 20 days ago. Good luck!
DX @ 43 years old S/P UMX with TE on 6/16/2011. ALND on 7/1/2011.LE on 7/20/2011. 4X AC (7/19/2011-.8/30/2011). 12X Taxol (9/14/2011-11/29/2011). Tamoxifen 12/19/2011.
Diagnosis: 4/6/2011, IDC, 1cm, Stage IIa, Grade 3, 1/23 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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Jan 21, 2012 06:45 PM starella wrote:
Hi, Ive had alot of gi issues with metformin...i think this side effect is very common.
Diagnosis: 9/8/2010, IDC, <1cm, Stage I, Grade 3, 0/2 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2+
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Jan 25, 2012 11:30 AM herta wrote:
Hi all. I started on metformin/placebo trail on Jan 19th. A little nausea after I took my third tablet with lunch, less than 24 hrs after taking the previous tablets with my evening meals. In order to participate in the trial, I'm giving up jaio-gu-lan tea (aka immortality tea) because it can affect insulin pathways: www.ehow.com/about_6468881_jia...
Diagnosis: 6/2/2011, IDC, 1cm, Stage Ib, Grade 1, 0/1 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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Feb 2, 2012 04:47 PM Wendyspet wrote:
Hey ladies--I am considering joining this trial. Questions for you:
1. Would your recommend, is it do-able in terms of time requirements and side effects?
2. Does your insurance company care at all?
...and anything else you would like to mention. Thanks!
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Feb 2, 2012 07:13 PM youngmama wrote:
I started Metformin about a week ago. I think I got the placebo. No side effects at all and the pills don't taste anything. Do yours have a bitter taste?
Chemo ended June 2011: TaxotereX3/FECX3, Unilateral MX July 2011, Radiation ended Oct 2011, Currently on Tamoxifen and Herceptin. Diagnosed at 36 yrs old
Diagnosis: 3/8/2011, 6cm+, Stage IIb, Grade 2, ER+/PR+, HER2+
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Feb 2, 2012 07:17 PM kks_rd wrote:
Hi Wendyspet, I would definitely recommend from a time point of view. Initial commitment is about 1-2 hours and all the follow-ups are intended to coincide with your regular follow-ups. SEs were quite do-able for me, so much so that I think I might be in the placebo group.
Not sure what insurance says about it. I'm not sure if they even know! The pills were supplied by the hospital pharmacy.
Compared with everything we've been through, BC-wise, this is easy in my opinion.
Kat
Diagnosis: 4/29/2011, IDC, 4cm, Stage II, Grade 2, ER-/PR-, HER2-
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Feb 2, 2012 07:36 PM Ossa wrote:
I started the metformin study in late Dec. Still got 6 Herception treatments left as well as started Tamoxifen med Dec.
Pretty sure I am getting Metformin as my DH is type 2 diabetic and is on Metformin.. He tasted one of my pills and said it tasted just like his.. Plus I has more frequent bathroom trips as well as a lot "gassier" for a few days
Today is the first day of the rest of your life
Diagnosis: 4/7/2011, IDC, 6cm+, Grade 3, 0/7 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2+
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Feb 2, 2012 08:11 PM, edited Feb 2, 2012 08:13 PM
by Ralston
I took mine once without food and I got so sick (nausea, etc), other than that I haven't noticed anything different. Taste???? I have not tasted mine. What is the difference in taste between the placebo and the meformin?
DX @ 43 years old S/P UMX with TE on 6/16/2011. ALND on 7/1/2011.LE on 7/20/2011. 4X AC (7/19/2011-.8/30/2011). 12X Taxol (9/14/2011-11/29/2011). Tamoxifen 12/19/2011. Rads began 1/23/2012.
Diagnosis: 4/6/2011, IDC, 1cm, Stage IIa, Grade 3, 1/23 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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Feb 2, 2012 10:43 PM fluffqueen01 wrote:
Even if they didnt give you the pills, metformin is so cheap there is no reason to run it through your insurance. Walmart as it dor $4, and a local grocery store gives it away where I live, as part of their diabetic program.
