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Last Login: November 19, 2008
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Diagnosis

Diagnosis: Dx 9/9/2008, ILC, 2cm, Stage IIb, Grade 1, 3/23 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2-
Diagnosed: September 9, 2008
Type: Invasive or Infiltrating Lobular Carcinoma
Recurrent? No recurrence
Metastatic? No
Stage: Stage IIb
Lymph Nodes Removed: 23
Positive Lymph Nodes: 3
Tumor Size: 2cm-2.9cm
Tumor Grade: Grade 1 or low grade
Hormone Receptor Status: Tumor has estrogen receptors but not progesterone receptors
HER2/neu Status: Tumor does not have an excess of HER2/neu receptors or genes

Recent Posts by Seabee

Posted in: Tests, Treatments & Side Effects + Chemotherapy - Before, During and After, Created: Nov 18, 2008 08:12 pm

Should I choose chemo or not?

Sweeetpam,

I'm with the RN.  As my husband says, a doctor is not your boss; s/he is your employee. S/he is an expert (one among many) who gives you advice, but you are free to get and follow better advice at any time.

I notice that many oncologists like to do chemotherapy, just as surgeons like to do surgery. In the case of breast cancer, surgery is mostly essential, so the surgeon doesn't have to sell his or her service. Chemotherapy is often optional, and looking at the posts on this board I see a lot of people with low risk doing chemo anyhow, probably at the urging of an oncologist.

Now I'm not saying that this is dishonest. Most people like to feel that their work benefits others, and people with a potentially deadly illness like to believe that some treatment or other will help them survive. In this situation your best defense is knowledge. You need to know exactly what the benefits and risks of your options are, get more than one opinion, and make your own informed decision. This requires more work than just doing what the doctor ordered, but it can certainly pay off.

Per spem vivo.
Dx 9/9/2008, ILC, 2cm, Stage IIb, Grade 1, 3/23 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2-
Posted in: Tests, Treatments & Side Effects + Chemotherapy - Before, During and After, Created: Nov 18, 2008 02:15 pm

Anyone had a port in the arm?

Bluedasher, those are points worth considering. I'm used to having IVs put in my hand, though, since the big veins in my forearm are hard to find, and I've neiver had a problem with that, so having it a port in the upper arm would probably be even less bother for me.

I'll definitely have to have a port somewhere, since the big vein in my hand retreated after surgery.

Per spem vivo.
Dx 9/9/2008, ILC, 2cm, Stage IIb, Grade 1, 3/23 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2-
Posted in: Tests, Treatments & Side Effects + Chemotherapy - Before, During and After, Created: Nov 18, 2008 10:50 am

Anyone had a port in the arm?

I'm told my surgeon prefers to install them there. I'd appreciate input from anyone who's had experience with this.

Per spem vivo.
Dx 9/9/2008, ILC, 2cm, Stage IIb, Grade 1, 3/23 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2-
Posted in: Connecting With Others Who Have a Similar Diagnosis + ILC (Invasive Lobular Carcinoma), Created: Nov 17, 2008 05:54 pm

invasive lobular carcinoma

You need to gather as much informaiton as possible before you decide on the best option. What course is best depends on the size of the tumor, its location, how extensive the LCIS is and where it is, whether or not any lymph nodes are involved, and if so, how many, the status of the tumor cells' receptors, etc. This site is an excellent source of information for someone who is experiencing a BC diagnosis for the first time. Check it out.

Per spem vivo.
Dx 9/9/2008, ILC, 2cm, Stage IIb, Grade 1, 3/23 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2-
Posted in: Not Diagnosed but Concerned + Not Diagnosed but Worried, Created: Nov 17, 2008 12:50 pm

Very worried,please help

Sammie, what you describe seems more like a cyst than a tumor to me. I had a big one once, and of course I had it checked out.  It went away.  But you need to do something about your  insurance, and make sure that it covers annual mammograms, and that you get them. If nothing else, it will save you the kind of stress and worry that you're experiencing now.

Per spem vivo.
Dx 9/9/2008, ILC, 2cm, Stage IIb, Grade 1, 3/23 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2-
Posted in: Not Diagnosed but Concerned + Not Diagnosed but Worried, Created: Nov 17, 2008 12:36 pm

2 Types of Cancer? - MRI better than Mammograms?

It's OK to be concerned, but a little too early to panic. MRIs do show more detaill than mammograms, but they're not so good at distinguishing between malignant and benign tissue. Only a biopsy can confirm a diagnosis, and MRIs lead to a lot of negataive biopsies, which is one reason (besides expense) why they aren't routinely used for screening. Mammograms, on they other hand, have trouble spotting ILC, as wishiwere mentions.  I'm wondering why no one tried ultrasound, which is often used before MRI.

In any case, wait until you have a biopsy and a diagnosis or a negative result. Then you can either relax or start planning an effective treatment.

