Dear All, (and Layne are you there?)
Got my Tamox today and will start in a week. Where are my tamoxi pals? It says weight loss for one of the side effects. Now that's a good thing. Basha
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jackiebrown
Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 39 |
Dec 2, 2007 06:49 pm
jackiebrown wrote:
Thanks awb, my symptoms so far have been really mild and I hope it continues this way. Achiness has been the worst of it but maybe that's left over from chemo too.
Dx 5/29/2007, IDC, 2cm, Stage IIa, Grade 3, 2/8 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- |
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honeygirl Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,787 |
Dec 2, 2007 07:14 pm
honeygirl wrote:
Hi ladies , Heather , Jacki and Jackie , lovely to meet you. I think there is a connection between achey joints and tamox. I notice it too. Oh Jacki , I know what you mean about ripping you top off. I have taken off my nightgown when they hit , and after its over , I couldn't find my ng and I was cold!lol I'm on effexor too. I am still getting some , but not as bad. Well girls have a great evening.xxx Melody Dx 2/20/2007, IDC, 2cm, Stage I, Grade 2, 0/3 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- |
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Cynthia1962
Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 716 |
Dec 2, 2007 07:21 pm
Cynthia1962 wrote:
Harley - yes, I'm having achiness, but I had it before I started the Tamoxifen so it could still be from chemo. My fingers are stiff and achy at night, but get better during the day. I do think I may be developing insomnia, but I'm not sure if it's the Toprol or the Tamoxifen. I'm leaning toward the Toprol because it was right around then that it started. I'm having more of the RLS, too. Anyone feeling fatigue that they think is due to the Tamoxifen? I just don't know what to attribute it to. I seriously want to stop taking the Toprol, because I just don't know what side effects it's causing, but I suspect it's the insomnia and RLS. Take care everyone and welcome aboard all our newcomers! Cynthia Dx 1/11/2007, IDC, 2cm, Stage IIIa, Grade 2, 4/18 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- |
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jackiebrown
Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 39 |
Dec 2, 2007 07:23 pm, edited Dec 2, 2007 07:25 PM
by jackiebrown
jackiebrown wrote:
Hi Melody, I find I sleep with a pile of clothes under my pillow so I can strip/add when needed, also easy to find there! I always have my knit cap and socks handy. Also, during chemo I used to carry a paper fan in my bag when I went out and it really helped cool me off. It was a fabulous red paper one, may have looked a bit eccentric but really did the trick. Hot flashes for me now are milder, it may help that the weather is colder! I can't seem to get rid of achy ankles though ...
Dx 5/29/2007, IDC, 2cm, Stage IIa, Grade 3, 2/8 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- |
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honeygirl Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,787 |
Dec 2, 2007 07:25 pm
honeygirl wrote:
Hi Cynthia , you know , about a month after my last tx of chemo , my energy level was back as good as new. But after I started tamox. I noticed I felt fatigued. Its not real bad , but not as energenic as I was. Is fatigue listed as a SE? Dx 2/20/2007, IDC, 2cm, Stage I, Grade 2, 0/3 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- |
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Cynthia1962
Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 716 |
Dec 2, 2007 08:16 pm
Cynthia1962 wrote:
Honeygirl - yes, fatigue is listed as a side effect, but I don't think it's one of the more common ones. Like you, my fatigue isn't bad, but it's enough that I'm spending more time sitting on the couch than I'd like. Cynthia Dx 1/11/2007, IDC, 2cm, Stage IIIa, Grade 2, 4/18 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- |
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Harley44 Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 4,181 |
Dec 2, 2007 08:16 pm
Harley44 wrote:
Cynthia, I have been feeling more fatigue, too, but my thyroid is off again. I'll be seeing my primary care dr. on Thursday, so I will find out if I need a dose adjustment on the Synthroid. Thanks for confirming the achiness may be from the Tamoxifen. It is getting colder here, so maybe I'm just noticing the aches and pains more, due to the cooler weather. Harley |
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Harley44 Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 4,181 |
Dec 2, 2007 08:18 pm
Harley44 wrote:
Debbie, Hi there, and welcome to the T. train! Best wishes, Harley |
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Cynthia1962
Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 716 |
Dec 2, 2007 08:22 pm
Cynthia1962 wrote:
