So after posting here and getting some advice about getting a second opinion I wrote my PCP a two page letter. In it I described everything and the time line. Almost two weeks had gone by and I was about to write him off, when he called. Asked me to come back in to talk. My husband came with me and was supportive this time. The long and the short is because of my age they want to chalk everything up to fibrosystic changes. I guess I have the classic case. VERY dense breasts, and leakage. I want to believe this I really do, but I have two new lumps that have been there for 2.5 months now, not changing in size or at least not getting any smaller with my cycles. So I asked to be referred again. I want a biopsy. He told me he did not want me to turn into a pin cushion, and I appreciate his concern but I don't care I want to know for sure! Then he reminded me that they may not even get the right spot and then I would have false hope. I was very close to crying and he knows me well enough that I am a very strong person, and that I do not ask for medicine, etc. He said he would talk to his colleagues and find the best place to send me. Even if it meant going out of state. (Which personally I think would be for the best.) Supposed to call me by the end of the week.
Am I doing the right thing? Demanding a biopsy? Should I just leave it alone and try to move on with my life? Who knew that my boobs would consume so much of my life!
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Marie821 Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 36 |
Nov 9, 2008 08:57 am
Marie821 wrote:
I am a firm believer that you have to go with your gut instincts. I was diagnosed in January and my first surgeon did a lumpectomy. The margins did not come back clean, but he said "the rest can just be taken care of with chemo and radiation," His reason for not doing a mastectomy was mainly about "how that would look" UNBELIEVABLE! I decided I just couldn't live with that. I decided to go for a second opinion. Thank God I did. I found a very good oncologist who told me without more surgery, my chance of recurrence was 70%!!!! WOW! He introduced me to his surgeon who I immediately felt comfortable with. She was my lifeline. It was night and day difference in how I was treated. I had my mastectomy in July, now I'm told my chance of recurrence is about 1%. i'm doing well and feeling great about life again. Talk to people, find someone who has been through BC and recommends a good doctor. You owe it to yourself, and your peace of mind to get the answers you need.Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass....it's about learning to dance in the rain!
Dx 1/2008, IDC, 1cm, Stage I, Grade 2, 0/9 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- |
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jules3 Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 70 |
Nov 9, 2008 09:14 am
jules3 wrote:
Right On Marie821!!! That s the way to "take control'! I believe "gut instinct" is a God-given blessing....For myself, I could not just "go on with life" with a nagging "what if" ...so I had to go with the bilat.mas. (10-9-08) and despite the pain, I ve not had one doubt about my decision. Cemjo, "demanding" is not a bad word....although paired with "woman" society equates that with b*#@th .....it s the right we have in taking care of our bodies ...our LIVES!!! You do whatever it takes to ease your mind and THEN you CAN go on with a happy Peaceful life....My prayers to Our Loving Father go out for you and all the woman courageously fighting this hideous disease....Love love love JulesDx 9/5/2008, IDC, <1cm, Stage I, Grade 1, 0/2 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- |
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jules3 Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 70 |
Nov 9, 2008 09:26 am
jules3 wrote:
Please forgive me for such a "forceful" reply in bold letters...I just was so reactionary when I read more about all your frustrations with the doctors...MY experience with all my doctors, technicians, etc...has been almost flawless (effiecient, caring, quick,etc...) ...( I m in denver)...it just hurts me to read about all the other women who have less-than-acceptable care! I want each of us to be BOLD in our decisions....Cemjo, I dont want to convey that you should jump into having a mastectomy either.....but I want you to find out the answers as to why you ve had such horrible problems (the whole nipple thing). Don t stop til you find out. I had very dense breast tissue and they did not find the tumor til I had MRI, which I insisted on having. You will feel so so empowered once you find the answers and the right doctors!! Make this week count... my 2 bits...jules Dx 9/5/2008, IDC, <1cm, Stage I, Grade 1, 0/2 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- |
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lilsunshine
Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 97 |
Nov 9, 2008 10:35 am
lilsunshine wrote:
My beleif in life is ALWAYS go with our first insinct. It has never steered me wrong, I am going to pursue my "issue" with my left breast til I get answers. Good luck to you, Bonnie |
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flash Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 434 |
Nov 9, 2008 10:52 am
flash wrote:
You have done the proper conservative actions already of checking, waiting, and then checking again; now it is time to get proactive. Dense breasts or age are not valid excuses by the doctor. Consider having an MRI. Even though MRI's can have false positives, they rarely have false negatives. Go to a breast surgeon and get their opinion. In this case, I agree with sunshine and the others - trust your instinct. Good luck dcis, idc, pagets er+,pr+ her2+++
Dx 10/10/2007, Paget's, , Stage , Grade 3, / nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2+ |
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Shirlann Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 6965 |
Nov 9, 2008 05:27 pm
Shirlann wrote:
First of all, it is total crap that the lumps "can't be found". I was told this too. What they do is use a hand held ultrasound, find your lumps. insert a very thin, painless wire, and operate to this place in your breast. The lie about "not being able to fine lumps" was used on me 10 years ago. If you feel you want a biopsy, get one. Do not take no for an answer. Call an attorney if necessary. This is your body and your life. Gentle hugs, Shirlann |
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hpisles Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 15 |
Nov 9, 2008 09:46 pm
hpisles wrote:
Hi Cemjo, You did the right thing by insisting on a second opinion. I live in the San Francisco Bay Area which is known to be pretty on top of things but that is not always so. 30 years ago my sister (who also lived in the SF area) insisted on a biopsy on a lump in her breast. Her doctor kept telling her not to worry she was too young for cancer. Months later he caved and it turned out to be breast cancer and it was so far advance she eventually past away from it. This year I took was diagoised with BC but thankfully Stage O DCIS, I had a great team of doctors behind me but one of the first things I was offered was if I wanted a second a opinion and give references if I did. I was so comfortable with the team of doctors that I had that I went through genetic testing, two lumpectomies, radiation and now taking taxoflin. I expect to live a normal life span (what ever that might be) and learned to treasure each day as it comes. If your doctor doesn't refer you to someone else, you can always go on your own - tell your insurance company and they can always help you find someone in your area hpisles
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TenderIsOur
Joined: May 2007 Posts: 4156 |
Nov 9, 2008 09:59 pm
TenderIsOurMight wrote:
Cemjo: What is this leakage you are describing? One sided nipple discharge, even clear, recurrent, can be due to a duct problem. Even breast surgeons are often not admitting of this, but it happens. The fluid expresses itself in certain body positions due to the build up of cells and fluid in a duct. You're definitely doing the right thing asking for a biopsy. Shirlann says it like it is: a good ultrasonographer of the breast can find a lump if they look thoroughly enough. Stay your course: you're doing well advocating for yourself. Don't let them write it off to your emotions. Strength to you, Tender It cannot be emphasized too strongly that treatment of each patient is a highly individualized matter. (FDA-approved labeling for warfarin (Coumadin) NDA 9-218/5-105)
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cemjo3 Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 41 |
Nov 10, 2008 08:27 am
cemjo3 wrote:
Thank you all for your support. I am waiting for my Doctor to call with the referral. I do feel less stressed than I did on Friday, because I feel as though I am listening to me now. I do believe in our instincts, intuition, gut feelings. Not sure mine is telling me cancer, just that something is not right. I will let you all know when I hear something. Thanks again! Cemjo |
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Naomi Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 291 |
Nov 10, 2008 09:27 am
Naomi wrote:
cemjo3, women with dense breasts pose a real challenge when it comes to screenings. It's like trying to find a needle in a haystack, but, they can't even find the haystack!!! I HAD very dense breasts, and my cancer was missed. DEFINITELY FOLLOW YOUR INSTINCTS, that is why we have them. It isn't for your doctor to decide if you want to be a pin cushion or not, that is purely up to you to make the call, and he SHOULD RESPECT THAT!!! Hoping that you get answers to your questions soon! Dx 5/16/2005, IDC, 5cm, Stage IIIc, Grade 2, 10/17 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- |
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