I'm so screwy - I know something inside my skull is going to be improved or it's not. Prayers, petitions to the Lord, wishing on stars (really!), bargaining with my Higher Power, positive imagery - nothing. It's better in the brain or it's not.
My concern is increased by my last month of trial by decadron - a miserable failure. I started April 'clean', having carefully - oh so carefully and gradually - weaned myself off the steroids. I could say I was cautiously optimistic. Then I noticed speech problems returning, and getting worse by the week. I became nearly mute 10 days ago because of the frustration of just spitting the words out, I could form concepts, I still read with comprehension - but emails (and posts) were a chore to be avoided. I actually started seeing double - like trails. But I'm stubborn - it took my sister to say "Whatever the long-term consequences you fear being on that decadron, I don't have the feeling at this rate, that you'll live to see them."
Wake-up call! Despite my wanting to get an accurate picture on my MRI I started back on the drugs.Then I doubled the dose. Then I doubled the dose again. Finally after about 9 days I was semi-coherent (emphasis on the semi-).
What does this say about the tumor? I can imagine there being a cluster right on my speech center. Or I have 'seeded' them all about my brain. Why doesn't my brain stop swelling? I have waited three (more- tx was 12/08) full months to see some result of tx - why can't I just get a little better? I start the scan about 9pm - that's at night. My oncologist and neurosurgeon (in LA) promise they'll both call first thing in the morning. Suuure - by the time I get past the messaging system, past the nurses - maybe by noon? My imagination is running away with me!!!!
And the damned steroids DON'T help!
Lisa
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Analemma Joined: May 2005 Posts: 1,702 |
May 5, 2009 06:39 pm
Analemma wrote:
Ativan, ativan. When I do good, I feel good; when I do bad, I feel bad. That's my religion. Abraham Lincoln
Dx 12/10/2007, IDC, 2cm, Stage IV, Grade 3, 5/12 nodes, mets, ER-/PR-, HER2- |
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Analemma Joined: May 2005 Posts: 1,702 |
May 5, 2009 07:17 pm
Analemma wrote:
Lisa, that wasn't a helpful comment, and I thought surely someone would stop by with some real words of wisdom. I don't have any, but on NoSurrender's site, I do remember that Edge said that ativan (lorazepam) is the best drug for counteracting the anxiety and hyperactivity caused from the decadron. As far as talking you down, I don't know enough about brain mets to even venture a supposition. We're all walking this new road together. I have my brain MRI followup on June3, and I'm hoping for good results, but still the imagination goes where it will. I'm still feeling symptom free, but we know what could be there and it's so very hard not to imagine the worst case scenario. Is your MRI tonight? It sounds like your sister is level headed. I hope you can lean on her. When I do good, I feel good; when I do bad, I feel bad. That's my religion. Abraham Lincoln
Dx 12/10/2007, IDC, 2cm, Stage IV, Grade 3, 5/12 nodes, mets, ER-/PR-, HER2- |
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TenderIsOur
Joined: May 2007 Posts: 4,313 |
May 5, 2009 07:37 pm
TenderIsOurMight wrote:
Holding you close, Lisa. I don't have the answers either which you seek. I trust your doctors will hear these frustrations out and help you so you're not alone on this management. Glad you have your sister and that she's a pillar. Tough on you both; please feel our support. It cannot be emphasized too strongly that treatment of each patient is a highly individualized matter. (FDA-approved labeling for warfarin (Coumadin) NDA 9-218/5-105)
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LisaSDCA Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 2,219 |
May 5, 2009 09:00 pm
LisaSDCA wrote:
Thank you so much for your compassion - both of you. I worked up a sweat outside doing badly neglected yard work for some distraction. I now will have a lemonade, fresh from my tree - with a splash of vodka, methinks. Unfortunately my sister is at the other end of the state from me. I'll be taking a cab down to the hospital - it's under 10min. and the MRI will run far too late for early-rising friends. I'll take that Ativan, Brenda - I've been nibbling at one all day, but one entire sucka will go down about 8:30! Lisa Stage IV mets to brain 11/2008
Dx 1/24/2007, IDC, 2cm, Stage IIa, Grade 3, 0/3 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2- |
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everyminute
Joined: Aug 2008 Posts: 960 |
May 5, 2009 09:04 pm
everyminute wrote:
Lisa - My pug, Mia, sends you sloppy, snorty kisses and warm snuggles. Long May She Run
Dx 6/5/2008, IDC, 2cm, Stage IIIa, Grade 3, 5/20 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- |
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VickiG Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 535 |
