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Rawson, OH
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 16
  • Posted on: Sep 7, 2008 02:51 pm
CarrieJ wrote:

I was just diagnosed Friday with lung mets. I have read so much on the internet and am very confused about what I need to be doing and how to tell others that after 3 months of being cancer free from my original BC that it is back. I see from some of your signatures that you have had this for years. I hope that is me. My children and my husband are not handling this well. I don't want to be their cheerleader again this time. My doctors have me starting Avastin and Navelbine soon. I need to have a port put in this time and don't know what to expect with that. I have been reading alot of your previous posts and still don't know what to expect. Can anyone tell me just what happens with this? How will I feel the next day? As you all know, anxiety is worse than the actual. Thanks for any help you can give me.

CarrieJ


Dx 9/5/2008, , Stage IV, / nodes, mets, ER-/PR-, HER2-
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wishiwere
MI
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 3066
Sep 7, 2008 02:54 pm wishiwere wrote:

{{{Carrie}}} I'm sure the mets ladies will be by soon, but just wanted to say how sorry I am that you've been through so much and now having to go through so much more with heightened anxiety. Did you by chance consider some anti-anxiety meds. I know many speak of them with high regards when dealing with BC in general and with mets. Dear, I'm so sorry you got the call, but know you will be in many of our prayers and thoughts as you go through this. Danged beast should be stopped!!!!!!!! We need to stop it now, not in 20 years :(

wishiwere
Dx 9/21/2007, ILC, 1cm, Stage Ib, Grade 2, 0/4 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
CarrieJ
Rawson, OH
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 16
Sep 7, 2008 03:13 pm CarrieJ wrote:

wishiwere,

Yes, I am on Lexapro. It seems my sister has been on it for awhile but didn't mention it until I told her about all this Friday night. I started it last night with a starterpak. It probably just hasn't kicked in yet.

Thanks for all your prayers and thoughts already.


Dx 9/5/2008, , Stage IV, / nodes, mets, ER-/PR-, HER2-
LuAnnH
Cincinnati, OH
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 6812
Sep 7, 2008 04:00 pm LuAnnH wrote:

Carrie, I have been dealing with bone mets almost 2 1/2 years and doing very very well.  This almost is like a game sometimes and what works and what doesn't.  You don't have to be the cheerleader and your family needs to step up better this time.  This disease has no rhyme or reason as to why one person recurrs immediately and nother one doesn't.  All we can do is find an onc we trust and go with our gut.

I do take lexapro and always have xanax and ativan on hand for days that are just too hard.  Lately I have had alot of them although they are not cancer related.  Please post here with all your questions and educate yourself on this disease.  To me it helps alot but you must find what works for you.

LuAnn -- www.luannsblog.typepad.com
Dx 7/2/2006, IDC, 2cm, Stage IV, 0/ nodes, mets, ER+/PR+, HER2+
jerseymaria…
nj
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 485
Sep 7, 2008 04:15 pm jerseymaria wrote:

i'm new myself to the mets group and i'm so sorry you're joining us.  it's very stressful but luann gives good advice...anti-anxiety meds get us  through many days.  i had a port inserted at the onset. it was done in the or with a general.  no problems directly related to that other than soreness.  i did develop a large hemotoma and the bs just drained it.  because my first chemo was the following day the bs inserted an access line in the port so it could be used.  now i know i'll never be able to have it removed but to be honest i don't even know it's there unless i feel the area. in my humble opinion it beats getting stuck in arm over and over.  oh almost forgot, i do use lidocaine cream before port is going to be used to numb the area since i have very sensitive skin and going in without it was very painful for me.  others don't mind. many hugs to  you and please come back with your questions.  maria


Dx 2/27/2006, 3cm, Stage IV, Grade 3, 9/25 nodes, mets, ER-/PR-, HER2+
jeanne46
San Diego, CA
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 602
Sep 7, 2008 04:26 pm jeanne46 wrote:

Carrie,

Sorry you had to find your way here. But this a great place for support, information and sisterhood.

I am on the same chemo you will be starting.  Most people find that Navelbine is an easy chemo to take - it does not cause hair loss, rarely causes much nausea, and does not require pre-meds (especially steroids).  Avastin usually doesn't have many SEs, although some ladies have reported some bone pain right after the infusion.  I have not experienced that. Avastin can eventually cause high blood pressure, so they will check your blood pressure regularly (they do anyway). It also can delay healing and cause nosebleeds.  My urine is checked regularly to make sure my kidney function is normal.  You do not want to have a surgery of any kind while on Avastin.

