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  • Posted on: Nov 4, 2009 08:47 am
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rkt wrote:

Dear All,

I was trying to find info on seromas and came across a thread in the reconstruction site regarding chronic seromas.  I am posting my contribution here in the surgery forum in hopes that someone who reads this forum will be able to offer some advice.    I am so tired of battling this. 

Thanks,

Becky 

I think this might be what I am battling! This coming Friday (Nov 6) will be six months since my mastectomy.  Once drains were removed, I had to go to doctor's office once or twice a week to have fluid drained (towards the end, it was about 50 cc every week or so).  I battled infection starting mid-July when I was undergoing radiation (not in breast, but UTI, went on antibiotics, developed both yeast infection and hives, was on antibiotics, steroids and antifungal all at same time.  During this time (in July), I was drained one Monday, had a horrible night Monday night with pain throughout mastectomy site.  Plus my mastectomy scar changed - it developed really hard ridges (about 1 inch thick), and skin pulled - whole scar sort of looked like a field that hasn't had any rain - lots of ruts and ridges.  Pretty much stayed on antibiotics through August and September - had bout of cellulitis (according to PCP), lymphangitis (according to surgeon), finally was released from surgeon saying I didn't need to come back until December (no need to drain seroma anymore).  10 days later developed redness, warmth and pain across mastectomy site - diagnosed with abcess extending from sternum to underarm area - had to be surgically drained. Had vancomycin (IV) for three days in hospital, then went on Zyvox for 10 days, then bactrum for 7 (sinus infection).  Surgery was a month ago today.   Have been seeing surgeon once or twice throughout October.  He released me (again) last Monday, said he would see me in February.  I had been off of antibiotics 1 week.  On Wednesday, redness, warmth and pain returned in area right next to sternum.  So I am back on antibiotics, can push fluid around - still have three open incisions along my scar that are weeping.  If you push on the ridges, they stay depressed (sort of like that foam everyone sleeps on, if you get the picture).  Eventually pop back out. 

So, is surgery the answer?  I really don't want to have surgery again (twice already this year), but then again, school is over first week in December, don't have to go back until January, and have more than met out of pocket this year -

Any other ways that people have resolved the issue?  I was reading about having alcohol or talc powder put into the cavity - I think they call is seromadesis?  or having the inside surface of the seroma cavity removed - is that a capsulectomy?

Thanks in advance,

Becky

Becky, Stage IV, bone mets, ER+/PR+, HER2-, diagnosed June 2008, right mastectomy May 2009, 0/13 nodes
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CoolBreeze
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Nov 4, 2009 02:39 pm CoolBreeze wrote:

I'm sorry you are dealing with this. I'm only two weeks out from surgery but have developed a mild seroma.  My doctor has me wrapped tight in a compressioon bandage with a piece of foam core pressing against the wound.  I guess that's to keep fluid from filling the empty space.  It's worked so far, the seroma has gotten no bigger and to my untrained eye, appears to be going away.  I'll find out tomorrow.

Did they ever try that with you?  It mgith be too late since you've been battling it so long.  I'm so sorry you have to deal with this.  :(

Ann's cancer blog. http://butdoctorihatepink.blogspot.com/
Diagnosis: 8/17/2009, IDC, 4cm, Grade 3, 0/3 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2+
rkt
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Nov 4, 2009 02:48 pm rkt wrote:

Dear Ann,

They did - first with gause, then will the compression bandage and foam.  Probably spent first 6 weeks that way.  It did seem to lessen the buildup - I could actually hear it sloshing around before he had me start using the compression bandage.  I am taking the articles I have found on chronic seroma to the doctor in the morning to discuss. 

I am wondering if this has to do with poor lymph drainage - day before my mastectomy, they did lymphoscitography (inject the radioactive stuff into the mass, then see where it drains) to identify sentinel node - They scanned me three times, the radioactive stuff just sat there, never moved. they couldn't find sentinel node, so I ended up having full node disection.  I may just have had very poor drainage from the start.  Maybe that is why it has persisted so long.

Thanks!

Becky

Becky, Stage IV, bone mets, ER+/PR+, HER2-, diagnosed June 2008, right mastectomy May 2009, 0/13 nodes
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Nov 4, 2009 03:17 pm London-Virginia wrote:

Crikey - you have had a rally rough ride - I am sorry.

I haven't had an MX, but I had a big op that was lumpectomy plus breast reduction.  I got an infection in hospital.  Cut a story short, what really helped a lot to heal things and get rid of swelling soreness etc etc  was medical grade Honey dressings.  I had a wound nurse helping me over a couple of months and she used these for loads of people.  In England, they are called Activon Tulle honey dressings (or something very similar).  I really had very bad wounds and not much skin, so believe me when I suggest this could really help you too.

Hope this helps and good luck -

Virginia.
Diagnosis: 5/9/2009, IDC, 2cm, Stage IIb, Grade 3, 1/2 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
DATO
Joined: Jun 2006
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Nov 4, 2009 03:19 pm DATO wrote:

When I saw the title of your post I thought I might be able to help, but wow, you've gone through some horrible stuff, much worse than I did.  I developed a seroma after my hysterectomy.  It was an 8 cm long tunnel between my skin and muscle.  I went in every day except weekends to have the seroma packed with gauze.  They also tried packing it with gauze with silver nitrate in it.  I did this from June until November. It got infected once.  The only thing I have to offer, that hasn't been mentioned, is diet.  They kept asking me if I was eating well.  I always said yes because I wasn't eating fast food or lots of sweets.  Finally, they asked me to tell them what I ate on a typical day.  It turns out that I wasn't eating enough protein.  I only had protein at dinner.  When I upped my protein intake the seroma started healing.  I don't know if this will help you in your situation, but I hope so; you've been through enough.  Good luck.


Diagnosis: 5/12/2006, IDC, 1cm, Stage IIIa, Grade 3, 6/9 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-

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