Per spem vivo.
Dx 9/9/2008, ILC, 2cm, Stage IIb, Grade 1, 3/23 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2-
Posted in: Tests, Treatments & Side Effects + Surgery - Before, During, and After, Created: Nov 16, 2008 12:11 pm

auxillary Lymph node recover

I think you definitely should get off of it and try another medication for pain relief. It's part Tylenol, so you can try decreasing the Vicodin and increaseing the Tylenol.

Per spem vivo.
Dx 9/9/2008, ILC, 2cm, Stage IIb, Grade 1, 3/23 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2-
Posted in: Connecting With Others Who Have a Similar Diagnosis + ILC (Invasive Lobular Carcinoma), Created: Nov 15, 2008 12:30 pm

What Chemo for ILC

Taxotere + Cytoxin is claimed (now) to be effective for either node negative or node positive, and to lead to longer disease free suvival than the AC combo, which works well for HER2+, but not as well (usually) for HER2-. But these are just generalizations.  If TC didn't work for Jobu, A might.  Lobular is odd in any case in that it seems to be more resistant to chemo than ductal, so whatever works for you, works for you. I'd be very interested in the results of her decision and hope she'll let us know.

Per spem vivo.
Dx 9/9/2008, ILC, 2cm, Stage IIb, Grade 1, 3/23 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2-
Posted in: Tests, Treatments & Side Effects + Surgery - Before, During, and After, Created: Nov 15, 2008 12:00 pm

auxillary Lymph node recover

How long have you been taking Vicodin?  Its effect sometimes tends to wear off after awhile. And of course you shouldn't take it any longer than necessary. If you're still hurting on Tuesday, be sure to take this up with your surgeon.

 The tingling, I"m told, is a good sign.  It means the nerves are healing.

Per spem vivo.
Dx 9/9/2008, ILC, 2cm, Stage IIb, Grade 1, 3/23 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2-
Posted in: Tests, Treatments & Side Effects + Surgery - Before, During, and After, Created: Nov 14, 2008 04:33 pm

auxillary Lymph node recover

You should have been given pain medication and instructions for using it by the nurse that oversaw your postoperative recovery.  What kind of facility did you have this operation in? How long were you hospitalized?

Postoperative pain is variable with each individual, depending partly on your pain threshhold, partly on how well the operation went. Some nerve damage is inevitable during this surgery, but it isn't always painful.

Your doctor should have a nurse who will respond to problems the patient is having by telephone. The nurse can call in a prescription to your pharmacy. In the meantime you can try over-the-counter painkillers. They are probably not strong enough to do the job, but they may help a little.

Per spem vivo.
Dx 9/9/2008, ILC, 2cm, Stage IIb, Grade 1, 3/23 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2-
Posted in: Tests, Treatments & Side Effects + Surgery - Before, During, and After, Created: Nov 12, 2008 07:23 pm

obsessing about ct and bone scan HELP

As everyone says, definitely routine.  My doctor ordered mine *before* surgery.  Your doctor is just being conscientious.

My bone scan showed hot spots in a rib and in my left shoulder which were followed up with x-rays. The spot on the rib was just a healing break, and the one in my shoulder was arthritic. Even if stuff shows up on the bone scan, it's probably not cancerous. The CT scan also picks up many details which are nothing to worry about.

If you wait until you know what the situation is before you start to worry, most of the time there's nothing to worry about. I was always told to avoid borrowing trouble. It's easier said than done, but good advice.

Per spem vivo.
Dx 9/9/2008, ILC, 2cm, Stage IIb, Grade 1, 3/23 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2-
Posted in: Connecting With Others Who Have a Similar Diagnosis + ILC (Invasive Lobular Carcinoma), Created: Nov 11, 2008 12:57 pm

MD Anderson?

I agree that an exploratory attitude is an asset in a researcher. He's also interested in some of the subtypes of BC, which is fairly uncommon.

Not all of Christofanelli's papers are online, but some of them  are. You can probably find them by putting his name in your browser. I found them by using subject keywords like chemotherapy, lobular carcinoma, etc.

Per spem vivo.
Dx 9/9/2008, ILC, 2cm, Stage IIb, Grade 1, 3/23 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2-
Posted in: Connecting With Others Who Have a Similar Diagnosis + ILC (Invasive Lobular Carcinoma), Created: Nov 11, 2008 01:10 am

MD Anderson?

I have come across several of Christofanelli's papers which involve ILC, the most interesting one (to me) being the one in which he found that lobular doesn't respond as well to neoadjuvant chemotherapy as IDC, but contrary to the researchers' expectation has a better survivial rate. The same results have shown up in other studies as well, in one of which ILC had a dismal pCR of 4.8 %, less than half that of IDC. But Christofanelli's papers are different from most others in the he tends to raise more questions than he answers,

Per spem vivo.
Dx 9/9/2008, ILC, 2cm, Stage IIb, Grade 1, 3/23 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2-
Posted in: Connecting With Others Who Have a Similar Diagnosis + ILC (Invasive Lobular Carcinoma), Created: Nov 11, 2008 12:35 am

Adryomicin for Invasive Lobular Anyone?

