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Topic: Are you Stage IV & Triple Negative?

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  • Posted on: Jun 16, 2009 09:34 am, edited Jun 16, 2009 06:51 PM by FloridaLady
Joined: Dec 2006
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FloridaLady wrote:

I was just wondering who all out there is TN and stage IV.  What was your original diagnoses and your progression. What date you were diagnosed. I'm curious to see how we are doing now. I know we lost a lot of our sister in the past few months and we have some not doing so well right now. But there are a lot of us out there still trying to kick butt..  I'll start...

11/5 dx Right breast Only

 Seven local recurrence beside spreading to skin (IBC)

Current Status: Mets to skin, neck, back and down my right arm., all of my chest wall

I wanted to revise since you ladies gave so much great info.

I have level II neuropathy from a Phase I drug trial two yr ago. I have a very large right arm that has cancer and lymphedema in it.  I will have chemo #10 and treatment #52 next week.  I doing another Phase I trial with Doxil and hyperthermia just to treat my skin mets.  I'm very rare that I have all this disease and no organ/bone mets after almost four years.  Just shows how different we TN ladies can be.

trip neg stageIV spread to IBC (2X) & 7 recur's, Treat Alt & Conv

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CarynRose
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 101
Jun 16, 2009 10:24 am CarynRose wrote:

Orig. dx - 6/03 -- St. 2a TNBC (wasn't called that then), Grade 3, nodes neg (SNB), margins clear.  Later found BRCA1+ (187delAG).

NED until 6/07 -- recurrence to axillary lymph nodes and lungs.  Chemo and rads brought me back to NED for 10 months.

10/23/08 - Leptomenigeal mets found.  Ommaya res. installed.  Intrathecal methotrexate 2 months.  Chemical menigitis.   WBR and down spine.  CSF appears cancer free.

Neck to knees --- hilar lymph nodes, small lesions (7mm), 2 lung lesions (7mm)

Side effects from rads and CNS chemo include no feeling from braline down to my toes, especially on right side.  Also had minor stroke affecting memory and balance.

 But I"m here and hoping to make another recovery with PT and ST.

I go to CTCA in Philly and receive both Conventional and Alternative treatments.


Dx 6/28/2007, IDC, 2cm, Stage IV, Grade 3, 0/3 nodes, mets, ER-/PR-, HER2-
ekenny315
Bronx, NY
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 56
Jun 16, 2009 10:51 am, edited Jun 16, 2009 10:52 AM by ekenny315 ekenny315 wrote:

Orig dx: 4/23/08 stage IIIC, grade 3, 16/22 pos nodes, margins clear - BRCA 2+ (chemo & rads)

recurrence: 3/15/09 to 8 brain lesions,leptomeningeal, liver, hips, lymphnodes & sternum (WBR, rads on sternum carboplatin 3 so far and intrathecal methotextrate 2 so far.

Carynnrose: your an inspiration keep up the good fight!

Can i add another question?

How do you deal with your down time as far as feeling low? 

Erika
Dx 3/15/2009, IDC, 1cm, Stage IV, Grade 3, 16/22 nodes, mets, ER-/PR-, HER2-

Analemma
Cleveland area, OH
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 1,712
Jun 16, 2009 12:54 pm Analemma wrote:

Dx 4/05, after misdiagnosis 7/04.  Stage 2B/ 3A (depending on who you ask) with 5 dirty nodes.

Recurrence 11/07, mediastinal and supraclav nodes, chemo 1/08 - 4/08 (carboplatin + taxotere times 6)

NED until 11/08, some hilar node adenopathy.  No chemo.

12/08 one small brain lesion, gamma knife 1/09

4/09 one rib and one spine met, rads. 

5/09 swollen supraclav node , to be removed 6/30 to retest for her2 and have current tissue block.

bone mets stable, hilar nodes not mentioned.  Brain MRI showed one spot that "probably" is the beginning of a second lesion.  Rescan in 8 weeks.  Onc and neurologist are talking chemo, and I'll most likely start Xeloda in August.  I'll likely have gamma knife again after this new scan, too.

