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Mi
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  • Posted on: Sep 21, 2008 08:53 am
debk55 wrote:

My Chiroprater did this patch test with iodine and said I was lacking iodine due to living in the midwest and not using salt and not eating seafood. I remember in nursing school that ws the reason they added iodine to salt. I just have a very bad history of high B/P & heart disease in my family and stopped the salt thing 30years ago. Would love to hear your input.  THis website and all of you girls have been a wonderful godsend to me. As i was just diagnosed and still researching alot.  THANKS A BUNCH!   Deb k

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Dx 9/9/2008, IDC, 2cm, Stage II, Grade 3, / nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2-
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anomdenet
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Sep 21, 2008 05:10 pm, edited Sep 21, 2008 06:41 PM by anomdenet anomdenet wrote:

Deb,

Your chiropractor is really up to date. The Breast Cancer Choices organization has been reviewing all the research on iodine for breast cancer on their website for several years and has summarized the info.

www.breastcancerchoices.org/iodine

You can even get reimbursed for your iodine test if you are a breast cancer patient if you participate in their database of breast cancer patients taking iodine. www.breastcancerchoices.org/iproject

I have been taking 50 mg of Iodoral for a while now. You can google around and see that iodine deficiency started 30 years ago when they took the iodine out of flour. And everybody got on a low salt kick.

Good luck!

Anom 

star21
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Sep 21, 2008 06:59 pm, edited Sep 21, 2008 07:00 PM by star21 star21 wrote:

I don't know how anybody can not be getting enough salt, when it's in everything we eat.  Especially canned soups.  I try not to add any extra,  just because it's added to so many things I eat.  It's  is a very interesting topic to research though.

Star

FloridaLady…
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Sep 21, 2008 07:32 pm FloridaLady wrote:

It how they process our salt.  They process out the iodine and also out of many other things.  Do the research there is facts to back this up.  Also research thyroid disease and/or bc. They are find a direct connection.

Flalady

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althea
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Sep 21, 2008 08:35 pm althea wrote:

Another reason for iodine deficiency is the chlorine in our water.  Chlorine and iodine compete for the same receptors, and our system is overloaded with chlorine every time we bathe in chlorinated water. 

Be prepared for a huge learning curve if you want to know more about iodine.  I started mine in february and my head still swims from all the information.  I haven't gone with Iodoral to correct my deficiency, but I've definitely increased my iodine and selenium intake, and I'm still suffering major fatigue, which I attribute to being hypothyroid.  

anom, how long is a while and are you feeling any benefits from taking the Iodoral? 

My idea of a balanced diet is a cookie in each hand
Dx 12/22/2004, ILC, 5cm, Stage II, Grade 1, 0/1 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
cp418
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Sep 21, 2008 08:40 pm cp418 wrote:

Has anyone had their iodine levels checked by there PCP?  So many of us are finally getting our Vitamin D levels checked but many this is another test we should inquire about?  I know none of these tests were offered to me unless I specifically asked for them and they are not done by my oncologist.  I had to go to my PCP and ask for Vitamin D and cholesterol to be checked.

"Don't let fear of tomorrow rob you of the joy of today."
anomdenet
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Sep 21, 2008 09:52 pm anomdenet wrote:

There is an excellent radio audio clip on this website by one of the three major iodine doctors. Part of the audio talks about breasts and how iodine suppresses estrogen receptors among other things.

http://www.iodine4health.com/overviews/audiovisual/flechas_audiovisual.htm

anomdenet
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Sep 22, 2008 12:14 am anomdenet wrote:

Althea,

My earlier message to you did not go through.

The answer is, I felt the Iodoral (50 mg) kick in within 90 minutes. I must have been really depleted. A woman wrote an article in First Magazine this week saying the same thing about her experience with Iodoral tho I gather that is not the norm. It doesn't hit everybody so powerfully. My brain just "woke up" and I had ambition.

 I believe what they say about it boosting IQ but I thought that was only in Third World countries. Hah! My brain must have been in the Third World. I have been using uniodized seasalt since I can remember. :(

My one regret is that I didn't have this iodine info 30 years ago.

 Anom

rrs
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Sep 22, 2008 12:42 am rrs wrote:

There is something about this in Suzanne Somer's new book.  It is supposed to improve dense breast tissue.  Has anyone heard of Liqui-Kelp by World Organic?  I bought some but haven't started using it.  I'm worried that it isn't organic.  What is the source of the iodine in Lugol's Solution?


Dx 7/26/2001, IDC, <1cm, Stage Ib, Grade 2, 0/17 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
dreamartist…
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Sep 22, 2008 04:29 am dreamartist wrote:

My PCP started me on Iodoral when my mammogram showed a suspicion of BC along with OncoPLEX (sulforaphane glucosinolate) which is a Broccoli seed extract.  The tumor went within a week or two from being hard to soft and not painful.  Japanese women eat a lot of Kelp and fish, which contains iodine and they have a very low incidence of breast and cervical cancer. She recommends 50 mg per day of Iodoral if you have BC. Before the biopsy I was taking half that amount. It also has a connection to prostrate cancer by the way.

carol1949
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Sep 22, 2008 09:41 am carol1949 wrote:

Dear rrs,

You can Google "Lugol's iodine" and find much information on it.  Lugol's solution is basically 5g elemental iodine + 10g potassium iodine in 85ml of distilled water.   

