Topic: natural girls

deni63,

I read that article you posted - I can't explain the mixed feelings it gave me. I am SO glad that someone is speaking out about this. I know that other countries had actually accused the policy of recommending mammo at 40  as criminal. (Their word).  I'll be glad when they finally admit the mistake and stop it. 

On the other hand, it's just another gouge out of my trust in modern medical science,  which is, frankly, almost nil anyway.  Last night, as I read the other articles on the site, I was shattered -

the study about the ineffectiveness of taxol has me in a stupor this morning - (I am scheduled for 3 more infusions - and now it looks like this was/is all for nothing?!) 

I am scheduled for rads in Dec. The revelations about how doctors underestimated cardiac damage of BOTH left and right breast radiation, even with  our "state of the art" techniques, didn't really suprise me - I  suspected as much.  But seeing it confirmed really pulled the rug out from under me.  I cried and cried last night not knowing what to do. Why submit to these treatments that you can't trust?  Worse, why suffer the economic and physicals burdens when they keep revealing how unscientific their science is????

How can we help but  wonder what the next study will show - lung damage far worse than understood? systemic damage that was completely unsuspected?  

Blahhhh! 

Victoria-You are right, I do need a trip. The problem with heading down under is that it is 24 hours in a plane! I have a hard time getting DH on a plane to AZ and that is only 3 hours! He is not a happy traveler, though he is happy once he gets there. My son went backpacking in your beautiful country last year. He had a wonderful time, and he said the people were wonderful. The only thing that worries me is snakes. I hear you have the most poisonous ones in the world. I can't even look at a snake photo. I almost stepped on a little garter snake last week while walking through the forest preserve and I freaked! Our snakes are only dangerous to mice, but they still get to me. As for city life: Well I live near one of the most beautiful cities in the world, Chicago. Yes, people are always surprised that it is beautiful. But I am a country girl at heart. My biggest beef where I live is that it is run by the most crooked politicians in the US. Al Capone may be long gone but his legacy is alive and well in chicago. They do not shoot you anymore if you do not pay the boss, but you do not get any jobs. The only good thing is that most of the crooks followed Obama to DC. Hopefully, they will all retire to Hawaii in 3 years, and we can get this country working again. As for San Fran-It is a beautiful city, but way to liberal for this midwest gal. I guess you get my drift. It is the politics that is making me crazy. I guess I could always go to Texas.

Speaking of Texas-Where are you Rosemary? We could use a little bit of that Texas charm.

As for different points of view: One thing I will never understand is the animosity on this board. If there is a topic that I do not agree with, I do not even bother to read it, much less comment. Yet there are tons of people against alternatives who love to start controversies with those of us who believe in them. As you said Pill, traditional treatments are not always the best answer and for some of us, they are scarier than any alternative. So why do people get so nasty when we try to discuss them? You are right, rads DO affect the heart and lungs, and cause lympedema. Wouldn't it be better to build up the immune system to knock out any "stray cells". The truth is, we all have cancer cells in our bodies everyday. That is why they will never say we are cured, because they have no idea how to find these cells. What I do not understand is the idea of killing good cells in the hopes of killing a few strays. We know that things like iodine, curcumin, vit c, an vit d, and castor oil can draw out and kill cancer cells, so why don't they just give us megadoses of this stuff? They are natural chemotherapies. We could be put in far infared saunas and have our body temps raised high enough to kill cancer cells? Why don't they do any of this? Because the medical field has to operate on scientific studies and the only major studies are funded by drug companies. Even when those studies have a small group of guinea pigs, such as the study of arimidix, as opposed to hundreds of women like the iodine study at breastcancerchoices, the cheaper alternative takes years and years to adopt, but the drug is out on the market in a year. It is just maddening! And you gals are so right about mammo's. Thermography can "see" a tumor just as well as a mammo, is painless and safe, yet women are still told to go get those mammos which exposes them to cancer causing radiation, and will burst cancers out of their nodes with all the squishing, causing it to spread.

Okay off my soap box for the day. Have a great day all, wherever you are.

Fairy-so glad you finally "nipping cancer in the bud". Full steam ahead from here on out!

Anom, I hope you are enjoying a day at the beach or something, get some time to mull over how many of us you have helped, and then get your butt back here. Not everyone will agree with us, but I say, it is their loss and just ignore the nasties.

Morning ladies! The nips are posted on the picture forum under "5 day old modified C Flap Nipples". 

L

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Vivre, I totally agree with your statement... "One thing I will never understand is the animosity on this board. If there is a topic that I do not agree with, I do not even bother to read it, much less comment"

Everyone has to decide what treatment is right for them.  

It seems that some people feel that because they have the anonymity of the internet they can just be plain rude.  I notice this in emails and postings on this and other sites.  How sad because life is way to short for rudeness.  After all "you get more flies with honey than vinegar".

So march on, stand tall and live your life as best as you can!

Picture forum is not part of Bc.org. 

Please contact TimTam and she will take it from there. 

Fairy!! You look great girl!!! Just wait until next week! Woot!  