I take the Edge / CAM regimen, with boswellia, resveratrol, ecgc, curcumin, d3, and melatonin.

Children are the living messages we send to a time we will not see. --John W. Whitehead
Dx 12/10/2007, IDC, 2cm, Stage IV, Grade 3, 5/12 nodes, mets, ER-/PR-, HER2-
CarynRose
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 101
Jun 16, 2009 02:38 pm CarynRose wrote:

Ekenny,

To be honest with you, I haven't known to be that scared.  Maybe it is ignorance.  I'm taking it one day at a time and when my doctors tell me that they have something to try/use, I do research, but for the most part, trust them.  I had no idea that the 'stats' said that I had 4-6 weeks when I found out I had lepto mets.   I found a lady who'd been on the same treatment and was 18 months and hung my hope on her.  She was about to go on a cruise.

 I am beginning to understand how someone in my situation can start to peter out.  I haven't had the chance to fully recover from my treatments and often just as I'm near where I  was, something else happens to knock me down again.  I can see how eventually someone would be so exhausted by the treatment as to say "enough".

I'm not there yet and I intend to be around and enjoying my life and the lives of my family for quite a while, but it's weird straddling living fully and preparing for death at the same time, knowing, ultimately, it's in G-d's hands.

 Caryn


Dx 6/28/2007, IDC, 2cm, Stage IV, Grade 3, 0/3 nodes, mets, ER-/PR-, HER2-
greta
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 106
Jun 16, 2009 06:45 pm greta wrote:

I was Estrogen positive when I had stage 3 breast cancer. When it went to stage IV the doctor said it had mutated and was no loner ER/PR Positive and it was never Her positive. It is in my skull, total spine, hip and rib. No organs yet. Abraxane and Avastin and Zometa are working for the moment. One tumor on T12 is not responding, but not going crazy either. I have no pain , thank goodness, yet. Best wishes to us all. Greta

FloridaLady…
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 2,155
Jun 16, 2009 06:49 pm FloridaLady wrote:

Thanks ladies! It is interesting to see everyones history.  I also take a lot of supplements while in treatment. I've been able to work my job pretty much full time until my recent lymphedema issues. I do believe it has help me have a life in the middle of bc.

Caryn - I'm with you...I not ready to quit yet. Some days are bad now but most I have quality of life. I remind myself daily that it is in God's hands.

I hope we have other join this thread. I would also like to mention a few sister we have lost this year. Please add anyone I missed.  AlaskaDeb, Calgal, Twink, Slonedeb. I miss them all.

I also would like everyone to keep our sister other TN sister Pinehouse in thoughts and prayers. She is in great need right now.

Flalady

trip neg stageIV spread to IBC (2X) & 7 recur's, Treat Alt & Conv
Analemma
Cleveland area, OH
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 1,712
Jun 16, 2009 07:38 pm Analemma wrote:

Pinehouse has posted on her blog the past couple of days.  She was able to get cisplatin #2.

What about Heather BLocklear (Annie Camel)?  She was a triple negative, I believe.

Children are the living messages we send to a time we will not see. --John W. Whitehead
Dx 12/10/2007, IDC, 2cm, Stage IV, Grade 3, 5/12 nodes, mets, ER-/PR-, HER2-
Nanalinda
NY
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 341
Jun 16, 2009 07:56 pm Nanalinda wrote:

Hi everyone.  Unfortunately I am here to join your group.  I was originally dx in July 06 with TNBC stage 1, grade 3, basal type.  Had lumpectomy in September 06, no node involvement, clear margins.  Started TAC chemo 11/1/06 had last chemo 2/14/07, then Rads (I think it was 33).  I was in the process of trying to get my life back, and was finally beginning to have days go by without thinking about breast cancer when one day in July 08 I noticed some swelling and soreness in my left arm (side of the lumpectomy) and I thought darn it.... now I have lymphedema.  My arm was quite sore so I went to see my primary care physician.  She ordered an ultrasound to rule out a blood clot.  When the US tech left the room and came back with the Radiologist, right away I thought Oh Oh.  The Radiologist explained that there was no blood clot, but they found what appeared to be multiple tumors in my left chest and supraclavicular lymph nodes.  They got me right in for a PET scan which also revealed an 8.5 cm mediastinal mass, and a T4 tumor.  I had a bone scan which was negative.  I started Taxol/Avastin on 8/1/08 (on 3 weeks, off 1 week).  I had another PET scan in Jan. 09 which showed that the supraclavicular tumors were almost totally gone, and the chest mass was much smaller, but it also revealed that I now had T3 and T5 tumors in my spine along with the T4.  Since I had a negative bone scan, an MRI was ordered of my spine, which confirmed the tumors there (apparently some tumors do not show on a bone scan).  I was started on Zometa in January.  A few weeks ago, I noticed some pressure in my left neck, and could feel the tumors again.  I had my last Taxol/Avastin 2 weeks ago since it has obviously stopped working (after 10 months), and I had a new scan today.  I see my oncologist next Tues. to see what the scan revealed, and where we go from here.  She mentioned Xeloda at my last appointment so I believe that is what will be next.  I was disappointed that the first chemo only worked for 10 months, and I hope the next one will work longer.  I find that I have had more down days lately, and that I worry more about how long I will be around.  I try to keep those thoughts away, but they sneak up on me and they scare me.  Linda


Dx 7/26/2006, IDC, 3cm, Stage IV, Grade 3, 0/0 nodes, mets, ER-/PR-, HER2-
Heidi_Ho
ct
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 209
Jun 16, 2009 08:55 pm Heidi_Ho wrote:

3/5/09 dx 6mm tumor in left breast with skull to knee caps bone mets

ER-/PR-, and HER2- /  Fysh test came back HER2 2.1

ONC says my tumor has both HER2 +/-

3/09 Rads to C spine 10x  

1st chemo taxol every week.  I just completed #10

Herceptin every week.  ONC taking a gamble that herceptin will battle better than Avastin.

Zometa every 5 weeks.

Recently, I have wanted to find out if I am TN definitively because of the PARP inhibitors.  I don't want to waste time on herceptin if I am TN.  I am scared and want to get the right drugs.  My cancer was discovered due to pain from the bone mets.  I have been living with pain for the past 6 months.  PET shows improvement but pain is still here. 


Dx 3/5/2009, IDC, <1cm, Stage IV, Grade 3, mets, ER-/PR-
DeDe6065
Vero Beach, FL
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 14
Jun 16, 2009 11:12 pm DeDe6065 wrote:

I visit this sight to see how you girls are doing but I don't post very often. I am also triple negative. Was diagnosed with stage IV first time around in December 08 , mets to liver.

2/09-4/09  4 A/C treatments, shrunk liver tumor

5/09   Laproscopic Liver Resection to remove tumor

5/09  Pet Scan NED

6/09  12 weekly Taxol

The ONC says she will recheck my ER/PR status with the liver tumor they removed. Have not gotten any word yet. I am happy about NED but worried that after my taxol their will be no drugs to take to keep it away.Deanna

bourscheid
Murphy, NC
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 373
Jun 16, 2009 11:12 pm bourscheid wrote:

Dx. Aug 08 - IDC left breast, had mastectomy, 27 of 29 noded positive..

After recovery went for PET scan. bone scan and MRI  Sept. 08 - Mets to supraclavical and mediastanal nodes (Numerous) as well as multiple large lesions in liver (largest was over 8 cm.)

Oct. 08 - avastin/abraxane started - 3 weeks on 1 week off - Rescan with PET in Dec. 08 - all  nodes clear and only one lesion (the large one) remaining in liver - shrunk to 2.5 cm.