My experience with Navelbine was that it was more difficult that I expected.  My white counts got really low and I always required a Neulasta injection and occastionally an injection of Aranesp for red cell counts  I was fatigued and had a lot of stomach acid.  I experienced some weakness in my core muscles (hips and shoulders). That was on a schedule of infusions once a week for three weeks, then one week off.  When my oncologist changed the plan to every other week, the above problems went away. Generally, if you do experience SEs, it occurs during the first few days after your infusion. 

For me, having a port has been great.  My veins are very small and hard to find.  The port works well and you can't tell I have it when I'm in clothes (even with a V-neck top). I can also use it for some scans which means less endless sticking to find a good vein.

Best of luck to you. Let us know how you are doing. 

Dx 12/2005 Stage IV, Grade 3, mets ER+ PR- Her/2-
CarrieJ
Rawson, OH
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 16
Sep 8, 2008 09:34 am CarrieJ wrote:

Thank you all for welcoming me. I too wish I wasn't here.

From what I have heard about Avastin, the high blood pressure thing might not be a problem. My normal BP is around 90/60. They were watching very closely with my last surgery because it bottomed out around 80/50. Apparently that isn't good.

My last chemo had me on Neulasta and Aranesp every week also. Nothing new there.

The last IV I had for my CT scan took 7 tries and three people to get in. My sister the RN was so angry! She tells me that a port will be wonderful for me. Thanks jeanne46. I can use all the experience that you all here can give.

CarrieJ


Dx 9/5/2008, , Stage IV, / nodes, mets, ER-/PR-, HER2-
watson
Katy, TX
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 1354
Sep 8, 2008 10:12 am watson wrote:

Carrie,

I am a stage 4 lung metster too.  I was dx with them in January this year.  I haven't been on your combo yet but I do want Navelbine and Avastin next.

Get a port!  You will not regret it.  Make sure it is a Bard Power Port so they can do CT contrast through it for scans.  You can't do that with regular ones.

As far as being a cheerleader?  Don't be if you don't want to.  Make your family buck up!   Around my house my having cancer is a non issue - just the way I like it.  No one talks about it.  I have two kids in college and one in 4th grade.  All they know is that my cancer is back.  I don't see the need in telling them anything more.  I feel great most of the time, just a few achey days after my Gemzar.  I have never had any symptoms of lung mets; coughing or shortness of breath, etc.

You are going to be fine!  It sucks going through all this again, but we gotta do what we gotta do!

Hugs,

Watson

I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy.
Dx 1/29/2008, Stage IV, mets, ER-/PR-, HER2+
kbugmom
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 1664
Sep 8, 2008 11:29 am kbugmom wrote:

Having a port makes it so much easier. I also have a power port like Watson.

I was dx with lung mets 2 and a half yrs ago. It looks like I had it with my first dx of bc. I am now on gemzar and avastin. Have been for almost 14 moths. There can be a bp issue with the avastin and I am on bp meds now. Foods taste gross day after. Maybe it is just me. I have also had alot of sinus problems since I started this chemo. I have lots of sinus drainage which makes me cough alot. They think it is a se of meds. I do most of what I did before dx. A good positive attitude is a must. Also I have a strong faith in the good Lord. It is doable so keep looking up and you will do great. Hugs and prayers to you..... 

Summer
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 1103
Sep 8, 2008 11:36 am Summer wrote:

Cancer sucks!

Summer
Dx 10/12/2001, IDC, 1cm, Stage I, Grade 3, 0/8 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2-
KiminJax
Jacksonville, FL
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 433
Sep 8, 2008 08:41 pm KiminJax wrote:

Hi Carrie - Lung mets here too.  I just celebrated two years of fighting the mets on September 6!  I've been through a lot of chemos and am now on Navelbine.  I'm kind of glad to hear you're' starting on it because for the first time in a long time something is working for me.  My lung tumors did shrink on the Navelbine.  I continue to take it.  The only side effect I've had is a little heart burn that lasts only a few hours.  Otherwise, it is the easiest chemo I have taken yet!  I could take it for years and years if it keeps working.  I go one a week, no breaks.  I do self-inject neupogen once a day for four days after the chemo.  One neulasa shot would do the same thing but I can't take the neulasta.  Occassionally I have arenesp too.  But really, it's been so easy for me.