BMX 2/10 w/TE, Taxol 12 wks/herceptin- 1 yr/tamox, TE’s fail/TE’s back in. Implants Nov. 4th- perky!" “It isn't for the moment you are struck that you need courage, but for that long uphill climb back to sanity, faith and security.” Anne M Lindbergh
Diagnosis: 1/2011, IDC, <1cm, Stage I, Grade 2, 0/2 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2+
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Feb 3, 2012 09:58 AM herta wrote:
If you don't like the side effects, you can drop out of the study at any time. My thought was join while I'm eligbile. I'm committed to trying it out, that's all. I haven't ramped up to the full dose yet but if the side effects are nasty (or if I really think I'm on the placebo), I will drop out and go back to drinking jiao-gu-lan tea which also affects insulin pathways.
Diagnosis: 6/2/2011, IDC, 1cm, Stage Ib, Grade 2, 0/1 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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Feb 3, 2012 02:19 PM, edited Feb 3, 2012 02:20 PM
by Babs37
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Diagnosis: 8/26/2010, IDC, 4cm, Stage II, Grade 3, 2/7 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2-
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Feb 18, 2012 10:34 AM, edited Feb 18, 2012 10:37 AM
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Feb 18, 2012 10:37 AM kks_rd wrote:
Bump.

~Kat~ DD AC/T, PFC 9/15/11. Partial mast &SNB 10/18/11, reexcision 11/15/11. Rads x30 whole breast, x8 boosts, DONE 2/14/12. Metformin clinical trial 'til 12/2016.
Diagnosis: 4/29/2011, IDC, 4cm, Stage II, Grade 2, ER-/PR-, HER2-
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Feb 18, 2012 09:45 PM fluffqueen01 wrote:
My only side effects were the intestinal issues, and in my case, it turned out to be a blessing. I was having problems with fissures left over from my chemo/surgery/pain med months. I could not get everything healed up. The intestinal issues kept everything "going easily", lol, so all the other problems healed up.
BMX 2/10 w/TE, Taxol 12 wks/herceptin- 1 yr/tamox, TE’s fail/TE’s back in. Implants Nov. 4th- perky!" “It isn't for the moment you are struck that you need courage, but for that long uphill climb back to sanity, faith and security.” Anne M Lindbergh
Diagnosis: 1/2011, IDC, <1cm, Stage I, Grade 2, 0/2 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2+
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Feb 27, 2012 01:12 PM NavyMom wrote:
Thanks to everyone for posting such great information regarding metformin. And thanks to all who are participating in research studies.
I decided to call my Onc today and ask her opinion about Metformin and if she would be willing to prescribe it. Her nurse(I think...could have been a tech) retruned my call. The answer was NO. Onc will not prescribe until the Universities are finished with studies and results are available. I am not satisfied until I speak with the Onc myself. My 6 mo f/u appt is not until the last week of April. BUT I have an ace in my pocket......I have an appointment with my cardiologist in March. He manages my Blood pressure meds. He also did some blood work back in December to check for diabetes. My Hgb A1c was 6.0. (normal is 4.2 to 5.8) So I will go armed with printed info on Metformin and ask him to precribe it. If that doesn't work I will see my ob/gyne in May. He has taken care of me for the past 11 years and has seen my through other serious issues in addition to BC. He is great listener and repects and listens to what I have to say.
BMX with recon
Diagnosis: 5/27/2009, IDC, 2cm, Stage IIa, Grade 3, 3/17 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2-
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Feb 28, 2012 07:13 AM, edited Feb 29, 2012 11:09 AM
by Fighter_34
Good for you NavyMom. I like the fact that you are being in charge of your decision. Doesn't mean it will be our cure drug, but if it is effective and safe I don't see why not.
I have completed my first six months other than GI issues everything is going okay. I truly hope it offers some benefit for TNegs since we have no form of follow-up care beside regular check-ups.
Prevention is the real CURE!