Jan. 09 - CT of abdomen/liver - liver lesion unchanged.  Switched to Xeloda.

June 09 - CT scan came back clear!!!  meet with onc next week to discuss next steps.

Hugs and blessings!

Lori

Lori
Dx 8/18/2008, IDC, 5cm, Stage IV, Grade 3, 27/29 nodes, mets, ER-/PR-, HER2-
wayover20
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 597
Jun 17, 2009 07:42 pm wayover20 wrote:

orig dx (on rt breast at least!) Jan 07-- rt mastectomy with one close margin. 4x3 cm ILC mass, trip neg nodes clear. A/C &T chemo till July 07.

Aug 08-- reoccurrence to mediastinum and ct found 7x5 cm mass and pleural effusion. started rads x 33 tx and had total 5 thoracentesis within 3 weeks to clear effusion. Last rads oct 08 then on to abraxane & avastin chemo. Skin mets now found.

Jan 09-- hospitalized for 2 weeks couldn't breathe thinking mass getting bigger or PE, but results showed radiation pneumonitis so on oxygen 24/7 for about 3 months and now off of it totally. Mass has continued to shrink with each scan!!  Skin mets stubborn.

Present--continue on abraxane and avastin trying to knock out skin mets.

Geez we women go through alot!

Hugs all,

Pat


Dx 8/3/2008, ILC, 6cm+, Stage IV, 0/17 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2-
CatKC
Winnipeg, MB
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 12
Jun 17, 2009 11:00 pm, edited Jun 17, 2009 11:02 PM by CatKC CatKC wrote:

I was diagnosed in May 07, tri-neg invasive ductal carcinoma. Had L mastectomy to remove tumor (1/14 nodes +), then chemo (3x FEC & 3xTaxotere), then 25x rads. Finished treatment April 08. Developed  lymphedema in L arm/hand right after rads finished.

Mets to liver (numerous) dx May 09, by routine CT scan. Now doing taxotere again to see if that helps. Ct scan again in mid July to see if Taxotere is making a difference.

Just joined a mets support group in my city, some really awesome women to share my stories with. It helps. Hugs to all of you here.Smile

"The very least you can do in your life is to figure out what to hope for. And the most you can do is live inside that hope" Barbara Kingsolver
Dx 5/11/2007, IDC, 5cm, Stage IV, Grade 3, 1/14 nodes, mets, ER-/PR-, HER2-
FloridaLady…
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 2,155
Jun 18, 2009 08:03 am FloridaLady wrote:

Catkc,

Glad you found a great support group.  I have to say I have the best Christian cancer support group ever! I just don't know what I would do without them.

Flady

trip neg stageIV spread to IBC (2X) & 7 recur's, Treat Alt & Conv
Nanalinda
NY
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 341
Jun 18, 2009 08:22 am Nanalinda wrote:

I am glad you ladies have good support groups available to you.  I live in a small town and there is no cancer support group in the area.  They tried to start one locally, but very few people went, and they just couldn't keep it going.  If I want to join a support group now, I would have to travel an hour away to the nearest city.  These boards are my support group, and a great group it is.  Linda


Dx 7/26/2006, IDC, 3cm, Stage IV, Grade 3, 0/0 nodes, mets, ER-/PR-, HER2-
Analemma
Cleveland area, OH
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 1,712
Jun 18, 2009 10:43 am Analemma wrote:

I really have no desire to go to a live support group, even though there are some close enough.  Most of them are for early stage women, and they are scared of us metsisters.

This, and tnbcfoundation.org, are my support groups.  Suits me fine.  Most of the time I need support is when I'm awake a two am, anyway.