 I did the Avastin a while ago and it really spiked my blood pressure.  I'm glad to be off it.

 God bless you and please know you are among friends here.  You are not alone.  Love and best wishes.  Kim


Dx 8/2006, IDC, Stage IV, Grade 3, 0/5 nodes, mets, ER+/PR-, HER2-
ElaineD
United Kingdom
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 294
Sep 9, 2008 03:07 am ElaineD wrote:

Glad you've found us...but sorry you have to join us . I too have mets to lung liver and bone, and have had good results from taxotere and herceptin. As Watson said-don't worry about being a cheerleader -it's early days for all of your family and no doubt once they've had a chance to assimilate the news, then they'll cope. Good luck to you all, and hope that all goes well with the treatment.

suzyq18
United Kingdom
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 34
Sep 9, 2008 03:36 am suzyq18 wrote:

hi all i was just wondering what the signs ans symptoms are for lung mets, i have had a cough which is quite annoying for weeks now, some days i  cough all the time then it goes for a couple of days and its back again. i finished rads in may dont know if it could be from that, thanks for any info sue


Dx 8/29/2007, IBC, 6cm+, Stage IIIb, Grade 3, 6/8 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
CarrieJ
Rawson, OH
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 16
Sep 9, 2008 09:38 am CarrieJ wrote:

suzyq18,

My lung mets presented itself with a cough. I was coughing up yellow gunk and my family practice doctor put me on antibiotics. That stuff went away but the cough didn't. I had orientation with my youngest at college and we did alot of walking and climbing stairs all over campus for 2 days. I was having trouble breathing and since then I have been short of breath alot. I persuaded the onc to proscribe another course of anitbiotics, which she very reluctantly did (mumbled something about a super-infection). I was right about that. It made them do a chest x-ray, CT scan and finally the lung biopsy. I have pneumonia along with these tumors. BTW, two weeks before the chest xray, my blood test came back with "negligable" tumor markers. Thank God I knew that something wasn't right and pushed harder.

I have seen on here though that some have no symptoms with lung mets. If you don't feel right and can't breath or do have that cough, have a chest x-ray. That's how they found mine so early. My rads were done in March. I was told it was scar tissue. Not!

All the things that they recommed to relieve the cough, cool breeze, AC, etc, work really well. I have also had some success with Halls menthol cough drops when I can't get to the water fountain or somewhere like church.


Dx 9/5/2008, , Stage IV, / nodes, mets, ER-/PR-, HER2-
CarrieJ
Rawson, OH
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 16
Sep 9, 2008 09:43 am CarrieJ wrote:

Oh, I forgot. Thanks, watson for your advice. We have been telling people on a need to know basis that my cancer is back and we are starting chemo again. That usually stops them right there. That is all they want to know. I don't have to tell them anything else and we don't talk about it again. also, my husband agrees that the cheerleader thing is now at an end. Now if I could just get myself to stop doing it!


Dx 9/5/2008, , Stage IV, / nodes, mets, ER-/PR-, HER2-
suzyq18
United Kingdom
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 34
Sep 9, 2008 11:08 am suzyq18 wrote:

hi carriej, thanks for giving me the information, sometimes i cough that much i am sick, then the cough will go away for a couple of days, then i cough no stop again, its more like a tickly cough, on sat i had a pain that went from the front into my back that was very uncomfortable and i felt awfull, am going to oncolgy next thursday so c what he says, when i had a chest xray a few months ago it was all clear, i think somethink is not right thank sue


Dx 8/29/2007, IBC, 6cm+, Stage IIIb, Grade 3, 6/8 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
jordan54
IL
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 15
Oct 28, 2008 01:00 am jordan54 wrote:

watson\\  I've been fighting BC for 5 years.  About a year and half ago I had part of my left lung removed. Mets but clear margins. Now I have another lesion on my right lung.  At present time the lesion cannot be removed.  I have some positive sternal lymph nodes.  The OC is suggesting Gemzar injections along with Tykerb or Carbo with Taxtotere.  Now I just have to make up my mind. Like you I had no symptoms.  It sucks having to get treatment but I am very lucky that new therapies are available.

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