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  • Posted on: May 11, 2008 09:20 am
mary6204 wrote:

There has got to be some medicine out there that will work for me.  Compazine did nothing, Zofran helps for one day.  Today I took Tigan and it's helping just a tiny bit.  I don't want to stay in bed dizzy for 4 days, but it's odd because I don't get hit with it til day 5 through 8.  By that time all the steriods and emend which I took Day 1 through 3 has worn off.  

It doesn't sound like many woman have this problem so late into the cycle, but if there's something anyone could suggest I try, I would really appreciate it.  I'm so dizzy I just can't take it anymore. Mary


Dx 2/7/2008, IDC, 1cm, Stage I, Grade 3, 0/2 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2+
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emma45
Joined: Dec 2007
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May 11, 2008 09:44 am emma45 wrote:

I used a drug called anzamet. This worked well for me but it seems not alot of doctors use it these days. There is also Emend that seems to have worked well for others. Don't give up, make them work with you to find the one that works for you. They gave me a script for compazine too but they said it was for 'break through' nausea, not the main line of defense.

NancyD
Joined: Feb 2008
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May 11, 2008 01:53 pm NancyD wrote:

mary,

My last two tx, I've not gotten the Emend pills. I felt they were giving me too many anti-nauseau drugs and that was constipating me. So, since the Emend was the most expensive, and not regularly part of my chemo kit, I said to do without it.

I start the steroids the day before...I think they help a bit with the nausea besides the allergic reactions...then before any chemo is infused, I get a bag of Kytril. Then when I go home I start the Compozine pills and take them every six hours, whether I'm nauseous or not. This last tx, I was able to stop them on Day #5. 

Something that might need looking into are your ears. Since dizziness is also controled by your inner ear, maybe you have something going on in there due to the chemo. I know my onc always looks into my ears during my pre-chemo check-up, so it must mean something.

mary6204
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May 11, 2008 03:56 pm mary6204 wrote:

Thanks Nancy, that's interesting that you mention ears.  I told my husband the other day that my ear is clogged; I never thought it could be related. 

Otherwise I called the pharmacist and he told me not to take the emend until the first day I generally get the nausea, which is day 4 or 5.  Too late for this treatment, but I'll wait until the next one and do it right. 

I am feeling a little better, and I'm going to try to eat some dinner.  All I've had otherwise for the last 2 days is Coke.  I'll never want to drink pop again. 

Hope everyone's having a good Mother's Day.  Mary


Dx 2/7/2008, IDC, 1cm, Stage I, Grade 3, 0/2 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2+
azerisoul
Joined: May 2008
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May 11, 2008 04:00 pm azerisoul wrote:

Hi This Is cam, would like to talk with some one who has metastasis, My sister has been diagnosed recently

HeatherBLoc…
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May 11, 2008 06:25 pm HeatherBLocklear wrote:

Hi Azerisoul,

You should probably post your message as a new conversation on the metastatic site. Here's a link:

http://community.breastcancer.org/topic/8

I'm sure you'll get lots of responses.

Hugs,

Annie

pennylane
Joined: Sep 2005
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May 12, 2008 06:46 am pennylane wrote:

Hi Mary, Just my opinion, but I think the pharmacist is wrong about holding off on taking the emend.  I fear you will get really nausious if you do that....please take that drug as instructed, and by that I mean those first couple of days after the chemo....  As for the dizzyness that happens on days 4, 5, etc....Would you consider getting a perscription for valium?  It's kind of an old tranquilizer but kind of a friendly one, in that there are few side effects and for me, has worked wonders for dizzy spells I have had in the past.  Other things I have used included strong peppermint tea and "Ginger Wonder", which is the brand name of a strong ginger extract.  And don't forget the obvious....always lower your head between your legs as soon as the dizzyness starts...the blood rush usually stops it in a few minutes.  Well, I guess those are a few of my tricks, for what it's worth....oh, and just remember...dizzy spells do end sooner than you may think now.  Best wishes to you for a speedy and easy treatment from now on.....Yours truly,P    


Dx 8/1/2005, IDC, 1cm, Stage I, Grade 3, 0/11 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2-
OneBadBoob
Joined: Oct 2007
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May 12, 2008 07:42 am OneBadBoob wrote:

Hi Mary--

I don't know about the dizziness, but I do know that the only thing that worked for me was a combination of Zofran and Phenagran (sp?)

Hope you are feeling better soon.

Jane - Grab the ball and run with the wind!
Dx 7/7/2007, IDC, <1cm, Stage I, Grade 3, 0/2 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
LorenaB
Joined: Feb 2008
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May 12, 2008 07:45 am LorenaB wrote:

Mary, I was given the Emend before I started the chemo infusion.  I also got a drip of Aloxi that seemed to work better than the Zofran for me.  It's too late for this time around but maybe you could ask for the next one?

Hope you're feeling better today.


Dx 12/20/2007, IDC, 1cm, Stage II, Grade 3, 1/11 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
Sierra
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May 12, 2008 08:09 am, edited May 12, 2008 08:10 AM by Sierra Sierra wrote:


I was v. seldom ill
but took Kytril (many yrs ag)
decadron (taxol)
and..

Always kept soda crackers
in purse
Gravol
I do know it is v. important to take this EXACTLY WHEN THEY tell you to.. do not wait I had all my meds lined up on the table :)
drinking coke
or ginger ale

Best to you on your journey

Get after the doctors
to change this, or help you

Hugs


:))

The time is NOW!
lisa39
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May 13, 2008 09:41 am lisa39 wrote:

Hi Mary,

How are your red blood cell counts?  Maybe they are plummeting starting day 5 and your dizziness is a result of that?  