Thank you ....this is the first I have learned of pictures and actually the first time I have given serious thought to the fact that I need to have an opinion of what I want for nipples and areola.  I've been so absorbed in trying to figure out what to eat, drink, take, believe, etc, etc, and also having had infections and re-excisions and now starting all over on my prophy side...I hadn't even thought about even more decisions to make.  Oh Happy Day!  More Decisions and More Research!  Maybe on this I should try again to just be a nice docile head-nodder.  I do trust my PS, so if ever there was a time to trust and head-nod, this would be it.  Oh wait, probably not...head-nodding is not my strong suit.

asschercut - You painted a truly beautiful picture of Australia for us. I read that and thought "ok, we will retire there" then I read vivre's post about the snakes and NO way am I going there. I'm petrified of snakes. I have nightmares about snakes a lot!!!! flying snakes. snakes all over the house, snakes chasing me etc. When we vacationed in Arizona last year I was constantly looking for snakes . lol. I lived in Az when I was a kid and didn't give snakes a second thought!

Amen to live your life the best you can!!!!!

Question: How do you gals get enough protein? I was drinking whey shakes but I read about how you should only drink organic whey (which is very expensive) and it is impossible to find any without soy. I don't eat beef and I know most don't here. So where's the protein?????

Patty

Seaotter, protein is everywhere!  I eat fish, shellfish, eggs, legumes, grains (combine the legumes & grains to get complete protein, if necessary).  I'm not opposed to red meat, so I eat lean beef & pork.  There are non-soy vegan protein powders, too. 

I haven't posted my rads experience in this forum - but I saw there were some posts about the damage the rads can do to lungs, heart, etc.  I did rads about 18 months ago at NYU Cancer Center - their program for early BC patients is done in the prone (face down into the machine) position and the breast is radiated from beneath the table so that the only part of the body getting rads is the breast - they also give 15 treatments vs. 33 on the back - there is over 15 years of data showing this program as effective as the 33 on the back and without the SEs - no radiated ribs, lungs, shoulders, heart, etc.  I searched for this program in the DC area where I live but had to go to NYC - SK and NYU have the program as well as MDA in Houston and UCLA.  Doctor at NYU is Silvia Formenti fyi - hope this helps someone!

Meg - Thanks, I keep forgetting about legumes, duh!!!!

Patty

I have been wracking my brains, to figure out a way to raise money so our girls here can see doctors who specialize in hormone testing etc etc, I know for me having an extra $1,000 for the initial tests, appointments etc was not easy, for some here its flippin impossible, wouldn't it be great to see money raised for BC awareness used in this manner? Thinking aloud here!  Its my mission to see if I can make this happen, somehow.... Cleo, if I have to sell cupcakes on the side of the street, I will see if I can raise money for your appointment!!

L

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It is all way expensive. We are basically living hand to mouth to try and keep up with all of the bills, bills, bills. It was bad enough with one cancer patient in the house, but now we have two. YIKES. We are maxed out. Sign me up for baking cupcakes!!

Terri - I found this website "Quebec Association of Naturopathic Medicine and Naturopathic Doctors in Montreal" maybe you can find a doc through them?

http://www.qanm.org/qanm_about.html

Hey gals, interesting stuff.  Fairy, glad you are feeling well.  Terri, I can feel ya on this.  I searched hi and lo and thought I finally found someone great and spent a lot of money just for them to near put me back in the hospital w/ thick clotty blood and a handful of hormonal numbers that don't make sense.  Its so frustrating but I am not giving up on finding a great ND.  I have a new lead.

viv, I think that is awesome.  I have a theory that we should have salt in our systems since we came from the sea as ungulates - the iodine supports this - also pools using salt water too.  Its far out but something I think about.  I don't know very much about vitamin c at all but I can tell you that I took vitamin c and d daily for a while way way before I got 'sick' and never felt better (I ran out of OJ and stopped taking all vitamins).  I guess that happens.

...also, you DO have living organisms in your sinus, they are called macrophages (sp?) and the histamine responsiveness gets them moving and fighting bacteria for you and even though the drippiness is annoying, I always tend to stay away from anti-histamines (except of late w/ the chemo) but getting to the root cause is smart.  it's like when you cut yourself and watery liquid forms, its to let the bacteria fighters travel to the wound - so your theory totally makes sense to me but Im no medical dr, just an old biology gal.

Thanks Geek! (I hope you know I mean this with the upmost respect). I agree with you that it is not a good idea to just try to treat the symptoms. I want to figure out what the heck is causing this PND. That is why this protocol was so intriguing. I am already sold on the idea that salt heals because the iodine protocol has made me feel so much better. My doctor told me to use Vit c and mag as a natural colon cleanse. So putting 2 and 2 together, may do the trick. Especially since that website said that all these micro organisms love to live in our heads. Anyway, what will it hurt to try? When my kids are gone next week, I am going to try it. Oh, and I think I will check out Dr. Brownstein's book, "Salt your way to Health". I have been meaning to read it, and this just seems to be a good tie in.

By the way, the fact that that site is not selling anything makes me believe it more.