May 5, 2009 09:24 pm
VickiG wrote:
(((Lisa))) I'm thinking of you... I hope you manage to calm down just a little ~ I know that's easier said than done, but I hate to see you so anxious & worried. Unfortunately I do not have any advice to offer, just a lot of hugs & positive thoughts for you. You are in my heart tonight ~ we'll all be right there with you. Vicki
Dx 6/9/2007, IDC, , Stage IV, Grade 3, 10/14 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2- |
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maxgirl Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 427 |
May 5, 2009 09:29 pm
maxgirl wrote:
Lisa, I hope you can feel the warm thoughts and hugs flowing your way, and that they give you a moment of calm. I'll be holding you in my thoughts tonight. Dx 1/10/2007, IDC, Stage IIa, Grade 3, 2/15 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2- |
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MissShapen Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 6,167 |
May 5, 2009 09:46 pm
MissShapen wrote:
Lisa, You have been on my mind lately and I am so sorry to find you going through a difficult time here. I don't have anything. but friendship, love and prayers to offer. I wish I had words of wisdom, but I somehow never do at the most critical times. I would love to be there to share a lemonade and vodka with you. I'd give you a nice shoulder and foot massage and cook you a delicious meal. I do pray that the news is as good as possible and that the Lord will guide the doctors to treat you in just the right way. I'll be thinking of you and anxiously awaiting good news. Love you, sister! Miss S "Be kinder than necessary, for everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle."
Dx 11/9/2006, IDC, <1cm, Stage IIIa, Grade 3, 7/31 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2+ |
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dreamwriter
Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 1,568 |
May 5, 2009 09:56 pm
dreamwriter wrote:
Lisa... I will hold your hand. Just before the test you will feel me take your hand and hold it all the way through. You dont have to do anything, the Ativan will keep you calm, your friends will keep you feeling loved. I`m just there because I am your friend. When the doctor gives you the result you will remember your sister and your friends are with you. And 80 per cent of us are boppin up and down waiting to hear the news. Laugh until it really IS funny.
Dx 12/20/2005, 6cm+, Stage IV, Grade 3, 18/18 nodes, mets, ER+/PR+, HER2- |
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heatherpalm
Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 1,771 |
May 5, 2009 10:01 pm
heatherpalmerton wrote:
Lisa sending you many gentle hugs Heather HEATHER PALMERTON
Dx 1/18/2008, Stage IV, ER+/PR+, HER2- |
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luvtotravel
Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 931 |
May 5, 2009 10:05 pm
luvtotravel wrote:
Lisa, Prayers for an uneventful MRI luv2travel
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jeanne46 Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,015 |
May 5, 2009 11:22 pm
jeanne46 wrote:
Lisa - sending hugs, white healing light and prayers for you that you will find a resolution of the brain issues. Ativan used to help me when I was wired from steroids. Don't be shy with 'em. Let us know what happens with the MRI. You are loved and cared about. Crossing my fingers and toes. Hugs, Jeanne Handle every stressful situation like a dog - if you can't eat it or play with it, pee on it and walk away. Dx 12/2005 Stage IV, Grade 3, mets ER+ PR- Her/2 (2+)
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meliaanne Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 758 |
May 5, 2009 11:28 pm
meliaanne wrote:
Lisa, holding you close to my heart. Stay strong, and know that you are loved. Melia |
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GrammyNancy
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 591 |
May 5, 2009 11:59 pm
GrammyNancy wrote:
Lisa, I'm sorry that I have no advise but want you to know that you are in my thoughts, prayers and I too am holding you close to my heart. Wish I was on the west coast so I could take you for your MRI and be there for you...know that I am there in spirit. Love to you my dear sister, Nancy Dx 2/5/2007, ILC, 2cm, Stage IIb, Grade 3, 1/7 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2+ |
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LisaSDCA Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 2,219 |
May 6, 2009 02:23 am
LisaSDCA wrote:
I'm back. I ended up driving myself because the cab was not here by 8:35. Don't know what happened, maybe he got a call from the airport for a bigger fare. Drove myself with no problems, I know the way pretty durn well. My biggest concern was the contrast, because I am a "tough stick". It's not unusual to go through 6 attempts, by three different techs. I felt you all there, extending your love and concern as 'Art' (I'll remember his name for future appts) slid the needle in on first try! Maybe it was the hydrating with lemonade! :) I'm sorry I had my little hissy-fit this afternoon - but I know you women will tolerate it, even understand it. And offer the love and support I came home to - you mean so much to me. :::sniff::: Now for the count down to results. I am going to take an Ativan to sleep with - yes, and snooze to the comforting sounds of Pugs' snoring. Lisa Stage IV mets to brain 11/2008
Dx 1/24/2007, IDC, 2cm, Stage IIa, Grade 3, 0/3 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2- |
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Fitztwins Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 7,661 |
May 6, 2009 06:52 am
Fitztwins wrote:
Lisa, maybe the brain needs more time recovering and it isn't the tumor. We do understand the fear, the anger, the steriods...that make people crazy. Fingers crossed and prayers that the MRI looks good and that you just need some more time on the 'roids. Janis Pugs snoring, is that better than a spouse? Wash away my troubles, wash away my pain, with the rain of shambala
Dx 12/12/2004, IDC, Stage IV, Grade 2, mets, ER+/PR+, HER2+ |
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LisaSDCA Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 2,219 |
May 6, 2009 08:28 am
LisaSDCA wrote:
I'm awake already - Ativan gave me less than 4 hours. I'm going to email my onc, and see if he'll see that first thing and call with a report. The system puts the messages on a non-critical list, but I feel it can't hurt. My teeth ache from grinding though the few hours of sleep and I;m clenching right now, I'm a basket-case and I don't want to be!!!! Lisa Janis ~ having had experience with snoring that can rattle the windows, I'll take Pugs anytime! Stage IV mets to brain 11/2008
Dx 1/24/2007, IDC, 2cm, Stage IIa, Grade 3, 0/3 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2- |
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Analemma Joined: May 2005 Posts: 1,702 |
May 6, 2009 08:52 am
Analemma wrote:
Oh, crap, Lisa, four hours?? They should make long acting Ativan. I personally dose up every night with 15 mg of time-release melatonin and a 3 mg Lunesta. Used to take 12 mg Ambien cr until the new insurance didn't cover it. Sleep is so important. If you have issues typically, I strongly recommend Ambien or Lunesta regularly. When I do good, I feel good; when I do bad, I feel bad. That's my religion. Abraham Lincoln
Dx 12/10/2007, IDC, 2cm, Stage IV, Grade 3, 5/12 nodes, mets, ER-/PR-, HER2- |
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LisaSDCA Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 2,219 |
May 6, 2009 12:16 pm
LisaSDCA wrote:
Oh holy sh!t!I just called to find out my oncologist is on VACATION until next TUESDAY. What am I gonna do!????! Lisa Stage IV mets to brain 11/2008
Dx 1/24/2007, IDC, 2cm, Stage IIa, Grade 3, 0/3 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2- |
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Analemma Joined: May 2005 Posts: 1,702 |
May 6, 2009 12:26 pm
Analemma wrote:
Your oncologist is a lying sack of shit, that's what I think. Call the neurologist. When I do good, I feel good; when I do bad, I feel bad. That's my religion. Abraham Lincoln
Dx 12/10/2007, IDC, 2cm, Stage IV, Grade 3, 5/12 nodes, mets, ER-/PR-, HER2- |
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navygirl Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 390 |
May 6, 2009 12:57 pm
navygirl wrote:
call teh neurologist and cry...they hate it when we cry. Be a PITA until you get your results...and know we are pacing the floor with you praying for improvement! life is short, play hard
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VickiG Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 535 |
May 6, 2009 01:00 pm
VickiG wrote:
Oh Lisa that is so ridiculous ~ and I completely agree with Brenda on this one!!!!! If I were you, I'd be making myself a pain in their asses until I got some answers, LOTS of answers. Don't back down on this one! Vicki
Dx 6/9/2007, IDC, , Stage IV, Grade 3, 10/14 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2- |
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LisaSDCA Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 2,219 |
May 6, 2009 01:10 pm
LisaSDCA wrote:
I called LA; she promised that that the neuro would call back by "this afternoon". I called the local office where the onc. who is on call may get around to it. I took a Xanax, just half - but if I don't feel it kick in pretty soon, I'm going for the other half. I took my 10mg of melatonin last night, too. Doing the full EdgeCAM regime - despite being back on the evil decadron. I tried Lunesta, dried me out something fierce (I've got Sjogren's Synd) and gave me a funky taste in my mouth. Maybe I should just butch up and take it again. This four hr/night has gone on since this return to steroids. I usually get 5 1/2 or 6. Maybe I'll try crying, Bonnie. I'm having a hard enough time being understood on the phone - maybe that'll just add the note if hysteria I'm looking for. I just want the preliminary report! Lisa Stage IV mets to brain 11/2008