Children are the living messages we send to a time we will not see. --John W. Whitehead
Dx 12/10/2007, IDC, 2cm, Stage IV, Grade 3, 5/12 nodes, mets, ER-/PR-, HER2-
FloridaLady…
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 2,155
Jun 18, 2009 11:01 am, edited Jun 18, 2009 11:02 AM by FloridaLady FloridaLady wrote:

I do see you point. But my group is all stages and men & women.(this is not a bc group only, try one and like some noted they do not like mets ladies.)  They call me regularly and send cards too check on me.  They help with getting to doctor appts if I need it.  They even will cook meals and clean house if one of the group is in need.  Most of all they are powerful prayer warriors.

Flalady

trip neg stageIV spread to IBC (2X) & 7 recur's, Treat Alt & Conv
Jaypee60
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 18
Jun 18, 2009 05:30 pm Jaypee60 wrote:

Original diagnosis Stage2B IBC, no lymph node involvement. Mastectomy, right breast in Aug 2006 and TAC chemo until Nov 14, 2006.

In May, 2008 started having low back pain. The whole 2 years I had been going to my original Onc. for port flushes and every 3 months blood test and nothing ever showed up. Went to see Orthopedic surgeon who orderd MRI with the results of Degenerative Disc disease. That was in July2008. But my back just kept getting worse to the point sleeping was impossible. My hubby took me to his Othopedic group and the spine doctor took one look at the original MRI and spotted a lesion on L1, then he read the report which said L1 &2 were normal. He ordered another MRI which came back with multiple lesions from T10-S1, one lesion on upper arm and a couple of suspicious areas, too small to diagnose on lower lung and liver. So far I've completed 18 sessions of radiation, which really did a number on my stomach and am into my 2nd Abraxane chemo and 2nd Zometa. I have more good days now that off radiation and hope that will continue. I'm reading a book Battlefield of the Mind; it's a devotional by Joyce Meyers. I have been a Christian for many years and am grateful for that. This book makes it so clear how the enemy puts negative thoughts in our mind to make us depressed and hopeless. We must use that as a signal to reject those thoughts with the power of the Holy Spirit and use the same words Christ used when he was tested in the wilderness. He always came back with "It is written", He used the word of God to fight off those negative attacks. This is something we cannot do on our own, but only by the power of the Holy Spirit. Hope this helps someone.

FloridaLady…
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 2,155
Jun 18, 2009 05:54 pm FloridaLady wrote:

Jaypee,

We are so glad you got the help you needed. I love Joyce Meyers! I've read many of her books during my cancer journey.  I have this one and need to pull it out and re-read it.

God Bless

Flalady

trip neg stageIV spread to IBC (2X) & 7 recur's, Treat Alt & Conv
VickiG
GA
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 535
Jun 19, 2009 12:48 pm VickiG wrote:

I wrote out my novel yesterday & lost my internet cx, so I'll try again now:

Dx 6/07 IDC, TAC 7/07-10/07, bimx 11/07, rads 12/07-1/08

3/08 dx stage 4 (mediastinal nodes) ~ Rads 4/08-5/08, Taxol 4/08+

7/08 skin mets ~ Ixempra/Xeloda

10/08 inguinal node mets ~ Navelbine/Avastin

12/08 progression ~ CMF

 1/09 progression ~ Gemzar

3/09 brain mets ~ Gamma Knife 4/09, Doxil

6/09 lung mets, inguinal & iliac nodes ~ Abraxane, rads to inguinal nodes & superficial rads to approx. 5x6" area of chest skin mets Whew, think that's it!

Vicki
Dx 6/9/2007, IDC, , Stage IV, Grade 3, 10/14 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2-
FloridaLady…
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 2,155
Jun 23, 2009 04:18 pm FloridaLady wrote:

bump

trip neg stageIV spread to IBC (2X) & 7 recur's, Treat Alt & Conv
wayover20
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 597
Jun 23, 2009 05:01 pm wayover20 wrote:

I just went from 2x week back up to 3x week abraxane and avastin and last dose was 6 days ago.  The usual achiness came on day 3 post tx but then last night I started with REALLY bad aches to knees, hips, shoulders and I felt like a 90 yr old.  I took motrin then rubbed icy hot on my hurting right knee then wrapped it with an ace wrap and went to sleep.  This morning I was still achey and when I touched the knee it felt bruised.   All day today until just now I did nothing but lie around hurting and that is so not me.

