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  • Posted on: Oct 14, 2009 10:12 pm
Joined: Sep 2008
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cleomoon wrote:
My MRI and Mammo were both read as no suspicions of cancer this month. At first I celebrated, but now I am back wondering whether to have a prophylactic. I looked at my Mammo films and like my MRI my breasts are a snowstorm of white. I am only 44 and the density is not likely to decrease anytime soon. Of course my thoughts go to the worse..."it's lurking in there and the tests are blinded by the amount of snow." It's 50  50 in my mind whether I will get cancer in my lifetime. My left breast hurts almost all the time now cause of the fibrocystic disease and it makes it hard to not think about my breasts. Maybe I will flip a coin and guess whether it is heads or tails and see how many times I guess right to see how the 50 50 thing turns out. My BS who I adore pushed the prophy option again today. I guess I will just have to keep struggling through this process...
Thank heavens for you all.

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leaf
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 5,944
Oct 15, 2009 06:33 am leaf wrote:

My heart goes out to you, cleomoon.  It is so complicated to make this decision.

If you're going through hell, keep going-Winston Churchill
Mykidsmom
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 1,446
Oct 16, 2009 07:15 pm, edited Oct 16, 2009 07:15 PM by Mykidsmom Mykidsmom wrote:

Cleomoon - I am so sorry you are dealing w/ all this. Feel free to PM me if you want to just think it through. I can tell you that a PBM is not as awful as we all think it will be. But it is a very tough and personal decision. Hugs. - Jean

Prophylactic Bilateral Mastectomy w/ Tissue Expanders - 12/08 Exchange 04/09
Diagnosis: 8/25/2008, LCIS, Stage 0
macksix6
Los Angeles, ca
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 74
Oct 16, 2009 10:48 pm macksix6 wrote:

Cleomoon I am so sorry that you are going through this. It is a very difficult personal decision. For me I am 3 weeks out from bilateral stacked diep/lumbar reconstruction (left breast prophylactic) Both of my breasts were very dense and lite up like Xmas trees on mamo's. I wanted to take control of my health and if I had to have a mastectomy on my right breast I was not going to go through this again. I am 55 yrs old and did not want to have to deal with this again in 10yrs. I am done with it and moving on with my life. I am very happy with my results. I have soft warm breasts that look and feel like the real deal, and a tummy of a 16yr old.

DRT
Vero Beach, FL
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 18
Oct 18, 2009 08:00 pm DRT wrote:

Hi Cleomoon,

My hx is very similar to yours (see LCIS forum, close monitoring post from me for details) I am 3 weeks post PBM and I must say, the relief is already enormous.  No further MRIs, biopsies, lumps, calcifications, etc. I was very lucky to have immediate reconstruction with implants, so I really lucked out in the TE route. But even so, I was totally prepared to go that way if my PS deemed it necessary. I will be 50 in the spring and cannot imagine dealing with all these tests and uncertainty forever. For me, PBM was the best decision. Good luck, go with your heart and get informed. Good luck, stay well.

Denise


Diagnosis: 6/2005, LCIS
Anne1962
IA
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 26
Oct 19, 2009 01:42 am Anne1962 wrote:

cleomoon, you sound a lot like me. I have ALH and dense breasts. A PBM has also been recommended  by my breast surgeon. I still don't know what I'm going to do for sure, but am leaning more towards a PBM. I will have a BSGI in January; maybe that will make it easier to make a decision. Can anyone tell me what their experience was with a BSGI. Do calcifications and ALH show up on it? A PBM is a huge decision. Can I really justify getting one "IF" I don't have cancer? It seems like such a drastic measure!

Denise, It must be soooo awesome to be post PBM. What was your reconstruction like? I am small and I heard that it can be very painful trying to stretch everything. How long were you in the hospital, when can you start exercising, etc., etc.?

Thanks and Good Luck,

Anne1962 

Anne1962
Mykidsmom
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 1,446
Oct 19, 2009 07:54 am Mykidsmom wrote:

Anne - The one thing that my oncoogist told me that finally settled it in my mind was - for me it was not a matter of IF I was going to get bc, it was WHEN. He felt quite certain that I would be dealing w/ a mastectomy in the future. My bs didn't put it quite the same way, he said that I would be dealing w/ repetitive bx over the years. I had already had three. So, it is not always a drastic decision to have a PBM even w/o an actual dx of bc.