Dx 1/24/2007, IDC, 2cm, Stage IIa, Grade 3, 0/3 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2- |
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Member_of_t
Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 5,518 |
May 6, 2009 01:47 pm
Member_of_the_Club wrote:
Oooooh I'm steamed. There should be a special place in hell for oncologists who go away when their patients are waiting for test results and don't have a backup plan. This is totally and completely unacceptable. Dx 9/30/2004, IDC, 3cm, Stage IIb, Grade 2, 1/17 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- |
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Analemma Joined: May 2005 Posts: 1,702 |
May 6, 2009 01:54 pm, edited May 6, 2009 02:29 PM
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Analemma Joined: May 2005 Posts: 1,702 |
May 6, 2009 01:54 pm
Analemma wrote:
And to tell her yesterday that he'd call this morning when he knew FULL WELL that he had NO INTENTION of doing so. A-HOLE!!!!! When I do good, I feel good; when I do bad, I feel bad. That's my religion. Abraham Lincoln
Dx 12/10/2007, IDC, 2cm, Stage IV, Grade 3, 5/12 nodes, mets, ER-/PR-, HER2- |
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jeanne46 Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,015 |
May 6, 2009 01:58 pm
jeanne46 wrote:
This is just wrong. Make a pest of yourself, and call whomever on an hourly basis. They will definitely know who you are! Your onc, perhaps without knowing, is a shit. Boo Hiss on him. I had the same reaction with Lunesta: bad taste in my mouth and it only lasted half the night. If 3 mgs. of ativan doesn't work, try 6mgs. Or switch it up and try some valium. Sleep is so important. In the meantime, its a pretty day. Make some more lemonade! Hugs to you, Jeanne Handle every stressful situation like a dog - if you can't eat it or play with it, pee on it and walk away. Dx 12/2005 Stage IV, Grade 3, mets ER+ PR- Her/2 (2+)
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LisaSDCA Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 2,219 |
May 6, 2009 03:02 pm, edited May 6, 2009 03:03 PM
by LisaSDCA
LisaSDCA wrote:
In my oncologist's defense, he did not say yesterday he would call first thing in the morning, he promised that last week when I saw him. Now I've just gotten a call that my neurosurgeon in LA is in a procedure ALL day. Hard to believe he can't take 10 min. to call. Maybe the procedure ends with the 18th hole. My neurology guy who has only seen me once, for the consultation in LA, has now got a somewhat tearful request in to read that report. In the ER the MRI results were back within 30 min - why can't I crack/hack the Kaiser system and get my own records? They won't be typed up for a week for my retrieval. Maybe I will make a pitcher of lemonade. Liquid sunshine. I was in the backyard when the call came (my cordless gets a signal - it's a small yard) and running across the lawn I stepped in dog poop. Now my Pugs are RAW -fed, and it just takes a few hours to turn it crusty and dry. But this was fresh. It's just not my day. Lisa Stage IV mets to brain 11/2008
Dx 1/24/2007, IDC, 2cm, Stage IIa, Grade 3, 0/3 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2- |
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sjack827 Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 431 |
May 6, 2009 03:27 pm
sjack827 wrote:
So sorry Lisa!!! Waiting for test results is awful. You sound so frustrated -- I hope they call you soon with some kind of information!!! Hugs from Ohio |
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Analemma Joined: May 2005 Posts: 1,702 |
May 6, 2009 05:24 pm
Analemma wrote:
Reminds me of the day I had my PET scan to find out if I was metastatic. They told me it would be about an hour until the results went to the dr, so I drove home, and after two hours called the nurse. She checked, no results, but promised to keep checking. Two hours later, I called her again. No results, again, she promised. Two hours later I called, no results, but she would check again because she was about to leave. She never called me back, and the next day I called and got her message that she was out until further notice. I was going nuts. So I called the dr's secratary and she was very vague about the nurse, but she'd have the onc call me. All day I waited, and finally at the end of the day I got a call to my PCP, and she called me back with the results. She's the one who told me I was metastatic, not the onc. I switched onc's soon after that, and I never have spoken to that nurse again, even though she's on staff at Cleveland Clinic. I remember that as one of the worst days in this cancer journey. When I do good, I feel good; when I do bad, I feel bad. That's my religion. Abraham Lincoln
Dx 12/10/2007, IDC, 2cm, Stage IV, Grade 3, 5/12 nodes, mets, ER-/PR-, HER2- |
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