Harley - the weather could be a factor. My onc told me to try to keep my joints warm so I sometimes sleep with gloves, but my fingers are still stiff. I did experience sore muscles and all around achiness after taking the kids downtown one night to the tree lighting ceremony, and the only thing I can think of was the cold even though I felt warm enough at the time. I think the colder weather is helping me have less hot flashes, at least. I'm sorry to hear that you're feeling more fatigued, too. My thyroid results were normal, so I can't blame it on that. I wish I could stop the Toprol just to see if I feel better. I'll wait to see what my dr says later this month. Cynthia Dx 1/11/2007, IDC, 2cm, Stage IIIa, Grade 2, 4/18 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- |
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Harley44 Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 4,181 |
Dec 2, 2007 08:27 pm
Harley44 wrote:
Cynthia, None of this stuff is easy, is it? I sure wish we didn't need to take so many different medications. I wish you could stop taking the Toprol, too. You noticed these other se's after adding it, so that is probably the cause. Pretty soon, I'll need an entire notebook just to list all the different medications that I take daily, whenever I see a new dr.! Here's hoping that our fatigue issue will resolve itself soon! Harley |
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my3girls Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 3,493 |
Dec 3, 2007 07:59 am
my3girls wrote:
<table height="100%" width="100%"><tbody><tr height="100%" width="100%"><td height="250" width="100%"> I too have some achiness in my legs and arms. I have had this before Tamox..so not sure if it is a s/e. I haven't really noticed weight gain, but I have noticed not being able to lose it! I have cut back my calorie intake, started running again, and really am watching everything I put in my mouth!! Very fustrating! Not sure if it is a s/e of tamox...or could be my age (47) and the fact that I have been thrown into menapause. Jackie...I too sometimes I am moving like an 80yr old instead of my age!! In the morning getting up..just walking across the room...my ankles, feet, legs...hurt..until I get moving. I truly hope this getts better! My sleep has not been very good either. I have a hard time falling and staying asleep! Oh...got to love this!! haha xoxo Lisa </td></tr><tr><td height="1"></td></tr></tbody></table>Worry is for "shit"! Live, Laugh, Love!
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hlg2314 Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 48 |
Dec 3, 2007 08:42 am
hlg2314 wrote:
I was feeling tired and worn down also. I started taking One A Day vitamins for energy. They help. Is anyone else taking a Calcium Supp as well? Also, just an FYI if anyone is on any type of cholesterol meds-can cause joint ache. Fatigue can also contribute to joint ache as well. Take care, Heather Heather
Dx 10/27/2007, DCIS, 1cm, Stage II, 1/17 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2- |
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prayrv Joined: May 2007 Posts: 662 |
Dec 3, 2007 11:54 am
prayrv wrote:
Good morning ladies, I started my tamoxifen in early October and so far my only se's seem to be insomnia (waking up one time per night for a week), warm feelings during the day - I wouldn't call them hot flashes yet, and a few episodes of night sweats. We'll see how it progresses as the years go by. sigh Hope all are well. Take Care Trish Failure is NOT an option - NASA
Dx 4/27/2007, IDC, Stage I, Grade 2, 0/3 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- |
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awb Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 2,764 |
Dec 3, 2007 12:10 pm
awb wrote:
I have mild hot flashes, insomnia, and achiness, all annoying but tolerable. Have been on tamox for 4 years. My oncologist says tamox "doesn't cause achiness, the AIs do", but my gyn and pcp disagree and say it definitely can be contributing to my aches and pains. Maybe I'lll see a difference when I finish the tamox (unless I go on something else and then it will be difficult to tell for sure), but some of the achiness could just be menopausal (lack of estrogen to lubricate the joints) and getting older. |
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karol61 Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 161 |
Dec 3, 2007 12:13 pm, edited Dec 3, 2007 12:20 PM
by karol61
karol61 wrote:
Awb, Glad you've stayed with Tamox, I intend to take it for at least 5 yrs. I do not want BC to recur nor do I want my bones to thin. Sorry about the increased belly fat. I've had it since my hysterectomy in 1983. I exercise regularly and do yoga BUT some belly fat is always there. . Everyone no matter how mean or despicable has a positive side Dx 3/22/2007, DCIS, 1cm, Stage 0, Grade 2, 0/0 nodes, ER+/PR+ |
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karol61 Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 161 |
Dec 3, 2007 12:23 pm, edited Dec 3, 2007 12:23 PM
by karol61
karol61 wrote:
Harley, Yes,i feel like a branch of CVS with all the meds inside me. I guess we all have to deal with it. Everyone no matter how mean or despicable has a positive side Dx 3/22/2007, DCIS, 1cm, Stage 0, Grade 2, 0/0 nodes, ER+/PR+ |
