Posted on: Jul 23, 2009 08:29 PM
Lecanto, FL
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buccaneersdj wrote:
The oncologist saying "Ki-67 is 95% wow, that is not good", keeps ringing in my head. And triple negative on top of that, help has anyone ever heard of this number being that high? I now feel like I will be riding my bike uphill, a really tall steep dirt hill and my chain just fell off! Is beating this even do-able??
Dx 6/3/2009, IDC, 2cm, Stage IIa, Grade 3, 0/8 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2-
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LRM216
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Jul 23, 2009 09:52 PM LRM216 wrote:
Mine is high too - at 61%. Onc didn't seem to bothered about it, as I am triple neg, and that makes my nodule more aggressive right from the get-go. Your stats are good, so I wouldn't worry too much about it. Just go as agressive as you can with the chemo. Good luck and keep us posted.
Linda
I have been put on this frightening journey against my will, but I do not have to travel it alone.
Dx 2/23/2009, IDC, 1cm, Stage I, Grade 3, 0/3 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2-
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Jul 23, 2009 10:42 PM fightinhrd123 wrote:
Mine was high too, chemo loves to kill fast mutiplying cells, I had chemo first and not one cancer cell left, and i had at least 2 pos nodes, probably four, so i dont look at my ki67 being high as a bad thing :)
Dx 5/29/2008, IDC, 2cm, Stage IIb, Grade 2, ER-/PR-, HER2+
jdeking
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Jul 24, 2009 11:33 AM jdeking wrote:
I had a high Ki-67 also, in the 80's. Luckily chemo really zaps those rapidly proliferating cells, so look at it as being a good thing. Also, you were node negative, so it seems like your cancer was contained, which is also a good thing!
Good luck to you, you can do this! We are warriors after all.
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Janine
Dx 1/6/2009, IDC, 1cm, Stage IIa, Grade 2, 2/10 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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Jul 24, 2009 11:46 AM, edited Jul 24, 2009 11:49 AM
by lookingforward4more
I just want to say that its a great sign that your nodes were negative. I had Grade 2 and 1 cancer with Ki-67 of 3% and 5% (two tumors in right breast) and also had two positive nodes. My point in telling you this is simply that even with excellent "pathology" my cancer spread to the nodes and yours did not which is a GREAT thing! Keep thinking positive thoughts and fight hard now. Chemo works much better on higher Ki-67 from what I have learned so the medicine is going to help your treatment! You can have a full recovery!
Dx 11/13/2007, IDC, 3cm, Stage IIb, Grade 2, 2/24 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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Jul 26, 2009 04:43 PM, edited Jul 26, 2009 04:46 PM
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Jul 28, 2009 04:49 PM EllenWeav wrote:
we may be twins....my Ki-67 is 98%....same thing, when my oncologist said "this is the fastest growing tumor I've ever seen"..didn't help me much considering he is now retired and a world reknown breast cancer specialist.....I too had no node involvemnet. I was dx Jan of 08...my new oncologist wants to do preventitive chemo again in 2 yrs...I am doing it, because chemo does work great against the aggresive cells....I am clean and clear right now....triple negative as well..would love to compare notes with any others who are triple negative.
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Aug 3, 2009 10:12 AM Kate2z80 wrote:
Where do I find the info on Ki-67? I haven't seen that on any of my reports.
Dx 5/26/2009, IDC, <1cm, Stage I, Grade 2, 0/5 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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Aug 10, 2009 09:36 AM thenewme wrote:
Yikes! I just looked at my path report and mine shows Ki-67 = 100% - is that even possible? I'm triple negative too,and my tumor grew super fast (now I know why!)
Dx 11/2008, IDC, 5cm, Stage IIb, Grade 3, 0/9 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2-
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Aug 12, 2009 07:49 AM angelsabove wrote:
Wow...looked at mine and my ki-67 is 88%. They say chemo works best on the ones that divide the fastest. So I say that would mean the ball is in OUR court.....
May God Bless Us All
Dx 4/28/2009, IDC, 4cm, Stage IIb, Grade 3, 3/13 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2-
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Aug 27, 2009 11:06 AM angelsabove wrote:
bump
Dx 4/28/2009, IDC, 4cm, Stage IIb, Grade 3, 3/13 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2-
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Aug 27, 2009 12:16 PM roxy42 wrote:
Hi mine was high it was 80 and I'm 2 years out doing great no sighn of cancer.Kemo works great for high ki-67.........godbless roxy
weesa
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Aug 27, 2009 12:37 PM weesa wrote:
My ki-67 was very high when I was diagnosed almost seven years ago. It was expressed as "two plus" on my path report. Yet my mitotic rate was only a "1". Never could understand if this is a contradiction. Onc never seemed concerned about ki-67, though. Just recently I had oncotypedx and it came back an 18. I am stage 3a grade 2, er, pr+ her-2 neg. Had dd chemo, rads, mastx, AI's. Still Ned.
This brings me to another thought--since my joining here I have been struck by the number of members like myself, who don't understand their path report or who at least have some major questions about it. I have had stuff haunt me for years. I go to all the "Understanding your path report" type of websites and they are so general they don't give me any insight into mine. I would love to hear from anybody who really understands her path report and let me know how the heck you accomplished this. We seem to be a group of intelligent well informed women who are always on the prowl to learn more--yet this seems to be a common theme for us. Too bad--we shouldn't have to live with mysteries like this.Can't everything be reduced to lay terms? Would love to hear from you guys who share my frustration.
