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  • Posted on: Jul 3, 2009 07:55 pm
New Haven, Ct
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 1,112
Reneepals wrote:

I tend to think that our healthcare system is the best in the world. I know it has it's flaws. I pose this question do you believe that Nationalized Healthcare is the way to go? No one's opinion is wrong just wanted to know how everyone else feels.

Renee
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barbe1958
Barrie, ON
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 4,966
Jul 3, 2009 08:41 pm barbe1958 wrote:

There is a thread of this already going, and going pretty well. I'll check my list to see what it's called and where it is and post again.

Papillary Carcinoma with ITCs and IMLN, Bilateral Mastectomy Dec 16th/08 No re-con. No foobies.
Dx 12/10/2008, 1cm, Stage II, 2/13 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
barbe1958
Barrie, ON
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 4,966
Jul 3, 2009 08:42 pm barbe1958 wrote:

Help Me Get Through Treatment: Healthcare in America vs Other Countries

Check it out, it's very interesting!

Papillary Carcinoma with ITCs and IMLN, Bilateral Mastectomy Dec 16th/08 No re-con. No foobies.
Dx 12/10/2008, 1cm, Stage II, 2/13 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
Crystalady
Australia
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 132
Jul 3, 2009 08:49 pm Crystalady wrote:

In Australia we have a public system called Medicare. Overall it means that in situations where it is a chronic illness you get the same (or if not better sometimes) care.

Sometimes I read on this forum about people not being able to get medical help because they don't have insurance. We have a private health insurance that allows us faster treatment but luckily no one is denied help in Australia.

I can't imagine what it would be like to worry about the cost of medical help. It's bad enough just being sick.


Dx 12/4/2008, 3cm, Stage IV, Grade 3, 2/22 nodes, mets, ER+/PR-, HER2-
daisy6
WI
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 278
Jul 4, 2009 10:19 pm daisy6 wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBzie4kq6MA

Here is the head of the Canadian medical society commenting on the /National Health Care system

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gracie1
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 113
Jul 4, 2009 11:34 pm gracie1 wrote:

He is no longer the head of the Canadian Medical Association, and there is a reason. He earned the nickname "Dr. Profit" in Canada. 'bout says it all.

barbe1958
Barrie, ON
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 4,966
Jul 5, 2009 09:10 am barbe1958 wrote:

He must be working in the States now....hehehehehhe

Papillary Carcinoma with ITCs and IMLN, Bilateral Mastectomy Dec 16th/08 No re-con. No foobies.
Dx 12/10/2008, 1cm, Stage II, 2/13 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
konakat
CDN in MA
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 1,342
Jul 5, 2009 12:01 pm konakat wrote:

From what I've read from various posts here and another thread, it seems like Australia and New Zealand (and I believe Italy, Costa Rica, France -- I don't mean to leave out any countries, I just don't know about them) have the best systems -- universal and private insurance options -- maybe that's how to keep everyone happy.  Of course, given a choice, universal is the way to go -- the most effective, efficient, and fair to everyone.  Anyone who thinks the American system is just fine should walk in the shoes of the under or uninsured then see how good it is.

Elizabeth's Mantra: When in doubt, eat cake.
Dx 5/2007, ILC, 3cm, Stage IV, Grade 3, 13/19 nodes, mets, ER+/PR+, HER2+
gracie1
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 113
Jul 5, 2009 12:44 pm gracie1 wrote:

I think it's just a matter of what doctors are willing to work for. I know the family physicians in Canada where I live make approximately 150 - 200k annually. Specialists, like oncs, about 250 - 300k. I know many have left to work in the states where their salaries are potentially doubled, but many also choose to stay....those who don't have that inherent greed factor and are in medicine for all the right reasons. You're right Barbe, he probably did go to the states after he bitched and moaned in Canada long enough about his salary. Good riddance to his butt. Everything he said was a lie. Personally, I don't get the universal health care bashing. Why on earth would you want someone to suffer just because they don't have money? Is that even human?

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