I had dizziness, lightheadedness and shortness of breath due to low red blood count.  20 mg of iron in an over-the-counter supplement has helped me a lot.

Lisa  


Dx 11/29/2007, IDC, 1cm, Stage I, Grade 3, 0/4 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2+
mary6204
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May 31, 2008 03:42 pm mary6204 wrote:

Thanks again for all the advice, I had my 4th treatment Wednesday and the onc wanted to stay on top of it by having me go to the hospital this morning for an IV.  When I got there I had nausea and dizziness and it was even worse when I left.  I went home and straight to bed and the nausea just kept flushing over me in waves which kept me from sleeping even though I'm exhausted.  I finally got up and decided to force feed myself a lite lunch, or actually my husband fixed it,  and I then took my first Ativan.  They gave it to me at the end of the nausea for tx #3 so I didn't need it then. 

It's so weird, it's like it's lifted the feelings from my body and I don't feel too bad right now.  I never thought I would need something like this, but it's true I do get panicy when I have the nausea and I think it has a lot to do with the things I can't take care of when I'm sick.  Having my 90 yr old Dad live with us is the hardest by far.  I have no privacy, always have to do things for him and worry about what he's going to do next.  He's always in the living room watching Westerns which drives me crazy, thank heavens for my den.  I prayed that I wouldn't have to go through chemo as long as he was with us, but that was one prayer that wasn't answered.

Oh well, if I can get relief from a drug like this I'll take it.  I just hope it keeps helping and I can get through this.  I know I'm one of the lucky ones, but sometimes it's hard to realize it.  Thanks again for the advice gals, Mary


Dx 2/7/2008, IDC, 1cm, Stage I, Grade 3, 0/2 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2+
Leeayn
Joined: Apr 2008
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Jun 3, 2008 11:02 pm Leeayn wrote:

I just had Chemo #2 on Thursday, 5/29 and was sick during the infusions.  Between the Aloxi and the Ativan, which seemed to help, they prescribed a new compound drug for me and it has been a God send!

HAB - Haldol .25 mg / Ativan .5 mg / Benedryl 2 mg - take it every 4-6 hours w/Zofran and it has helped the nausea! 

Chemo #1 I was just on zofran and very nauseas, but no throwing up.  This time I have had my fair share, but the HAB with a touch of phenegren has helped!  I had to go back in the day after my #2 Chemo to be hydrated and phenegren, much better.  I know it's a lot of drugs, but anything to keep the nausea away, I'll take it!

Might be worth asking for.

Focus on the Positive! -- God is in Control!
Dx 3/28/2008, IDC, 1cm, Stage I, Grade 3, 0/11 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
mary6204
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Jun 4, 2008 09:57 am mary6204 wrote:

I am on day 8 of tx #4 and the nausea is horrible.  I am so dizzy I can hardly walk across the room.  I go in this afternoon for my 2nd IV.  I just wrote down your formula to take to the doctor.  I know I have to get something else because I can't take this otherwise.  Thanks for the "recipe"  glad it worked for you, Mary


Dx 2/7/2008, IDC, 1cm, Stage I, Grade 3, 0/2 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2+
suz41
Joined: Oct 2007
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Jun 4, 2008 10:11 am suz41 wrote:

Hi Mary,

I, too, was nauseous days 5-8 during chemo. The only thing that seemed to help me was Ativan and staying hydrated. I also ordered "queasy pops" from a website that my mother-in-law told me about. It helped to suck on them throughout the day. My nauseau never went away completely but I felt a bit better and not so dizzy. The website is www.threelollies.com

I hope you feel better soon.....chemo is a necessary evil!!

Suze

Suze
Dx 8/24/2007, IDC, 2cm, Stage II, Grade 3, 1/2 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2+
BMac
Joined: May 2008
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Jun 6, 2008 11:38 am BMac wrote:

Dear Mary

I haven't seen anyone recommend Kytril (common name Granesetron).  I had it during my Ovarian treatments and during my  first three breast cancer treatments.  It is given via IV during treatment and orally after.  It's heavy duty and causes constipation.  I always popped a dulcolax as soon as the iv came out and everyday until I went.

I'm in Canada so I don't know if it's given in the States or is prescribed under another name but it sure worked for me.

Barbara

Barbara
Dx 10/23/2007, IDC, , Stage IIIc, Grade 3, / nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2+
NancyD
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Jun 6, 2008 12:06 pm NancyD wrote:

BMac,

Kytril is given in the States. I was given that as a IV this spring along with my other chemo meds.

leaf
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Jun 6, 2008 01:47 pm, edited Jun 6, 2008 01:49 PM by leaf leaf wrote:

Sometimes docs can use lorazepam (Ativan) for nausea. Sometimes metoclopramide (Reglan) helps, or dronabinol (Marinol). Some like other antiemetics that are related to Compazine (for example perphenazine.) (Besides the family of Zofran (ondansetron), Anzemet (dolasetron), and Kytril (granisetron).)

Its rather curious about Compazine - it was first developed in hopes of curing intestinal worms (in about the 1950s.) They tried it out on people in mental institutions (since they can be more prone to worms), and found it helped with psychoses. (So the general family is known as anti-psychotics.) Then they found in psychotic patients who also had nausea, it helped with their nausea. By the late 1990s, it was used almost exclusively for nausea and vomiting, and was only rarely used for other uses in the general hospital. Until they stopped making the injectable form, so they couldn't use it in the hospital after operations for several years. Now its back, but usually other drugs are used first in the general hospital. One drug can sometimes have many uses.

Ativan can be used for sedation, anxiety, seizures, nausea, muscle spasms (not a complete list I'm sure.)

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