I was in the hospital for three nights, but most of my surgeon/PS patients only stay 1 or 2 nights. I have a bleeding disorder that required extended stay. The pain is well controlled w/ the On-Que and other pain meds. And my reconstruction was not a big deal. Actually, it gave me something to focus on while I was recovering. I was able to start walking again fairly soon after surgery, and I was back up to a slow 3 miles within a few weeks.

Best wishes. - Jean

Prophylactic Bilateral Mastectomy w/ Tissue Expanders - 12/08 Exchange 04/09
Diagnosis: 8/25/2008, LCIS, Stage 0
DRT
Vero Beach, FL
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 18
Oct 19, 2009 08:04 am DRT wrote:

Good Morning,

I was very lucky, one night in the hospital, home on oral pain meds only (didn't need to take many at all) I also lucked out with one step implants that did not require alloderm. So I came home with 550 cc silicone implants and won't need TE. (I think my years of tennis in the past helped pump up my pecs so they were able to safely handle such a sizable implant) I am having stretchy aching feelings, but nothing a little ibuprofen can't handle. Sutures came out on Friday and wounds look fine. I will get the nip recon as soon as PS gives me the go ahead.

As far as exercise and mobility goes, I was able to shower and shampoo myself on day 3, when my drains came out. I have been able to go for walks (DH gets to handle the dog however) since the first few days. Today is my first full day back at work, I did half days last week, mornings only. It was very nice to go home to a nap those afternoons.

Good luck, you have lots of support here!

Denise


Diagnosis: 6/2005, LCIS
cleomoon
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 351
Oct 19, 2009 11:32 am cleomoon wrote:

Denise thank you for sharing your experience. Congratulations on having the surgery and reconstruction behind you Smile

Macksix6 congratulations to you too!!

Anne thank you for offering PMing. I may just take u up on the offer. 

Having you all here makes this so much easier.I have an appt set up with my BS at the end of Nov. to discuss the PBM in more detail and ask about reconstruction. 

((Hugs)) 

Shoshi
MD
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 78
Oct 26, 2009 09:01 pm Shoshi wrote:

wow, u sound like me. I have been told i have LCIS (?) if i'm getting all these initials correct..i have very dense breast & i will be 50 in a few yrs.  I have had numerous biopsies & lumpectomy & i cannot deal with this anymore. Every 6 months i feel i have to go thru it again..so i have decided to go for a mastectomy & i will get the 1 step implant. My date is Dec 15th.  It's nice to hear from-others who do NOT have cancer yet, but have gone thru so much & have decided to get this done.

cleomoon
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 351
Oct 27, 2009 12:34 am cleomoon wrote:

Congratulations on having your surgery scheduled. I am still working on getting to that point...actually telling my breast surgeon it's a go. I meet with her the end of November and hope by then I have come to accept having a PBM.

Mykidsmom
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 1,446
Oct 27, 2009 07:15 pm Mykidsmom wrote:

Shoshi - You will be almost exactly one year behind me. Best wishes and gentle hugs going your way! - Jean

Prophylactic Bilateral Mastectomy w/ Tissue Expanders - 12/08 Exchange 04/09
Diagnosis: 8/25/2008, LCIS, Stage 0
Kimber
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 316
Oct 30, 2009 08:08 pm Kimber wrote:

oh ladies, I wish I knew what to do.  I am almost jealous of you all that have made the decision and are on the other side of PBM, especially you, Denise, since you were able to go direct to implants.  I was diagnosed with LCIS in 1/08 and since then have had two biopsies that were horrific.  I have my "close monitoring" MRI on Monday 11-2 and I found a lump this wk.  I have never had lumps, only suspicious lesions that show up on MRI.  This thing is hard and about twice the size of a pea and is pretty much under my lumpectomy scar.....I have been on tamox for 20 mos and all of a sudden my left breast is "acting up".  It's sore, it's bigger than the other, and it is very lumpy, bumpy and ropey.  Then there is this LUMP. I'll know more next wk and if I need another biopsy I am seriously considering PBM.  I found a dr in my area that does skin-sparing-direct-to-implant and I am a perfect candidate for that.  I just want to know - does the anxiety go away when your breasts are gone???  I stopped tamox for 1 wk thinking it was causing me to feel so bad, but started back on it because I am scared of everything that is "cooking" in there.  In addition to LCIS I have a lot of other cell changes...

