I finished 5 years of Arimidex last April. I wanted to report back that my hot flashes have stopped but I didn't lose any weight.
I had finished my Menopause when I started to take Arimidex. However, Arimidex brought on thw worst Hot Flashes I had ever had. I kept wondering and hoping they would stop after finishing them.
For those who are suffering through that heat, there is an end in sight. I just wanted to let you know because I was craving this info when i was on Arimidex and could find no one who had finished Arimidex after 5 years on this board.
If you have any other questions about Arimidex, ask away.
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notself Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 22 |
Aug 28, 2008 12:20 am
notself wrote:
Congratulations on finishing. It must be such a relief to be finished with it. Congratulations on making the five year mark and may you have a long, happy and healthy life. I ahve been on Arimidex for 7 months. I am tired, mildly depressed, having mild hot flashes and I am losing a lot of hair. I hope that I will adjust to the drug and that the SE's will not get any worse. the only thing that bothers me is the hair loss. I am trying a shampoo but it is too soon to tell. Did you experience hair loss? By the way, thanks for offering your experience. |
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dmk123 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 207 |
Aug 28, 2008 08:22 pm dmk123 wrote: I did have some hair loss. I was fotunate because I had thick hair to start. But I noticed it. I was also on antidepressants but this was not related to Cancer. I've had depressive episodes for the past 25 yrs. But I have to say that my long time psychiatrist was so helpful in going through BC. |
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budgie Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 5 |
Sep 1, 2008 04:36 am
budgie wrote:
To dmk123 Thanks for your posts. It is so good to hear that there is "light at the end of the tunnel" ! I too have hair loss on top and at the crown. I have been on Arimidex for 18 months, but the hair loss seems to have happened suddenly recently. At first I thought it might be the neurontin that I was taking for a couple of months. The more I read, I think it probably is the Arimidex though. Even worse for me is the joint pain in places that I definitely have not had before. Its in my feet and is so crippling. I can hardly walk. Did you have the joint pain and if so, what helped the pain.? I want to get walking but this "feet" pain issue is not making it very possible. Also, I hve been taking Biotin supplements for the hair loss. Its supposed to help. Did your hair loss slow down while on the drug. I am also worried this loss will go on and on while on the drug. !! Thanks in advance for any help ! |
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Curlylocks Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 1288 |
Sep 1, 2008 09:17 am, edited Sep 1, 2008 09:18 AM
by Curlylocks
Curlylocks wrote:
Budgie, I have been on Armidex for almost 2 1/2 years and suffered with the stiffness and pain until I started taking Glucosmine Chrondite (sp?). It helps tremendously with the stiffness, I use to have problems getting up after sitting for awhile. It normally takes a few months to notice results..... I havent had the hair loss thankfully...fingers crossed... Michele Dx 10/25/2005, IDC, 4cm, Stage II, Grade 3, 3/23 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- |
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dmk123 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 207 |
Sep 2, 2008 08:18 pm
dmk123 wrote:
There is light at the end of the tunnel. Phew!! My hair loss was at the crown too. I didn't notice for a long time because I rarely look back there. I still have joint pain in my arms and hips. I think mine is also due to Lipitor. I take an anti inflammatory if it is really bad. I think Curlylocks, You have a very good idea with the Glucosmine. Many have tried it. Now, don't laugh. I used to give it to my old arthritic cat. Vets orders. I must try it also. How much a day do you take? |
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wishiwere Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 3066 |
Sep 2, 2008 09:52 pm
wishiwere wrote:
Very interested in whether you had joint pain (hips, knees/ feet?) while on it and what you did that worked or not? And did it go away when you quit the drug? Also, have you noticed any hair thickening since being off it? The hair and joints are my worse SE's. The headaches are getting better I think and the nausea is gone. wishiwere
Dx 9/21/2007, ILC, 1cm, Stage Ib, Grade 2, 0/4 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- |
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dmk123 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 207 |
Sep 6, 2008 12:16 pm dmk123 wrote: I still have some joint pain but as I mentioned above it could be due to Lipitor. I am not sure about the hair thickening at the crown. If it is, it must happen very slowly. |