Tomorrow is another tx and I just hope the effects aren't worse.  Heck I've been on these meds since November and never felt this way.  Feel like I was hit by a truck.


Dx 8/3/2008, ILC, 6cm+, Stage IV, 0/17 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2-
VickiG
GA
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 535
Jun 23, 2009 06:23 pm VickiG wrote:

Holy crap wayover, it's a wkly dosage that hit you so hard?  I'm so sorry... I hate to hear that.  I have only had one dose so far, which is once every 3 wks.  It really kicked my butt (the pain hit 2 days out & lasted a good 4 days... it was excruciating) so I was wondering about getting changed to a wkly schedule again to lessen the SEs... but sounds like it's still pretty rough even done wkly.  Drat.

Vicki
Dx 6/9/2007, IDC, , Stage IV, Grade 3, 10/14 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2-
FloridaLady…
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 2,155
Jun 23, 2009 06:24 pm FloridaLady wrote:

wayover,

I hope this next treatment is gentle for you.  I have my 2nd treatment of the thermdox trial thursday.  I not looking forward to it either.  This will be chemo tx 52...I think I'm just plain tired of chemo and the side effects.

I put on a pain patch today and itch like a dog with fleas.  I don't know if I can stand this thing.

Flalady

trip neg stageIV spread to IBC (2X) & 7 recur's, Treat Alt & Conv
wayover20
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 597
Jun 23, 2009 06:42 pm wayover20 wrote:

HHHHmmmmm.....maybe a flea collar's in order??   Just kidding FLalady!    I wonder if you're allergic to the pain patch?  Is it Fentanyl by the way?  You know I think they still make those in lollipops that you just suck on.

Dont you just hate this crap we deal with??


Dx 8/3/2008, ILC, 6cm+, Stage IV, 0/17 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2-
wayover20
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 597
Jun 23, 2009 06:49 pm wayover20 wrote:

Vicki, you're taking it once every 3 weeks??  So are you thinking that it's a bigger doseage right now and if you were to take smaller doses every week then se's might be less??   Might work but when I first started A/A back in Nov. it was 3x week and never felt as bad as I did last night/today.  So I'm not sure if the fact that I went from 3x to 2x then back to 3x is why my body is reacting.  maybe it's accumulating or something.    Up till now A/A was Very tolerable for me so I wouldn't worry about trying for weekly.  Maybe this is just a one time occurrance for me but it sure was bad.

pat 


Dx 8/3/2008, ILC, 6cm+, Stage IV, 0/17 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2-
FloridaLady…
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 2,155
Jun 23, 2009 08:21 pm, edited Jun 24, 2009 07:30 AM by FloridaLady FloridaLady wrote:

Yes it is Fentanyl...I used it once before and don't remember this side effect. I'd wear a flea collar if it would helpSmile

trip neg stageIV spread to IBC (2X) & 7 recur's, Treat Alt & Conv
wayover20
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 597
Jun 23, 2009 10:53 pm wayover20 wrote:

Hope tomorrow is a better day for you! 

                                               

Pat
Dx 8/3/2008, ILC, 6cm+, Stage IV, 0/17 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2-
Nanalinda
NY
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 341
Jun 24, 2009 12:07 pm Nanalinda wrote:

My patch itches really bad some times too.  I have a hard time keeping it in place so I put waterproof tape over it.  I thought it was the tape causing the itching.... maybe it's not.  I did notice that not every patch causes the itching.  Flalady:  hope your symptoms get better soon.  Linda


Dx 7/26/2006, IDC, 3cm, Stage IV, Grade 3, 0/0 nodes, mets, ER-/PR-, HER2-
FloridaLady…
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 2,155
Jul 3, 2009 06:08 pm FloridaLady wrote:

bump

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