 Any advice, etc is greatly appreciated!

XO


Diagnosis: 1/15/2008, LCIS, 6cm+, Stage 0, ER+/PR+
cleomoon
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 351
Oct 30, 2009 08:25 pm cleomoon wrote:

Oh Kimber :(

So sorry you have yet other suspicious breast stuff happening again. I just went through the close monitoring screen, and it's so tough, no matter if you have been through it before. I will be sending you lots of B-9 wishes on Monday.

The decision just plain sucks!! I have decided to have the surgery myself and will tell my surgeon when I see her Nov 27. I wish it were easier for us.

((HUGS))

Kimber
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 316
Oct 30, 2009 08:37 pm Kimber wrote:

Thanks cleomoon....

It seems I am always back here in Oct/Nov.  Thanks for the well wishes.  I will let everyone know what MRI says.... 


Diagnosis: 1/15/2008, LCIS, 6cm+, Stage 0, ER+/PR+
awb
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 2,764
Oct 30, 2009 08:37 pm awb wrote:

Kimber---I just sent you a PM. Praying you get good results from your MRI.

Anne

"I don't know what the future holds, but I know who holds the future"
Diagnosis: 9/5/2003, LCIS, Stage 0, 0/0 nodes
LeeMcC
Charlotte, NC
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 110
Oct 30, 2009 08:52 pm LeeMcC wrote:

Hi all -- I am nearly 6 weeks out from BMX (prophylactic on left) with DIEP Flap reconstruction done down in Charleston, SC, with great surgical team headed by Dr. James Craigie!

I was small breasted and 47 at diagnosis (3 months ago). I had LCIS diagnosis at first, which after excisional biopsy/lumpectomy becamse extensive PLCIS mixed with DCIS and a very small invasive. Lumpectomy would have distorted my breast.

My sentinel node was clean ... so the surgery did it. No rads or chemo. Now I'm 48 with (like macksix6) soft warm round breasts that match and stand up on their own now (full B with volume and cleavage!) ... and the tummy I had when I was 18. Woo Hoo!

I wish everyone the best of luck with their very PERSONAL decisions. Take the time you need. I didn't rush -- it took me 4 weeks.I talked with plastic surgeons and post-recon women about DIEP vs implants ... and I made the best decision for me. I wasn't in love with the small, droopy breasts I had, so getting a new perky pair was part of my decision. I also wanted them to match and not to have to worry about the other side all the time.

Lee

7/09 IDC 4mm , ER+ PR+ Her2-; DCIS and LCIS 5 cm
Diagnosis: 7/21/2009, IDC, <1cm, Stage I, Grade 2, ER+/PR+, HER2-
leaf
Joined: Dec 2005
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Oct 31, 2009 07:24 am leaf wrote:

Oh, Kimber, I'm so sorry you are going through this!

If you're going through hell, keep going-Winston Churchill
formykids
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 73
Oct 31, 2009 09:41 am formykids wrote:

Kimber I am so sorry you are going through this.  It is good that your doctor is sending you for a MRI. Hoping and praying you get good results.


Diagnosis: 7/8/2009, LCIS, Stage 0, 0/0 nodes
Mykidsmom
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 1,446
Oct 31, 2009 06:29 pm Mykidsmom wrote:

Kimber - To answer your question, yes, the worry is gone for me! Hugs my dear! - Jean

Prophylactic Bilateral Mastectomy w/ Tissue Expanders - 12/08 Exchange 04/09
Diagnosis: 8/25/2008, LCIS, Stage 0
Stonebrook1…
NY
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 131
Nov 1, 2009 12:29 am, edited Nov 1, 2009 01:19 AM by Stonebrook108 Stonebrook108 wrote:

Kimber,

I'm so sorry that your going through this. I found out last Nov. I had LCIS. So I remember how I felt last year at this time.Very confused, couldn't think straight.  I felt like a truck hit me. I decided to have a PBM with direct implants and be done with the LCIS. It was a very difficult decision but, it is doable. Now one year later I'm still glad I had the surgery.