I agree with Gitane. Decide and don't look back. You have the best advice you're going to get from specialists, and if they don't agree, then there is merit to either option. Trust your own gut feeling and go with it.

Per spem vivo.
Dx 9/9/2008, ILC, 2cm, Stage IIb, Grade 1, 3/23 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2-
Posted in: Day to Day Matters + Humor and Games, Created: Nov 9, 2008 04:38 pm

Movies

American History X

Per spem vivo.
Dx 9/9/2008, ILC, 2cm, Stage IIb, Grade 1, 3/23 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2-
Posted in: Connecting With Others Who Have a Similar Diagnosis + ILC (Invasive Lobular Carcinoma), Created: Nov 7, 2008 06:46 pm

tamoxifen not for ILC???

You might want to look at a study by Christofanilli et al. of 1,035 patients with IDC and ILC. The patients with ILC were older, had more advanced and lower-grade carcinoma, and had a relatively poor response to chemotherapy compared to patients with IDC. However, the five-year survival rate of those with ILC was better. I cited one report of this study in an earlier post in this thread, but it can be found at other sites as well. Another study comparing patients with IDC and ILC fourd that the patients with ILC tended to be E+ and HER2-, had lower-grade tumors and survived longer. The same findings show up in a number of studies. Just put "invasive ductal and lobular carcinoma" in your browser and you'll find them.

It's true that these studies involve interpretation and theorizing, but when a number of studies produce  the same or similar findings, I tend to think that there must be some truth to them.

Per spem vivo.
Dx 9/9/2008, ILC, 2cm, Stage IIb, Grade 1, 3/23 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2-
Posted in: Tests, Treatments & Side Effects + Chemotherapy - Before, During and After, Created: Nov 7, 2008 02:01 pm

Problem caused due to leak of Chemo in the Breast

Sorry, I don't have that information, but the pharmacutical company you order from should have it, or your doctor should be able to find this out.

Per spem vivo.
Dx 9/9/2008, ILC, 2cm, Stage IIb, Grade 1, 3/23 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2-
Posted in: Connecting With Others Who Have a Similar Diagnosis + ILC (Invasive Lobular Carcinoma), Created: Nov 7, 2008 01:53 am

MD Anderson?

If you look at Christofanelli's publications, you will see that his main research interest is inflammatory BC.

Per spem vivo.
Dx 9/9/2008, ILC, 2cm, Stage IIb, Grade 1, 3/23 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2-
Posted in: Connecting With Others Who Have a Similar Diagnosis + ILC (Invasive Lobular Carcinoma), Created: Nov 7, 2008 01:45 am

Will more chemo help invasive lobular carcinoma?

I'm moving to this thread because someething is wrong with the margins in the other one.

Since you are stage IIa, no node involvement, you could take the Oncotype Dx test, which gives you an idea of how likely you are to have a recurrence. If the score is higher, you could take the more aggressive approach and hope that it works.  If the score is low, you could take the hormonal route with more confidence. The test apparently does help with decision making, partly by boiling the issue down to a number.

Stage IIa is not very different from stage I in terms of percentages. You're pretty lucky. And lobular is generallly less aggressive than ductal in spite of its tendency to spread out, so that may work in your favor also.Whatever you decide, your chances of survival are quite good.

Per spem vivo.
Dx 9/9/2008, ILC, 2cm, Stage IIb, Grade 1, 3/23 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2-
Posted in: Connecting With Others Who Have a Similar Diagnosis + ILC (Invasive Lobular Carcinoma), Created: Nov 7, 2008 01:13 am

Adryomicin for Invasive Lobular Anyone?

Well, there you are.  Maybe if you have a differnt variety of ILC and are HER2 - Adriamycin does work, or works for some other reason. But obviously it doesn't work for a number of HER2 - people, which his where the results of the clinical trials and one of your oncologists' opinion come from. And of course there's the remote possibility of heart damage, which most people who do it escape, of course.

Chemotherapy resistance testing is pretty much in the developmental stage and probably isn't entirely reliable--unfortunately.

 Getting a third opinion is certainly a possibility, but it might not clarify the issue, since two oncologists who seem to be reputable disagree.

I'm still not sure what the status of the lobular cancer is. Is some still there after surgery, or is it possible recurrence that is the concern of the oncologist who suggests a more aggressive approach?

Per spem vivo.
Dx 9/9/2008, ILC, 2cm, Stage IIb, Grade 1, 3/23 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2-

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