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  • Posted on: Apr 8, 2008 01:49 pm, edited Apr 8, 2008 02:07 PM by cjl56
cjl56 wrote:

I went for my yr checkup and dr found a lump.  I was sent for a mamo and ultra sound.  still not clear.  Then I was sent me to a surgern. The dr reviewed all data (4/3/08) and sch me for a mammotone biopsy(4/4/08). (has anyone else had one?) during the biopsy, she stated that it was cancer.  I went into shock and now I'm waiting for the results, maybe today or tomorrow.  Has anyone else had their surgern tell them that it was cancer and test came back neg? I'm  hoping she is wrong.

Cathy

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Curlylocks
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Apr 8, 2008 06:31 pm, edited Apr 8, 2008 06:32 PM by Curlylocks Curlylocks wrote:

Hi Cathy,

A surgeon can suspect cancer but it cannot be positively 100% confirmed without the biopsy results. 

I had a core needle biopsy so cant help you out on the type you had.   

Please hold onto the thought that it cannot be confirmed 100% without the results!!!

Wishing you B9 results.

Michele 

heidib
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Apr 8, 2008 07:08 pm heidib wrote:

Hi Cathy, I am so sorry that you had to hear that. The same thing happened to me (just this past Feb.14th) actually. Same sequence as you.  My surgeon was very up-front with me and in a strange way, I did appreciate it. I think it gave me a heads-u and processesed before I mentioned anything.  Ofcourse I didn't want to hear it!!! - could not believe it was happening! But most surgeons that perform these type of surgeries are usually correct. Not saying she is not wrong this time but normally not.  My surgeon told me that she felt it was cancer and that she usually gets it wrong one or two times a year. I knew my chances that she was wrong were slim.  It did come back cancerous however, your getting a biopsy and do that right away.  I did.  That will ofcourse confirm it.  It is NOT the end of the world and you will be OK.  Sounds like they may have found it early too.  Keep us posted. We've all been thru it and still going thru it. This board has helped me in this short month SOOO much I can't even tell you. Great info. Ill say a prayer for you tonight Cathy.

Heidi

Ain't No Such Thing as a Free Lunch :)
Dx 2/14/2008, IDC, 1cm, Stage II, Grade 2, 2/12 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2+
cjl56
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Apr 9, 2008 11:36 am cjl56 wrote:

Thanks Michele & heidi,

The Mammotone biopsy I guess is new.  I know that it really hurt.  I was told from the beginning that this doctor is to the point.  Now I know why they said that.  When she first told me, my husband and I cried.  but it has given me time to read up on it.  I bought "breast cancer for dummies".  and I have had time to pray and digest it.  Now I hope everything comes back neg.  but if she was right then I will still be upset , but I know more about breast cancer.  I loved finding this site and reading everything about what everyone else is going throu.  I feel like I am in a haze waiting to find out.  and it does help letting out how you feel.  what is the normal waiting time.   I am going by the old saying no news is good news and if it was true I would have been called right away.

cathy

NancyD
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Apr 9, 2008 01:30 pm NancyD wrote:

cjl, I would say the average time is about a week. Unless you went to a cancer center that has a pathology lab onsite and can order it stat, I've found it gets sent out to a lab that has no particular investment is getting the news to you in a very timely way.

That seems to be true of many things in this process. Between two mammograms, biopsy, appt to see a surgeon, then an oncologist, getting a treatment plan, getting the meds ordered, and starting tx, it seemed like is was always nearly a week's wait. I had my screening mammogram 1/29 and I am just having my second of three neoadjuvant chemos tomorrow.

Some cancer centers are well-coordinated, setting you up with a team of drs (surgeon, oncologist, radiologist) who get everything worked out between them. I'm in a situation where I've had to cull together my own team, and I'm the communicator between them. The pro to that is I can easily drop any of them I'm not happy with and find another. The con is that I have to stay on top of a lot more like will the oncologist notify the surgeon that my chemo is done and I'm ready to be evaluated for surgery. I'm the one who has to look at the bigger picture of overall treatment and the time frame for each segment.

cjl56
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Apr 9, 2008 02:00 pm cjl56 wrote:

Nancy,

after you heard," what came next" . This is really nerve wracking , waiting.  I do hope she is wrong, but I have a feeling she's not.  It's harder not knowing what comes next and what is the next step.