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JapanLynn Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 472 |
Dec 3, 2007 04:10 pm
JapanLynn wrote:
Good morning, ladies-- I've now been on tamox. for a month. Night sweats are increasing, and yesterday I noticed more hot flushes (rather than flashes) during the day. The weather has turned a little cooler here, and I tried turning on the heat at school...immediately I was dying, but when I turn it off I'm cold. Oh, well...if this is as bad as it gets, I can't complain. I like the idea of having a change of clothes under the pillow...sounds like a plan! I'm taking a calcium/magnesium supplement twice a day, as per my onc. Also, glucosamine chondroitin for joints--it helps with the pain. Still waiting to hear from my onc. on whether to continue the prozac--from what I've been reading on this board and elsewhere, most drs. say don't take prozac and tamox., but some say it doesn't matter. Re: paper fans--they're all the rage here in Japan, and have been for thousands of years. I fit right in to the local culture. :-) Take care...Lynn Dx 7/30/2007, IDC, 1cm, Stage Ia, Grade 3, 0/2 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- |
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Harley44 Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 4,181 |
Dec 3, 2007 05:31 pm
Harley44 wrote:
karol, I see we both were dx'd in March 2007. Must be a popular month!
Harley |
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MtnMama Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 134 |
Dec 3, 2007 05:55 pm
MtnMama wrote:
I started my Tamoxifen the Sunday after Turkey Day (I figured I didn't want to spoil it with side effects) ... but none have appeared yet! *knock knock* I had hot flashes post chemo until about a month ago, and I've had joint pain since about a month post chemo, so I can't attribute the joint pain to the Tamoxifen (but boy do I feel like an old lady getting in and out of the car!) If the hot flashes return I guess I know what they're due to. I sure hope they don't though! I took Benedryl to help me sleep through chemo hot flashes (on advice of my onc). Worked great! Dx 4/2/2007, IDC, 1cm, Stage I, Grade 3, 0/2 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- |
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jacki45 Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 4 |
Dec 3, 2007 06:19 pm
jacki45 wrote:
Hi Jackie (from England !) My first symptoms were nausea and extreme fatigue. But they went after a couple of weeks. The joint pain, forgetfulness, lack of concentration, and the occasional hot flush came later. Had a couple of night sweats but they went - thank goodness. Everyone's different so don't worry! There's some side-effects I haven't had. Would have liked to have passed by the weight gain, but hey-ho!! I'm from Surrey. Where are you? Hi to everyone else. I lived in the US for 12 years and went to college and got my teaching degree while I was there. Anyway, off to take that lovely little white pill we're all so fond of.... Jacki xx |
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CrystalCat Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 318 |
Dec 3, 2007 06:21 pm
CrystalCat wrote:
Hi there! I'm hopping aboard the Tamoxifen Train! I started mine in the first week of November. I don't know whether to attribute my side effects to chemopause (I'm 44 and this is likely it for my periods) or the Tamox. I get hot flashes, have been a bit stiff and creaky in my joints, and I'm also wearing my "cranky pants" a lot more these days. And I am gaining weight in the stomach area. However, all this is a small price to pay for the cancer not recurring. I'm hoping an exercise program will get me back in shape and feeling more energetic. There are two means of refuge from the miseries of life: music and cats. - Albert Schweitzer
Dx 2/1/2007, IDC, 2cm, Stage IIb, Grade 2, 3/25 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- |
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Bayyyy Joined: May 2006 Posts: 1,311 |
Dec 3, 2007 07:33 pm
Bayyyy wrote:
2 weeks after starting, I had insomnia for a week--no sleep whatsoever--just stayed up all night. I started taking melatonin and an ativan about an hour before the tamox and that fixed it. Other than that, The first 2 bottles went amazingly well with only mild hot flashes and leg bone achiness. Into the 3rd bottle, I started headaches, heavy fatigue and some nausea because of reflux, I think. Oh and easy tears and crankiness and lots of short term memory loss. Sigh. I'm going to *try* to continue on at least 8 months even with these symptoms. My onc said the problems may resolve by 6-8 months. *crossing fingers* |
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jackiebrown
Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 39 |
Dec 3, 2007 07:51 pm
jackiebrown wrote:
Hi Jacki (from Surrey), I'm in London so not too far! Thanks for the description of your symptoms, glad to hear the fatigue doesn't necessarily persist.