If you have any thyroid issues, especially, I think you wil be interested in what you learn.  There seems to be a direct connection or certainly at the very least a more than coincidental occurrence of b/c in people who have thyroid issues.  Some doctors have done studies that show Lugol's iodine has eliminated fybrocystic breast tumors.  

I don't know anything about Liqui-Kelp.  I am using Lugol's and my oncologist has no problem with it!   I do have a history of thyroid and my oncologist thinks it may be related to my b/c.

Just keep doing your research and trust that the right information will come to you.


Dx 4/4/2008, IDC, 6cm+, Stage IIIb, ER+, HER2-
rrs
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Sep 22, 2008 11:52 am rrs wrote:

Thanks, Carol.  I think the Lugol's sounds like the best way to go. It has been tested and used for years.  I have have my thyroid checked many times and the test always comes back OK.  But, I've read somewhere that thyroid problems can be hard to diagnose.  There are other tests but I cannot remember what they are.  Does anyone know?

In researching iodine supplements for fibrocystic breast tissue and BC prevention, I've also seen reference to iodine being given to people accidently exposed to radiation.  I'm wondering about supplementation for patients who have received radiation treatment.  Has anyone been told that iodine might help reduce the effects of the radiation?


Dx 7/26/2001, IDC, <1cm, Stage Ib, Grade 2, 0/17 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
carol1949
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Sep 24, 2008 05:13 pm carol1949 wrote:

rrs,

Many health professionals say that the blood test is not all that accurate in testing thyroid.  You should take your temperature under your arm before you get out of bed every morning for 5 days or something like that... and if your temperature is low... that indicates thyroid issues.  In addition to that,  you can check aboutthyroid.com  for updated information.  

I have not been told about iodine for radiation effects, however, have read that if you don't have thyroid issues prior to rads.. chances are you will after.  Also, if you do have thyroid issues you should tell the radiologist so that they can take precautions.  I do think the rads are far more precise these days than they were years ago... which may help.


Dx 4/4/2008, IDC, 6cm+, Stage IIIb, ER+, HER2-
althea
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Sep 24, 2008 08:36 pm althea wrote:

anom, that is such a wonderful result you got from the Iodoral!  I'm so envious.  It's a liquid, right?  Is it tolerable?  ghastly?  tasty?  

My idea of a balanced diet is a cookie in each hand
Dx 12/22/2004, ILC, 5cm, Stage II, Grade 1, 0/1 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
ddd
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Sep 25, 2008 08:11 am ddd wrote:

Is there any danger in taking too much?

ddd

anomdenet
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Sep 25, 2008 02:54 pm anomdenet wrote:

Several of my messages have not gone through. Will someone please explain if I am on mederated status or something?

anomdenet
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Sep 25, 2008 03:24 pm anomdenet wrote:

Althea,

I'm trying again to answer. Iodoral is Lugol's Solution in tablet form. It's tasteless.

As dreamartist said above, 50 mg is what the doctors recommend. But I would start lower. There are a bunch of doctors listed in the Iodine Literate Practitioners Directory at www.breastcancerchoices.org/ipractitioners

Let us know how it goes.

Anom

catlover44
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Sep 25, 2008 03:29 pm catlover44 wrote:

I'm so glad this thread got started...I've just finished 6 rounds of TC chemo and want my body to heal, not be bombarded with more drugs, i.e. Tamoxifen.  I've found lots of encouraging info about iodine also (http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=2452979 is just from July of this year) and am pretty resolved to going that route and "Just Saying No" to Tamox.  Has anyone else done this?? 

I had heard that taking one Iodoral tablet daily was good....but that's not nearly 50 mg, right?  I'm currently looking for a dr. who will work with me on this approach, as my onc. and my surgeon both are stuck in the Tamox rut and look at me like I have a death wish for not wanting to take it. 


Dx 3/14/2008, IDC, 2cm, Stage IIb, Grade 2, 2/5 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
BFidelis
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Sep 25, 2008 03:45 pm BFidelis wrote:

My PCP had me do a 24 hour iodine depletion test:  he gave me a measured dose of iodine, then I collected my urine for 24 hours, measured it, sent a portion to the lab and they send the results to the doc.  He told me that we should excrete 90% of it in our urine w/in 24 hours, and if we don't it's a sign that our bodies are deficient and are using it up rather than excreting.  Can't remember what mine was, but he put me on daily Iodoral.  Can't say I feel any different, but he gave me a whole bunch of literature that supports the link between iodine and BC.  This one was an easy call for me -- inexpensive and easy to do so I feel there's almost NO downside risk.  But if the iodine/bc connection proves true, the upside benefit is potentially HUGE.