I have to wait when I go home to see if they left a message.  My husband and I thought it would be best if they didn't call me at work as I work an hour away from home.  But it's killing me, waiting. I'm 56yrs old and his mother passed of breast cancer at the same age.   

I'm sorry for all you are going throu, but thanks for the input.  At least I can find out from here information. 

NancyD
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Apr 9, 2008 04:03 pm NancyD wrote:

I had the pathology report sent to several physicians: my primary care md, my ob/gyn, and the surgeon I had consulted (the biopsy was done my another specialist). I was very sure already that it was cancer, so I scheduled an appointment with the surgeon for the week following the biopsy, and called to make sure it had been received before I came it.

We went over the pathology report. My sister was with me and she did most of the questioning (she's a dr's wife and helped run his office before he retired). I asked about recommendations for different oncologists, and plastic surgeons. Told him who I was leaning towards, to find out if he worked with them before. We also discussed inserting a medi-port for the chemo treatments.

Then I saw the oncologist and discussed the chemo treatment he recommended for my stage and grade cancer. He then went on vacation so I had to wait a little over a week before I could see him again, but I needed a few things done in the meanwhile like the port insertion (back to the surgeon), a PET/CT scan, and an echocardiogram of my heart.

Chemo finally started on 3/20.

I found it helpful to move through the stages that are kind of set up here at this site. "Waiting for Test Results," then "Just Diagnosed," then "Chemotherapy, Before, During and After."  I've also been reading the other ones that I will eventually become involved with, but not having too many questions about them yet (Surgery, Reconstruction, and Radiation), I haven't posted too much.

But don't put the cart before the horse, or one foot in the grave. Wait for your pathology report, as that will give info that people here can relate to, interpret, and give you their experience with a similar cancer.

Curlylocks
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Apr 9, 2008 08:54 pm, edited Apr 9, 2008 08:54 PM by Curlylocks Curlylocks wrote:

Hi cjl56,

Yes the waiting TOTALLY sucks!  If it is positive for cancer, the next step will be meeting with a surgeon to discuss surgery options and provide you with the type of cancer it is and approximate tumour size.

My biopsy results took 6 days but I was told by my surgeon after I had my biopsy that he highly suspected it was cancer and he unfortunately was right. So despite having to wait, I was more prepared but it still was a shock!

I am still holding out hope it will be B9 for you. Keep us posted...

Michele 

cjl56
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Apr 10, 2008 02:07 pm cjl56 wrote:

we'll I talked to the nurse at the Dr's office this morning. (dr is on vac)  she said it came back pos.  Don't really know much except it is dcis and situ.  I guess since the dr was upfront with me and told me it was cancer, I was more prepared for it.  It was the worst feeling, waiting for an answer.  Now from this site and reading up on breast cancer I can prepare for what is to come.  I'm glad they did get it at an early stage.  she set an apt w/surgen for tues to review report and I guess a plan.  and they set up an apt to get an mri on both breasts on the 18th.  I hope from everyone else I will find out what to expect next.  but believe me everyone's messages did really help.

thank you

Cathy

Curlylocks
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Apr 10, 2008 06:02 pm Curlylocks wrote:

Cathy,

Sorry your results were not B9.  The good thing though is that DCIS (also known as Ductual Carcinoma Institu) is contained within the breast and is early stage!

Wishing you the best of luck on your MRI on the 18th.  Once you have the MRI and get the results your medical team will be able to make recommendations for surgery.  A lumpectomy versus a masectomy.

A big hug to you across the way as I know that you are still in shock despite being somewhat prepared for positive results.

You can do this and get onto living life beyond bc...

Your bc sister

Michele 

cjl56
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Apr 11, 2008 01:36 pm cjl56 wrote:

Michele

you have been user since 10/31/05

what type was yours and are you now cancer free

or have you had any more flair ups?

cathy

crazydaisy
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Apr 11, 2008 01:58 pm crazydaisy wrote:

Hi Cathy.......sorry to hear you have joined the club. I have DCIS too. There is lots of good info here if you find the DCIS section topics of discussion....a good place to read. Most women with this do not experience any recurrences and have a very low chance of that happening when treated properly. They say the likely hood of that is 1-2%, so not much worry there.

The main thing for you right now is to have it removed and making sure that there is nothing else. If your are having a lumpectomy the most important thing is making sure they get good margins and then that is usually followed up by radiation as an added protection to your breast to kill off any stray cells. Most people come through this very well and are able to move on. Hormone therapy may also be suggested as more protection for down the road.