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Aug 27, 2009 01:58 PM connette wrote:
Weesa, I agree totally with you. I have tried to understand my path report but my emotions always seem to get in my way. I always feel that I am the only one with my stats. I am er-/pr+, her2+. In the time since I have joined, I have found only one other person with this dx. and she has not been on the boards lately. I really admire those women that understand what is happening to their bodies. I would love to have an idea what everything means. Thank for posting what I have been thinking. Connette
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Aug 29, 2009 09:10 PM fairy49 wrote:
Weesa! isn't it so frustrating??!! It has taken me nearly a year to figure out my path report, to the point that I think I know it better than my onc! LOL!! I took every single thing on the path report and googled it until I found out what it meant, once I found out what it meant I continued to research to find out exactly what the score meant and so on, it was painful and scary, because I would get results, have no one to ask, and freak myself out! So now I know my path report inside out backwards, do I understand it totally, not yet, but am working on it! I stun my doctors with some on my questions, they give me this deer in the headlights look, I don't think they know that much about the total path report either, I think they have the certain things they look at, and thats that, so sad that we have to figure this all out ourselves! The good thing is, that we can help others that come to this site looking for answers, hopefully....
L
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DX 9-22-08 IDC 1.1cm Stage 1 Grade 2 SNB 0/5 ER+ PR+ HER- Bi-Lat Mas re-con,tissue expanders on 10/29 - Exchange to silicone implants on 3/6/09 Oncotype DX Score 9 - BRCA 1 & 2 Negative.....If God brings you to it, he WILL get you through it
weesa
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Aug 29, 2009 09:26 PM weesa wrote:
fairy49, you bet it's frustrating. I did exactly what you did,pulled each word out of my path report and googled the word until I thought I understood it.But in the context of my report it didn't always fit in. (It reminded me of going to france with my little english to french dictionary, and stringing words together one by one that made no sense to anybody.Everybody burst out laughing.) Anyway, I bet if we polled everybody there would be a lot of folks still pondering stuff. I think we all get the basics like er pr+ but some of the stuff like locations of glands and what does "no vascular invasion mean--don't tumors have to have blood supply to live?--I have a hunch a good many of us have clueless areas of their path reports.I'd love to hear from some of us who have got their path report licked, and no longer yank it out ot the desk drawer periodically to agonize over it.
fairy49
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Aug 30, 2009 02:34 PM fairy49 wrote:
Weesa! you sound like me with the french thing LOL!! made sense to me! teehee!!
I have my path report in a file and its so worn out as I pull it out all the time! shish!! such a friggin pain in the ass to have to learn it all yourself, however, knowledge is power, so I am glad I have learned so much, but still so much to learn! I think I have the big stuff down, but I still pick it to pieces!
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DX 9-22-08 IDC 1.1cm Stage 1 Grade 2 SNB 0/5 ER+ PR+ HER- Bi-Lat Mas re-con,tissue expanders on 10/29 - Exchange to silicone implants on 3/6/09 Oncotype DX Score 9 - BRCA 1 & 2 Negative.....If God brings you to it, he WILL get you through it
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Aug 30, 2009 04:01 PM JaniceRH wrote:
You know, no matter where I look, I cannot find Ki-67 on my path report!! is it called something other than this? what does it pertain to?
Thanks!
Dx 7/30/2009, IDC, <1cm, Stage Ib, Grade 2, 0/1 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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Aug 30, 2009 04:04 PM hrf wrote:
What is Ki-67?
I have never heard of it and don't know what it means.
Helen - BRCA2+ first dx in Oct. 2004 2nd dx Feb. 2009 a new primary
Dx 2/6/2009, ILC, 2cm, Grade 1, 4/6 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
swest
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Aug 31, 2009 11:07 AM swest wrote:
I looked on my path report and cannot find my Ki-67 score. I did find my knottingham score is this the same?
hrf - I think it tells you how agressive your caner is.
Dx 10/22/2008, IDC, 2cm, Stage Ib, Grade 3, 0/3 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2-
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Sep 1, 2009 04:46 AM queenlurker wrote:
weeza, Agonized over my path report yesterday. Seems like I can find something new everytime.
Found a pathology site which said that if a tumor was hormone neg to expect Ki-67 to be 50-90, good thing for me because mine was 87.
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Sep 9, 2009 03:44 AM Brenda_R wrote:
KI67 can also be called Mitotic rate.
Dx 12/12/2006, IDC, 3cm, Stage IIIa, Grade 3, 1/17 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2+
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Sep 20, 2009 05:41 PM MsBliss wrote:
My ki67 was 90% on biopsy, 70% on lumpectomy, also triple negative. My doctor felt that my tumor was only 6 to 12 months old, which is probably why I had neg nodes too. Did your report say anything about medullary features?
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Sep 20, 2009 06:59 PM MsBliss wrote:
A high ki67 is not necessarilly a bad thing--especially if you are doing chemo...it can actually work in your favor. Also, the fact that your nodes were neg means that your tumor may look aggressive but actually behave better.