Dx 5/29/2007, IDC, 2cm, Stage IIa, Grade 3, 2/8 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- |
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ShannonM Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 34 |
Dec 3, 2007 08:14 pm
ShannonM wrote:
Hello ladies....I've been on tamoxifen for almost 8 months and I did not have to have chemo....just lumpectomy and radiation. I do have hot flashes but they seem to be less frequent these past couple of months. I put off even starting the tamox because my mom had such terrible joint pain from taking it several years ago...she had a limp for the last 2 years on it! (She also had only lump and radiation.) She has been just fine since stopping it. So the thought of the joint pain has really worried me, but so far so good! Not sure if age is a factor, she was 58 at diagnosis, I was 38. I do feel like I've had some memory problems which my onc says is not from the tamoxifen, he says it's from going through this whole ordeal but who knows?! All in all, I've been pleasantly surprised with the minimal side effects I've had and hope those little pills are doing their job!! |
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MtnMama Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 134 |
Dec 3, 2007 08:30 pm
MtnMama wrote:
Has anyone found the time of day taken has any bearing on side effects? I've been taking them in the a.m. with my vitamins and Prilosec. No insomnia thus far, but I'm only in week two. Dx 4/2/2007, IDC, 1cm, Stage I, Grade 3, 0/2 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- |
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Sandraj Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 24 |
Dec 3, 2007 08:59 pm
Sandraj wrote:
Hi Everyone, I started tamoxifen the first time in March and after 6 weeks developed radiation recall and had to stop it. I started back on it about 5 weeks ago. The worst thing so far are the hot flashes. I also think it makes you tired. Otherwise, no problems. So I guess I'll be on the train with you guy for a long while. Sandra |
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laynel57 Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 492 |
Dec 3, 2007 09:42 pm
laynel57 wrote:
Hey, Basha ... sorry, I wasn't ignoring you ... just stuck in Ohio without a computer (hmm ... that could be a title for a short story ...). I've taken 2 so far and I haven't exploded or caught on fire. So far, so good. I just put it with the handful of other pills that I have to take and "down the hatch." I'm used to hot flashes with the Pill, so I wonder if these will be any different. 3girls, Heather, I'm visiting my mom in Dayton, Ohio. I'm on the hotel computer right now, and will be back home in lovely Arlington VA tomorrow -- YAY! Cynthia, I'm sorry that Toprol is giving you such a problem ... I was hoping it would work out for you and make you sleep nicely without the Ativan. *SIGH* I guess it can't be good for EVERYONE. Off to print my boarding pass so they'll let me on the plane back home tomorrow. Cheers! Layne "Hit it with a sledgehammer until it submits or dies ...."
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CapeTownJan
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 100 |
Dec 4, 2007 01:46 am
CapeTownJanine wrote:
Hi ladies! I'm on the last pill in my first bottle o' Tamoxifen! If I have to take it for 5 years, 12 months a year, I have to take 60 bottles. One down, 59 to go! Janine |
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CapeTownJan
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 100 |
Dec 4, 2007 02:32 am
CapeTownJanine wrote:
Hey ladies, Has anyone else experienced problems with breathing while on Tamoxifen? I've noticed that by late afternoon, my throat feels as if it's closing up. This usually lasts until I go to bed. (I take my pill in the evenings when I go to bed). I'm seeing my onc on the 14th of December, and will mention it to her. Or should I phone her before? Janine |
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JapanLynn Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 472 |
Dec 4, 2007 05:58 am
JapanLynn wrote:
Dang...I missed my dose today. This is the first time--I was sitting at school late this morning when I realized I walked out without it. Oh, well...I'm off to put a sticky note by the doorknob to remind myself. Ack, Janine...trouble breathing?? I think I'd call the onc now. Sandra, what is radiation recall? Enjoy your day, ladies...I'm off to bed in an hour. Lynn Dx 7/30/2007, IDC, 1cm, Stage Ia, Grade 3, 0/2 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- |
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