Beth

anomdenet
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Sep 25, 2008 08:55 pm anomdenet wrote:

Dr. Bernard Eskin said publicly at a medical conference that iodine in the right dose was at least as good as Tamoxifen or Arimidex but that it is illegal to recommend AGAINST THE "STANDARD OF CARE."

You can look him up in pubmed.com or google him. He has been publishing studies forever.

Anom

(Said no to Tamox and Arimidex)

catlover44
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Sep 27, 2008 09:41 pm catlover44 wrote:

Illegal?  So we can excuse our dr's for being so pig-headed about the "drugs as usual" approach, huh?  In any case, I am so pumped after doing tons of reading (aside from the tired eyes)--I am definitely going with the iodine and indole 3 carbinol.  Tons of literature about how both are wonderful at doing what Tamoxifen does, with NO funky and/or life-threatening side effects!  I've been praying for guidance on this, and I have stumbled upon one thing after another pointing me in this direction.  We need to get the word out!


Dx 3/14/2008, IDC, 2cm, Stage IIb, Grade 2, 2/5 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
shed
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Sep 28, 2008 11:46 pm shed wrote:

i'm estrogen/progesterone positive and am currently on Xeloda.  i'm a bit wary of taking things containing anti-oxidents whilst on Xeloda, is the iodine contraidictory to Xeloda????

anomdenet
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Sep 29, 2008 09:13 am anomdenet wrote:

I've never heard of iodine being contradicted for anything.

 The only thing to be aware of is that about 50% of first time takers may get some bromide detox. There are natural remedies for that. And you want to get the bromide out because too much bromide from bedding, furniture, computers, etc. is what has caused iodine deficiency. Bromide and iodine compete for the same receptors. You want iodine to win, not the toxin bromide.

catlover44
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Oct 10, 2008 03:45 pm, edited Oct 10, 2008 03:46 PM by catlover44 catlover44 wrote:

Has anyone experienced an increase in hot flashes when taking iodine?  I'm taking one Iodoral tablet every other day, and on those days I'm definitely having a lot more hot flashes.  I guess my poor thyroid is confused....maybe I'll hold off on the iodine and let it recover from chemo! 


Dx 3/14/2008, IDC, 2cm, Stage IIb, Grade 2, 2/5 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
gymgirl
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Oct 13, 2008 01:43 am gymgirl wrote:

I'm sure interested in this topic especially if it it a painless, drug free way to lessen my chances of recurrence. What is the best way to find out if iodine would help me? Thyroid blood test came back "normal" but I have thyroid nodules, body temp is consistently low + fatigue.


Dx 4/20/2007, ILC, 2cm, Stage Ib, Grade 1, 0/5 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2-
anomdenet
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Oct 13, 2008 09:42 am anomdenet wrote:

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gymgirl,

You can take the Iodine Loading Test and consult an Iodine Literate Practitioner for interpretation as to why your thyroid is creating nodules. Both the breasts and thyroid need iodine.

My thyroid tests always came out normal despite low temps, constipation and dry flaky skin. If I skip iodine for a week, the dry skin comes back. My mother also had dry flaky skin so for years I was told the condition was "just hereditary" and to use hand lotion. Hah!

I don't know if thyroid conditions can be hereditary. All I know is that the low thyroid symptoms went away on iodine. Some other women who have taken iodine for their breasts report other changes in skin, mood, energy, cholesterol, fibromyalgia, etc. There is an online Iodine Discussion Group on Yahoo with 2,000 members. If you join, you may get some answers. A number of the members suffered from various complaints: thyroid nodules, thyroid cancer, Graves Disease, Hashimoto's Thyroiditis and various breast conditions which were helped by iodine. You can read the first-person documentation in the group archives if you are a member.  http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/iodine/

Dr. David Brownstein wrote an excellent, easy to read book on iodine which discusses the thyroid as well as breasts. See www.drbrownstein.com

Good luck!

anom

cp418
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Oct 15, 2008 10:40 am cp418 wrote:

My pcp has just ordered my yearly bloodwork and this year added a Thyroid profile to be run.  So in addition to my Vitamin D, Cholesterol & Trig levels she will check my thyroid.  None of these tests are ever ordered by my onc even though I am on Femara.  Going for a Cardiac Stress test next week too.  I inquired to my onc why no followup on heart since I have a very strong family hx of heart dx and I have valve issues and took 4 DD AC and 4 DD Taxol.  I was finally referred to a cardiologist yesterday and after viewing my sonogram he ordered the stress test.  You have to keep after these doctors for proper followup and monitoring IMO.

"Don't let fear of tomorrow rob you of the joy of today."
gymgirl
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Oct 16, 2008 05:40 am gymgirl wrote:

anomdenet,

Thanks for the good leads. Yes, I have dry, flaky skin too. I'll check out the site and the book. I can't help but feel that all these symptoms are related.

cp,

I'd like to get my vit D level tested too. I just had an annual physical with my family dr. and this never came up. Geuss I'll have to go back and ask for it. And this is probably related too! Even though I've been researching for over a year, I'm always learning something new. I"ve never had a stress test either - good luck on yours.


Dx 4/20/2007, ILC, 2cm, Stage Ib, Grade 1, 0/5 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2-

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