Do you know what you will be doing next? Good luck hun...keep reading.

Viv " The way I see it, if you want the rainbow, you gotta put up with the rain"
Dx 1/7/2008, DCIS, 4cm, Stage 0, Grade 3, / nodes, ER-/PR-
cjl56
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Apr 11, 2008 03:33 pm cjl56 wrote:

I have my drs visit on tues 15th to review the plan of action, an a mri of both breasts on 4/18

Do you know what other tests my need to be done.  I don't know until the dr visit if and when I will get a lumpedtomy.  Sounds like reading on these sites that it will be likely.  How long after the dr visit will is the average time the lumpedtomy scheduled ? how long does it take?  will I be put to sleep for it? ( i hope) and about how long will I be out of work?  oh yeah, if I get radiation , how long after the lumpedtomy will that be?  How long does radiation take and what do you have to go throu?  as you see I like to know what comes next and lots of questions.   I feel this is the best area for questions.

thanks

cathy

crazydaisy
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Apr 14, 2008 12:22 am crazydaisy wrote:

Cathy.....I did not have an MRI, I had an excisional biopsy Nov 27/07 and got the results from that Dec 17/07. I was put to sleep for it.....takes about 45min-1 hour in surgery. I took 3 days off work with the weekend added on. Make sure you have a good supportive comfy bra to wear post op to wear day and night. It helps to keep all secure from moving around which may cause you discomfort. I did not do rads because I had to go back for more surgery because of dirty margins. I had a mastectomy 4 weeks ago. Hope you don't have to go down this path......make sure you get good margins....hopefully they will first shot. Radiation is usually for approx. 6 weeks.....5 days a week......biggest thing there is good skin care and possible fatigue. Good luck.....keep us posted as to how you are.

Viv " The way I see it, if you want the rainbow, you gotta put up with the rain"
Dx 1/7/2008, DCIS, 4cm, Stage 0, Grade 3, / nodes, ER-/PR-
cjl56
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Apr 17, 2008 12:52 pm cjl56 wrote:

crazydaisy,

I had my visit with the surgen, she said that there is not a very clear path.  she showed me the mammo's and said that there is a large mass where the DCiS is comming from.   report shows it's 3.2cm,

DCiS, intermediate to high nuclear grade w/central necrosis (whatever this means)  She said a lumpedtomy was out and she recommends a mastectomy.  I am really in shock.  I had no idea that w/dcis this was even a thought.  Why did you get a Mastectomy and how did you make such a hard decision?  did you get reconstruction?  I'm just having a hard time facing that decision. 

Cathy

crazydaisy
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Apr 17, 2008 01:13 pm crazydaisy wrote:

Well.....the same type of thing happened to me. It was my very first mammo ever.....I was 48, almost 49. I was very clued out about any of it. So, I went and had it done.....then they did a US and more views on the right....I just thought this was all normal procedure. After that I was sent for more diagnostic images to the larger cancer clinic near here....again, I was not to concerned, just felt inconvenienced. Well then....it was recommended I go straight to having a excisional biopsy.....talk about fear! Now I was getting worried. When the pathology report came back from that it showed that the margins were still involved so the surgeon then dropped the bomb about mastectomy....all in about 5 seconds! Wow...that's when I really started to do my homework to find out why I had to do this. I was to shocked at the initial recommendation to ask enough as well. After finding out more I went back at least 2 more times to discuss all of this. For me it was because it was also high grade comedo form with necrosis present(meaning it was the most aggressive form and fast growing) and the affected area was large in relation to my size A boob. Getting clear margins on another go around was not a guarantee for getting it all nor would it have been cosmetically acceptable and would have had to be followed up with 6 weeks of radiation. I really had not much choice in this instance.

So that is the long and short of it. I did not have any reconstruction, I wanted to know the full outcome first and deal with the issue at hand first. I just could not even begin to think of more at that time, but that is just me......a big chicken.

I know how you feel, we all do.....it's a tough time....so find out all you can.

