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mkl48 Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 972 |
May 11, 2007 06:04 pm mkl48 wrote: I read it and wonder if it was a typo that says large amounts of uncooked cabbage inhibits cell death? Beth This is in the section on the polish study |
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BlindedBySc… Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 546 |
May 11, 2007 06:50 pm
BlindedByScience wrote:
I think I found the section--check out the excerpt below. I believe the use of the word 'inhibit' is incorrect and they actually mean 'induce', but note they say that cooking cabbage for a long time inactivates its cancer-fighting properties--and I think that's correct. <font>o The U.S. component of the Polish Womens Health Study found that women who consumed raw- or short-cooked cabbage and sauerkraut 3 or more times weekly had a significantly reduced risk of breast cancer [3 ]. <font>o Cabbage that was cooked for a long time had no effect on breast cancer risk.<font> o Researchers suggested that glucosinolates, compounds in cabbage, may affect both the initiation phase of carcinogenesis*, cell mutation*, and (?) inhibit(?) apoptosis*.<!--color--></font> |
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LizM Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 1,832 |
May 12, 2007 09:55 pm LizM wrote: Thank you so much for the link. I am printing it off now. I have read many many books on diet and breast cancer. This booklet has a lot of really good information. |
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Pio Joined: May 2007 Posts: 1 |
May 15, 2007 01:12 am Pio wrote: Great resource. Really liked the section on meal plans and recipes. I was wondering, what do you think about the recommendations for eating soy products. I've heard/read so many conflicting ideas about this, especially for HER2+ cancer. |
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Rabbit_fan Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 153 |
Nov 10, 2009 11:55 am
Rabbit_fan wrote:
I'm bumping this thread because this booklet is the most useful resource I've found on BCO. It cites hundreds of studies showing that specific nutritional choices can reduce risk of breast cancer, recurrence, and mortality in survivors. For all of the naysayers, the operative word is REDUCE - no one is saying nutrition is a guarantee that none of those things will happen. Obviously some people could follow all of the advice and still get cancer or a recurrence. But the evidence here shows that a great number of people would benefit from the same nutritional choices. Dx at age 45 via screening mammo. Oncoplastic lumpectomy, radiation, tamoxifen. Oncotype 11-refused chemo.
Diagnosis: 4/2009, ILC, <1cm, Stage Ib, Grade 2, 0/3 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- |
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RunswithSci… Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 337 |
Nov 10, 2009 03:44 pm
RunswithScissors wrote:
I'm confused about this point made in the booklet: "Additionally, a low fat, high carbohydrate diet may result in a significant reduction in breast density, Why would we want to decrease breast density? Isn't losing density a sign of aging - therefore degenerative? If you have two loaves of bread, sell one and buy a lily - Chinese Proverb
Diagnosis: 3/2009, IDC, 4cm, Stage IIIb, 8/9 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- |
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Blundin2005… Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,012 |
Nov 10, 2009 04:26 pm
Blundin2005 wrote:
This is a good reminder. Thanks for the bump. Best wishes, Marilyn DX 15 Aug '05, Stage1/grade1, 1.5 cm, IDC/DCIS, 0/2 nodes, ER+PR-,HER2 5% Dx Oct 2008 bladder papilloma low grade
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Rabbit_fan Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 153 |
Nov 10, 2009 07:57 pm, edited Nov 10, 2009 07:58 PM
by Rabbit_fan
Rabbit_fan wrote:
Pill - take a look at the clinical trials and research forum - there is a recent thread there that mentions breast density as a risk factor for cancer. So I think that would be why you want to reduce it. I'd go for saggy over cancer any day! Dx at age 45 via screening mammo. Oncoplastic lumpectomy, radiation, tamoxifen. Oncotype 11-refused chemo.
Diagnosis: 4/2009, ILC, <1cm, Stage Ib, Grade 2, 0/3 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- |
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Rabbit_fan Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 153 |
Nov 10, 2009 07:59 pm
Rabbit_fan wrote:
You're welcome, Marilyn. Best wishes to you, too! Dx at age 45 via screening mammo. Oncoplastic lumpectomy, radiation, tamoxifen. Oncotype 11-refused chemo.
Diagnosis: 4/2009, ILC, <1cm, Stage Ib, Grade 2, 0/3 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- |
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Morgan513 Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 509 |
Nov 10, 2009 09:07 pm
Morgan513 wrote:
Thank you! Lorrie Diagnosis: 4/9/2008, 2cm, Stage IIa, Grade 3, 0/3 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2- |
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RunswithSci… Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 337 |
Nov 11, 2009 08:59 am
RunswithScissors wrote:
I'm having trouble making sense of that. I'll have to look a that thread you mentioned. It just sounds cockeyed. If you have two loaves of bread, sell one and buy a lily - Chinese Proverb
Diagnosis: 3/2009, IDC, 4cm, Stage IIIb, 8/9 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- |
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Jelson Joined: May 2009 Posts: 152 |
Nov 11, 2009 09:57 am, edited Nov 11, 2009 10:00 AM
by Jelson
Jelson wrote:
Pill, with regards to breast density, I too had always thought it was a good thing and when told I had thin tissue breasts while in my twenties, I was, well crushed. I was curious too about a quote from a British doc regarding the study on breast density and BC and recurrence implying that women can do to reduce breast density, I wondered what those things were. Apparently, from the booklet discussed in this thread, diet is one thing. I found reference to the publication of the study on breast density and breast cancer recurrence on the BBC website. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/8345245.stm, I also tried to read the original article in CANCER but it is only available if you pay when it is online before actual publication?? anyway, what I found intriguing in the BBC article was this quote: Dr. Steven Narod, of the Women's College Hospital in Toronto, Canada, said: "The composition of the breast tissue surrounding the breast cancer is important in predicting whether or not a breast cancer will return after surgery. "Breast density has been found to be modifiable to some extent by physical activity and hormone therapy." Diagnosis: 4/17/2009, DCIS, <1cm, Stage 0, Grade 3, 0/0 nodes, ER+/PR+ |
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