Diagnosis: 8/30/2010, IDC, 1cm, Stage I, Grade 3, 0/1 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2-
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Feb 29, 2012 07:40 AM riley08 wrote:
This is my first post but I have been reading all the responses regarding the drug Metformin with interest. My GP also prescribed Metformin for me after my Oncologist said no. Is anyone telling their Oncologist that they are taking Metformin if is wasn't prescribed by them?
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Feb 29, 2012 08:15 AM Ossa wrote:
riley
I would tell my oncologist. It is important they know all your meds..
Today is the first day of the rest of your life NED Dec 2011
Diagnosis: 4/7/2011, IDC, 6cm+, Grade 3, 3/7 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2+
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Feb 29, 2012 09:52 AM AlaskaAngel wrote:
I would want the onc to provide me with very specific supporting information documenting why he refuses.
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Feb 29, 2012 11:31 AM riley08 wrote:
Thank you Ossa, I am going to give her a call and let her know that I am starting the drug. I am not sure how she is going react through.
AlaskaAngle Excellent idea. The only reason she gave was that drug is still in the clinical stages and the final results aren't known yet. When I brought all my supporting documents to my GP (same ones I brought to the Oncologist) he took the time to read them and do his own study, and determined Metfomin appeared very promising and gave me a prescription.
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Feb 29, 2012 02:07 PM Paintingmywaythru wrote:
Well I was told I am not eligible for the study becuse I am triple negative and have had chemo and am NEd right now....well isn't that the point...and my onc won't prescribe becuase "There is no evidnece as yet that this is effective" so I am going ot my PCP. I have printed out soem things but if anyone has a link to an article that you think really spells it out, please post or PM me as I am overweight and maybe this drug would help in 2 ways.....rather annoyed. The only study I was eligible for was a phone support one and then I said yes and they screened me out as too "active" a lifestyle....what does that mean..I do yoga twice a week and walk 2 to 3 tiems a week...no athlete here.
My gosh...frustrating!!!!!!!
Susan
Diagnosis: 5/26/2011, IDC, 1cm, Stage I, Grade 2, 0/1 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2-
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Feb 29, 2012 02:22 PM AlaskaAngel wrote:
paintingmywayout,
There are a number of different trials for this that were started, beginning in 2009, in case one of them fits you better? 16 came up when I used metformin and breast for search words on clinicaltrials.gov:
clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/results...
I am 10 years out and triple pos but I am not sure what that connection has to do with it.... I do know that using a very very low dose off-label has made a real difference in my life. It hasn't brought about weight loss but I was down to the torture of counting every grape I ate and still gaining weight, before I started the metformin. I still have to limit my diet more than most people ever do, but at least now it is less of a nightmare for me.
A.A.
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Feb 29, 2012 03:23 PM Paintingmywaythru wrote:
Thanks Alaskaangel many of htese are from Canada and the UK...I was trying for a U.S. study but if I get no hwere I will go to the link on the first page where people are buying it ...tired of others controlling our destiny! But I know this is only a possibility based on retrospectively looking back at diabetics and the percentage that got breast cancer. I did get a call back today from 2 places but both said because I am triple negative they are not accepting me....
Thank you again. I appeciate your thoughtfulness.
Susan
Diagnosis: 5/26/2011, IDC, 1cm, Stage I, Grade 2, 0/1 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2-
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Feb 29, 2012 05:38 PM kks_rd wrote:
Susan, I'm confused. I'm triple negative and was accepted into the US study without any trouble. This is the one: www.cancer.gov/clinicaltrials/...
Hope this helps. Good luck!
~Kat~ Neoadjuvant DD AC x4, T x4; PFC 9/15/11. Partial mx & SNB 10/18/11; reexcised 11/15/11. Rads x30 whole breast, x8 boosts; DONE 2/14/12. Metformin clinical trial 'til 12/2016.
Diagnosis: 4/29/2011, IDC, 4cm, Stage II, Grade 2, ER-/PR-, HER2-