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wishiwere Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 3066 |
Sep 6, 2008 12:24 pm
wishiwere wrote:
Hmmm..thanks for the info. So frustrating that it's not black and white. I'm wondering if those women's rogaine would help? When I have to start to doing a comb over, I'm either off it, or trying somethign else, b/c this is too much on a daily basis. Between the aches, pain, headaches and hair loss. Sore throat, vaginal atrophy, dryness and bleeding....hmmm..I think that's all...HA! That's all. It enough to put most men in bed for the day and I say that's all! Can you imagine if MEN had to take this stuff or even a year! ?? wishiwere
Dx 9/21/2007, ILC, 1cm, Stage Ib, Grade 2, 0/4 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- |
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otter Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 2560 |
Sep 6, 2008 01:24 pm, edited Sep 6, 2008 01:55 PM
by otter
otter wrote:
Wish, men do have to take hormonal therapy, for prostate cancer. In their case, the therapy suppresses testosterone levels. Sometimes this is accomplished, in part, by giving them estrogen! I did some googling, and found a website describing the SE's associated with treatments for prostate cancer: http://www.prostatecancerfoundation.org. [I edited the original link, because it was too wide for the page. Go to the main page to see the pages with SE's.] That website says, "There are six broad categories of side effects that are typically associated with prostate cancer treatments: urinary dysfunction, bowel dysfunction, erectile dysfunction, loss of fertility, effects due to the loss of testosterone, and side effects of chemotherapy. Depending on the treatment strategy used, some or all of these effects might be present." Here's a list from that website, of SE's just from the testosterone deprivation. Don't these sound familiar?: "The list of potential effects of testosterone loss is long: hot flashes, decreased sexual desire, erectile dysfunction, fatigue, osteoporosis, weight gain, decreased muscle mass, anemia, and memory loss. Most men who are on hormone therapy experience at least some of these effects, but the degree to which any man will be affected by any one drug regimen is impossible to predict." I even read just today in my OncologySTAT newsletter that estrogen can fuel an especially aggressive type of prostate cancer in men. So.... men who've been given estrogen to suppress their cancer could end up with a worse form of it, because of the treatment! I'm really not trying to be argumentative. Really. :) It's just that prostate cancer is common, and it is sometimes just as aggressive and potentially lethal as BC can be. And, the treatment is sort of the inverse of our BC treatments. In other words, the misery of a cancer dx and treatment is spread pretty evenly throughout "humankind". otter Dx 1/14/2008, IDC, 1cm, Stage I, Grade 2, 0/3 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2- |
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swimangel72
Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 746 |
Sep 6, 2008 01:51 pm
swimangel72 wrote:
Thank you for sharing with us and congratulations on finishing Arimidex. I took my very first pill last night - and am not looking foward to any SEs. I'm trying to remain active and optimistic that I won't turn into a 90-year-old woman overnight! And thanks Otter for reminding us that everyone suffers no matter what their cancer dx. My dad died from brain cancer 6 months before my wedding (it'll be 24 years ago this October.) His surgery left him speechless - the radiation made him exhaused and he only lived 9 months after that - a nightmare for my mom who insisted on giving him home care to the bitter end. These days I feel my heart breaking whenever I hear about children suffering with cancer. Having experienced chemo infusions and problems with my port - it weakens my knees and puts my faith to test to see children suffer like this - and then I become a basketcase thinking what their moms and dads must suffer on their behalf. God spare all children EVERYWHERE from this misery - and may the Holy Spirit help our research scientists in their studies and inspire new students to go into the field of cancer research. 3/3/08 Right-side mastectomy with immediate muscle-sparing free tram
Dx 2/5/2008, IDC, <1cm, Stage Ib, Grade 1, 0/7 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2+ |
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MsKarin Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 383 |
Sep 6, 2008 05:15 pm
MsKarin wrote:
Otter, <<<men>do have to take hormonal therapy, for prostate cancer>>> Thats news to me. Hubby had prostate cancer 10 years ago a very aggressive form. Had the surgery to remove the prostate followed by rads. He was never put on any hormonal therapy and Dr never mentioned it. He was going for follow ups every 6 months but last year Dr switched him to once a year. He was 45 at time of DX. Enjoy the day, Karin Dx 3/27/2008, IDC, <1cm, Stage IIa, Grade 1, 1/13 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- |