Viv " The way I see it, if you want the rainbow, you gotta put up with the rain"
Dx 1/7/2008, DCIS, 4cm, Stage 0, Grade 3, / nodes, ER-/PR-
cjl56
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Apr 21, 2008 11:52 am cjl56 wrote:

We'll I had the MRI done on 4/18.  Now again waiting for the results. On Fri I have a apt with the oncologist.  My dr wants me to get a second opinion and talk to other women there and then go back and see her later that same day.  I had a good weekend, but today I'm really wired.  I feel so down.  I feel like because it's stage o, no one takes it serious.  and now I'm getting a Mastectomy.  I just want to cry and scream.  I feel lost.  I think I feel how can I have cancer and they cought it in time and I'm not sick or in any pain, but now I have to get a mastectomy.  I think my nerves are really kicking in. I know I'm going to have more of these days.  How do you get by with acting liking nothing is wrong, and everyone else acts like nothing is wrong.  Everyone is joking about how great it is to get new boobs and I even joke about it but I'm dying inside.

crazydaisy
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Apr 21, 2008 12:39 pm crazydaisy wrote:

cjl56

Testing and waiting is rough. Beleive me......I think I had one of the worst wait times going.....one year form original found the stuff on mammo till mastectomy. They lost me and forgot to recall me till 3 months later when I went in for a unrelated thing. Then it came up on their screen with my other stuff and it was WHOOPS....big OOPS, we better get you in!!! It is a serious Dx that needs looking after appropriately. Make sure you learn all you can about your DX and have your questions written down as well. You should also discuss the possibility of finding an invasive focus with DCIS......this is something they don't always want to discuss because of not knowing till after the surgery and pathology come back and not wanting to worry or scare you before hand. Still, for some women this is what happens and then they are even more confused and scared and angry that they weren't given those possibilities before hand. Please do your homework and learn what you can, it helps to be prepared and understand what you are going through.

Geez...I'm sorry your having a bad day but you need to let yourself feel those emotions....it's a life changing thing and you need the time to grieve as well, it's all part of the process, but you will get stronger too. So give yourself that space when you need it. We're all here for you. ((((HUGS))))

Viv " The way I see it, if you want the rainbow, you gotta put up with the rain"
Dx 1/7/2008, DCIS, 4cm, Stage 0, Grade 3, 0/1 nodes, ER-/PR-
cjl56
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Apr 28, 2008 10:54 am cjl56 wrote:

I met with the oncologist and back again with the surgeon.  The oncologist agreed with the surgeon on the mastectony.  the mri showed the mass is 1.6 ap X 3.0 transverse X 5.4 cm.  I'm not really sure what all of that means except the the mass is larger then the mammo showed. it also said that craniocaudally highly suspicious for malignancy. (does anyone know what that means?).  also demonstrates some nodular peripheral rim enhancement postcontrast( ?) AND a 5mm rounded enhancing solid mass likely an intramammary lymph node. AND if that's not bad enough the MRi also showed high t2 weighted signal intensity massed in the liver measuring 1.5 X 1.7 cm.  does anyone know what all this means? 

crazydaisy
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Apr 29, 2008 12:09 am crazydaisy wrote:

cjl56

Hi there. Sorry your going through all this. Sounds like your treatment plan is starting to take shape.

I can't help you much on explaining all of that but am sure someone can.

Hang in there......let us know how you are.

Viv " The way I see it, if you want the rainbow, you gotta put up with the rain"
Dx 1/7/2008, DCIS, 4cm, Stage 0, Grade 3, 0/1 nodes, ER-/PR-
heidib
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May 2, 2008 07:19 pm heidib wrote:

Hi Cjl56, Have you thought about getting a second opinion? With all they are seeing, I would recommend one. I had two opinions.  I wasn't going to at the beginning. I had a good hospital (local) and they had a breast center (btw are you going to a breast center?) I had a 1.3cm lump on my mamo and then when they went in, they found that it was 1.5cm and found two lumps other too tiny to see  on mamo that were 4mm and 1mm.  Mine though, was invasive which I knew before they went in, luckily unlike yours.  Im so happy yours isn't. I also had cancer in two lympnodes - removed 12. They then told me I should get a mastecotomy since there was more than the expected one tumor. (called I guess "multi-focal") I then decided since I had more than expected when they did my lumpectomy that I decide then to get a second opinion. The 2nd hospital agreed with my treatment plan but disagreed about the mastecomy - they told me (2nd hospital - beth isreal in Boston)  that they didnt think I had to remove my breast. I am presently doing chemo - did they suggest chemo for you? I know sometimes they do chemo when the lump is bigger like yours,- they do that to shrink the tumor so they dont have to do a mastectomy and then instead do a lumpectomy.  Was that mentioned at all. I feel so badly for you. I hate the time-line you are in - it truly is the hardest. If you can, update us please ok. It will be hard but you WILL get thru it. My chemo right now is going pretty well, no side-effects but tired. I can do tired. :) My prayers are with you.  keep coming back - there is sooo much good info. and so many nice people that always answer your questions. I ask all the time!