If I can help you out please send me a PM. I have a list of questions that you could take to your PS.If you would like them let me know.

Take care,

Ann

Shoshi
MD
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 78
Nov 1, 2009 05:41 pm Shoshi wrote:

Kimber, i have been down that road so much already...as much as i know the surgery is painful & has complications that can happen ..i am looking "forward" to NOT worrying anymore..my thoughts & prayers r w/ u !!!

shoshi
Anne1962
IA
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 26
Nov 1, 2009 05:46 pm Anne1962 wrote:

Stonebrook,

I am considering a nipple/skin sparing PBM. Did you do it without TE and drains and all the other painful things that seem to along with it? Were you small to begin with? I am worried that I'm not big enough to go bigger. I am an "A" cup and would like to go bigger, if I can. Was the stretching overly painful? I started out thinking it would be no big deal; now I'm worried about making the wrong decision.

Thanks,

Anne1962 

Anne1962
Stonebrook1…
NY
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 131
Nov 1, 2009 09:56 pm, edited Nov 2, 2009 04:40 PM by Stonebrook108 Stonebrook108 wrote:

Anne1962

Too many Anne's and Ann's...lol

If you have a mast. you have to have drains. The BS or the PS figures out how many at the time of surgery. I did not have tissue expanders. My PS did what they call one step or direct to implants. I did not have nipple sparing because my BS feel's the LCIS I had could show up again in the nipples. I myself wouldn't take the chance of getting cancer in the nipples after going through a BM just to keep my nipples. Besides my PS said he would give me great nipples and he did.

So I'm pleased with the decisions I've made.

Best of luck

Ann

Kimber
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 316
Nov 2, 2009 02:03 pm Kimber wrote:

Hi ladies, just back from MRI.  Now, we wait......

 Stonebrook (Ann),  yes would you PM me that list of questions?  I feel like I am pretty well versed, but I also feel like I am entering that place again where I am living outside of myself to cope. Whatever this lump is,  it is very hard and doesn't move.  It's like nothing I have ever had before since my LCIS did not present as a lump.  It is on the same side as my lumpectomy, but there is always a lot of stuff going on on that side.  That breast is even bigger than the other one suddenly.

Anyway, I will post when I have some answers. See surgeon on Wed at 2.

Thanks for listening,

Kimber 


Diagnosis: 1/15/2008, LCIS, 6cm+, Stage 0, ER+/PR+
Mykidsmom
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 1,446
Nov 2, 2009 06:54 pm Mykidsmom wrote:

Kimber - We are thinking of you!!!!!!!!!!

Prophylactic Bilateral Mastectomy w/ Tissue Expanders - 12/08 Exchange 04/09
Diagnosis: 8/25/2008, LCIS, Stage 0
Kimber
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 316
Nov 2, 2009 07:51 pm Kimber wrote:

Thanks mykidsmom!  Any good thoughts are appreciated....I hate this waiting.....


Diagnosis: 1/15/2008, LCIS, 6cm+, Stage 0, ER+/PR+
leaf
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 5,944
Nov 3, 2009 12:36 am leaf wrote:

Keeping our fingers crossed for you, Kimber!

If you're going through hell, keep going-Winston Churchill
awb
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 2,764
Nov 3, 2009 09:58 am awb wrote:

Kimber--praying it is nothing more than scar tissue.

Anne

"I don't know what the future holds, but I know who holds the future"
Diagnosis: 9/5/2003, LCIS, Stage 0, 0/0 nodes
Stonebrook1…
NY
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 131
Nov 3, 2009 11:16 pm Stonebrook108 wrote:

Kimber

sending you prayers and good thoughts for Wed's appt.

Ann

Kimber
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 316
Nov 4, 2009 01:00 pm Kimber wrote:

Thanks everyone!  On my way to surgeon now to see what the plan is.


Diagnosis: 1/15/2008, LCIS, 6cm+, Stage 0, ER+/PR+

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