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dmk123 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 207 |
Sep 6, 2008 09:31 pm
dmk123 wrote:
Yes, how could I not have mentioned the vaginal dryness, atrophy and pain of intercourse. I haven't noticed an improvement in any of those. Once deprived of estrogen for 5 years does all this come back in time? I don't know. I hope so! When!! I know my post " After Arimidex" isn't full of postive results for me. But that is just me. I wish I could find more people who are 5 years post Arimidex. I'd like to compare results. |
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marshalett Joined: Aug 2008 Posts: 2 |
Sep 12, 2008 06:22 pm
marshalett wrote:
I took 2 years of Tamoxifen and 3 years of Arimidex which ended March, 2006 after an original diagnosis of Stage 1 in 2001. I too experienced MASSIVE hot flashes, not frequent, but bad when they happened. They didn't last long but were definitely intensified with any ingestion of alcohol. I also experienced intensifed muscle pain in areas that already bothered me; lower back and hips. I can say that when I stopped taking Arimidex, the hot flash intensity decreased and I went from about 3 a day down to 1. My muscle pains also decreased in intensity and some actually disappeared. My only concern was going off of Arimidex after the five years. I posted on another forum ( recurrence and metastatic disease) asking of anyone knew if docs were prescribing it for longer than 5 years. |
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Curlylocks Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 1288 |
Sep 14, 2008 10:41 am
Curlylocks wrote:
Sorry I have taken to long to respond DMK123, I take 500 mg tab x 3 a day. <> MicheleDx 10/25/2005, IDC, 4cm, Stage II, Grade 3, 3/23 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- |
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GayleB Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 355 |
Sep 14, 2008 10:48 am
GayleB wrote:
This is an interesting thread. I was wondering about the diminishing of SEs after 5 years. I have only been on the Arimidex for 6.5 months, so I do have a way to go yet. I think, though, that the time to be on this drug will lengthen after further research. At any rate, I did ask my GP if the arthritic problems I am getting would go away, and she said probably not after 5 years. But, like many of you, the problems are occurring in areas where there was a "weakness" anyway. However, the vaginal dryness and pain is not something I want to keep with me and I am currently using lots of Replens and twice weekly vagifem. You know, I read that your body temp could reach as high as 106 during a hot flash? Imagine that! Dx 1/8/2008, ILC, 1cm, Stage II, Grade 1, 1/6 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- |
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wishiwere Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 3066 |
Sep 14, 2008 10:59 am
wishiwere wrote:
I know dh is suprised how HOT the bed gets from my hot flash! Used to be, I was hogging covers, now it's him, b/c I have the A/C blaring all night. That way, I can throw off covers, and when I've cooled, pull them back on and not have to adjust the a/c on HIS side of the bed all night. The kitties seem to be the only creatures in the house enjoying their new 'heated' apparatus to snuggle up to at night! Dang cats! Leave it to them to encourage the heat production by snuggling. Just what I do NOT need, encouragement at 2 am! :( I've actually taken my temp and it doesn't read high at all during a hot flash... wishiwere
Dx 9/21/2007, ILC, 1cm, Stage Ib, Grade 2, 0/4 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- |
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dmk123 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 207 |
Sep 14, 2008 01:10 pm, edited Sep 14, 2008 01:10 PM
by dmk123
dmk123 wrote:
Wishiwere: the hot flashes will stop. It was unbearable for 5 years and now it has stopped!! Hot weather and alcohol are the worst. GayleB: It is disappointing to learn that your GP said that arthritic conditions will continue after the 5 years of Arimidex. BUT I keep reminding myself that side effects are a smallp price to pay for keeping Cancer at bay. |
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wishiwere Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 3066 |
Sep 14, 2008 01:22 pm
wishiwere wrote:
I'm dealing with the hot flashes, but for sure it's been way longer than 5 years I had warm flushes. Wondering if those weren't low thyroid though. Since chemo it's been the HOT flashes and much worse. This hip thing is something more altogether...it's not going away, but getting worse by the day now :( Just frustrating.... wishiwere
Dx 9/21/2007, ILC, 1cm, Stage Ib, Grade 2, 0/4 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- |
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OmahaGirl Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 70 |
Sep 14, 2008 09:27 pm
OmahaGirl wrote:
I have only been taking Arimidex since the end of June, and at first I cried with every pill and would say only 1000+ left to take. I had a lot of SE's at first but strangely except for hot flashes and a little stiffness they are gone, but not forgotten. I fear they will return at any given moment! I just read on the homepage under answers about menopause, that the Vagifem I use was studied and shown to raise our estrogen levels.. sh.. is there nothing safe once you've had BC? I was just getting comfortable again. I am glad to know that some of the SE's do go away after 5 years. Congratulations to those who have completed their course. I wonder if someday they will tell us to take it forever? Wishing you all the best. Dx 5/30/2008, IDC, <1cm, Stage Ia, Grade 1, 0/4 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2- |
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GayleB Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 355 |
Sep 14, 2008 09:37 pm
GayleB wrote:
Omahagirl, my onc, my gyn, and my GP advised the vagifem. They said the risk of absorption was very small and the benefits were huge. I use the minimum dosage. Tried living w/o for a few weeks and nearly went crazy, not to mention nearly growing shut from the dryness. I was in the "counting" stage too, when I first started taking this med. But I try not to now. I guess because we know there is a time limit on the prescribed dosage, we get into the countdown mode. As for the flashes, my covers are flying on and off all night--and, when I cool down, I am nearly freeezing. But, I am tending to sleep through most of it. And, I bought some "wickaway" fabric to make sleepwear for myself. It wicks the moisture away from your body and dries much faster than cotton. And, wishiwere, you are so right--the SEs, if manageable, are just a nuisance considering we are able to do something constructive to keep the beast at bay. Love ya. Gayle Dx 1/8/2008, ILC, 1cm, Stage II, Grade 1, 1/6 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- |
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OrliNaaman Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 40 |
Sep 15, 2008 02:40 pm
OrliNaaman wrote:
Exactly half an hour ago I decided I AM DONE WITH ARIMIDEX! I was going to wait until I could talk to my doctor but I couldn't face one more day. Panic was setting in. Over the past few days the side effects have very suddenly escaleted and become intolerable. It began as just the fatigue and bone pain (pretty severe, but since I suffer from alot of pain anyway, I figured 'just keep going'), blood pressure climbing. I also was worried about some sharp weight gains, since I spent most of my life horribly overweight and lost it ALL 4 years ago...a real miracle...the weight gain was traumatic! But I have also become very nervous and irritable (like...look at me wrong and I'll bite your head off), and finally, for about the past 4 days, extremely depressed; severely! The initial physical ones I could 'live with' for 5 years. The addition of the last two, though, pushed it over the edge. The depression, particularly, is a killer. I was going to wait and speak to the doctor, but really can't. It's SOS! I can't believe I did this, but I have never seen depression move so quickly and so paralytically! Now I have to face my doctor....HELP! Dx 6/11/2008, IDC, <1cm, Stage II, Grade 2, 0/6 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- |
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GayleB Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 355 |
Sep 15, 2008 05:03 pm
GayleB wrote:
Orli, when is your next appt with your onc? And, now, my next thought is, would you be willing to try a different drug? The best thing I can say to you is that it is your body and your decision, not your doctor's. So, if he/she gets irritable about your decision, well, so be it. You know how you feel, and you are the ultimate decision maker regarding your health care. The Arimidex isn't a cure, it is a help. But, if it is causing more problems than it may potentially prevent, then you have made the right decision. So, take a deep breath, try to relax, and remember that you are not alone. We are here, walking along with you. See how you feel after you have been Arimidex free for a few days, talk with your dr and listen to your body. Love ya. Gayle Dx 1/8/2008, ILC, 1cm, Stage II, Grade 1, 1/6 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- |
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OrliNaaman Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 40 |
Sep 21, 2008 03:33 pm
OrliNaaman wrote:
OrliNaaman wrote: Hi guys, I'm back...and I mean 'I'm BACK'! I'm going to post this on all of the arimidex groups because I really want others to know. If it hadn't been for a post awhile back (sorry, I forget who posted it and don't have time to check right now) I would have 'just kept going'...but that post nagged at me. I wasn't 'depressed' about the cancer...it really was an extreme 'chemical depression' that took me down so quickly I couldn't think straight! I had been on arimidex for nearly 2 months and was dealing with all of the pain, fatigue, weight gain, etc...but the depression came on suddenly and for no reason...and it was a black hole! I met an acquaintance who looked at me and said 'what's wrong with you'? She didn't know about the bc etc, and I poured out the whole thing. Turns out she is a doctor and her husband a psych. She told me to call my onc and tell her 'SOS, I'M IN TROUBLE WITH THE MEDS!'. I was too depressed to do that, but got home and went to take my meds...and just decided...'no. I'm not doing this,' The next morning (SEVEN HOURS LATER!!) I woke up with the alarm (instead of hours before it) for the first time in 2 mos, and the first thing I noticed was that everything had colors again! The change was DRAMATIC! I called my onc and she said not to worry, just stop taking it and we'd discuss 'change'. I feel like myself again! I encourage you that if you are experiencing sudden depression, take it seriously! SOOO...I have nearly 2 boxes of arimidex to send as a gift to anyone who's insurance does not cover it and is tolerating the treatment. It would be a blessing to me to be able to help out. Our medicine is socialized here and I am so blessed by not needing to pay for it. Please contact me here or post a personal reply. Love and strength to each of you and thanks for your input, it really helped! Dx 6/11/2008, IDC, <1cm, Stage II, Grade 2, 0/6 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- |
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notself Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 22 |
Sep 22, 2008 03:35 pm
notself wrote:
dmk123 Have you noticed any improvement in your hair since April? I am trying everything I can think of and still losing hair. I have only been on Arimidex for 7 months and at this rate I will be bald my this time next year. I am on pantothenic acid, biotin, and nizarol shampoo. Nothing seems to be helping. |
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Jannamel Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 1 |
Sep 22, 2008 06:16 pm
Jannamel wrote:
I just finished five years of Arimidex about six weeks ago. This afternoon I noticed "spotting",, never had any before,, so will call the Onc tomorrow, I guess. I am 55. Still painful sex, actually, not still not interested!! ugh!! |
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wishiwere Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 3066 |
Sep 22, 2008 08:49 pm
wishiwere wrote:
Most definitely call your Onco, if you have a gyno onco, that would be even better. Any spotting after menopause is worrisome. They'll most likely to a Transvaginal U/S to check the endometrial stripe and such. SO sorry you are having this problem. All you need after putting up with the Ai for 5 years! wishiwere~ Primary was IDC w/DCIS 1.4 cm, ER/PR+ & HER2-
Dx 9/21/2007, ILC, 1cm, Stage Ib, Grade 2, 0/4 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- |
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SoCalLisa Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 2291 |
Sep 22, 2008 09:10 pm
SoCalLisa wrote:
Hi there..I finished up with arimidex two years ago.. I have finally been able to lose weight on a low fat diet It did not work when I was on it... the aches and pains gradually lessen, but I have to say I still have some of them..for me the wrists and above the ankles.. I still have to take the fosamaxD for the bone density loss I had from the arimidex.. But folks, I am here and almost eight years out now.. |
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wishiwere Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 3066 |
Sep 22, 2008 09:23 pm
wishiwere wrote:
SCLisa, thank you so much for posting! Did you have any hair thinning while on it, and did that improve since you've been off it? wishiwere~ Primary was IDC w/DCIS 1.4 cm, ER/PR+ & HER2-
Dx 9/21/2007, ILC, 1cm, Stage Ib, Grade 2, 0/4 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- |
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SoCalLisa Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 2291 |
Sep 22, 2008 09:25 pm
SoCalLisa wrote:
I did have some hair thinning and it has improved a bit.. it was worth it to me.. |
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wishiwere Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 3066 |
Sep 22, 2008 09:32 pm
wishiwere wrote:
Thanks! That's been one of the two things that bother me the most. I just had xrays be/c I was having problems at the end of the day getting up stairs. My right femur hurt and wouldn't support my weight. I was fine going down and walking, but turning or going up, it would give out with a lot of pain. Nothing wrong on xray, so that I can deal with. I was concerned with arthitis, but he said no sign of that, so whew! The hair thinning is really bothersome, but I'm doing the 'hide a key' stuff, combing it differently to hide it. Never was a hair person, so it's hard, but doable as long as it doens't get too much worse, b/c I am NOT a wig person at all :( Thanks again for you experience and sharing it! It helps a lot! :D wishiwere~ Primary was IDC w/DCIS 1.4 cm, ER/PR+ & HER2-
Dx 9/21/2007, ILC, 1cm, Stage Ib, Grade 2, 0/4 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- |
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