Best,

Heidi

Ain't No Such Thing as a Free Lunch :)
Dx 2/14/2008, IDC, 1cm, Stage II, Grade 2, 2/12 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2+
heidib
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May 2, 2008 07:23 pm heidib wrote:

PS. Im sorry I dont' know what the other things you mentioned in your post but you need to ask your dr. these questions and you have a right to feel comfortable about doing so. If not, honestly, see another dr.  Not knowing things is the worse! Also, there is a area on this website that shows you how to read your pathology report. That should help.  Read everything, knowledge is power and it makes you feel more in control. God bless you.

Ain't No Such Thing as a Free Lunch :)
Dx 2/14/2008, IDC, 1cm, Stage II, Grade 2, 2/12 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2+
cjl56
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May 5, 2008 11:25 am cjl56 wrote:

Well, I had a bone scan, ct scan, etc and go back on wed 5/7 to read all the reports.  I really do have a great dr at a breast center.  The problem with my DCIS is that it there is so much of it in all the ducts that I have no other choice.  I just read Susan Love's breast book and that was really good.  I'm doing good now with everything falling into place.  I just feel weird with going throu all of this. I feel like it's not real because I don't feel sick.

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May 5, 2008 11:55 am motheroffoursons wrote:

Cathy,

Craniocaudally is just the orientation of the MRI.  I think this is the one that means from the head/neck down.  The liver thing, don't freak out about it until you know more.  Many people have asymptomatic cysts on their liver which mean nothing.  Just make sure your doctor is aware of it.

Sharon
heidib
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May 8, 2008 04:49 pm heidib wrote:

hi cjl, I also had a "spot" on my pelvis and it freaked me out ofcourse until they found out it was just "arthritis" showing up on the scan. Never knew to have arthritis either but ofcourse made me feel better. Had to wait sev. days to find out. It could be anything or nothing.

Heidi

Ain't No Such Thing as a Free Lunch :)
Dx 2/14/2008, IDC, 1cm, Stage II, Grade 2, 2/12 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2+
cjl56
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May 10, 2008 09:16 am cjl56 wrote:

I went to the dr's and recieved the results of all the tests.  They still are looking into the liver thing, so more test but it's not cancer.  My bone scan showed I have arthritis in my feet.  But other then breast cancer I'm a healthy person.  I really feel weird feeling healthy and like I have nothing wrong.  My surgery is June 16th mast w/a tram.  I was fine last week but I think my nerves are taking over.  I start getting upset over stupid stuff.  I don't sweat the small stuff anymore, it's like with breast cancer you can handle anything.  Is this a weird feeling or what?

Sassa
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May 10, 2008 12:56 pm Sassa wrote:

cjl,

Yes, breast cancer certainly changes your prospective on things.

I recently had some tests done by my oncologist because I was having neck pain.

Her statement to me after the first tests "Good news!!! It is not cancer.  You may have a fracture in your neck so we need to do a MRI to rule it out."

Of course, I started laughing (yahoo!!! I may ONLY have a broken neck, no cancer!!!!)

The MRI showed only compressed discs, no fracture.


Dx 12/6/2006, IDC, 1cm, Stage I, Grade 3, 0/9 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2+
heidib
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May 15, 2008 04:48 pm heidib wrote:

cjm, I feel the same way! When I had all these scans done as you and diagnosed with BC,it was so hard to believe because I felt SO GOOD. I mean, nothing! It sort of freaked me out even more knowing that all this can be going on inside me and I could feel this good. I only thank god that I FOUND it early - yes, in two lympnodes but still, another year of feeling good could now have cost me my life. I still shudder when I think of that. And like you said, boy, do I really appreciate things much more - especially now that I am going thru chemo - having a good day to walk the woods with my dogs are so exciting to me - before, nice but ho hum.  I've been thinking of trips I want to plan, I try to focus on the little things that make me feel blessed and not be as high maintenance as I am capable of. I think thats a good thing if I have to think of positive ways this affected me. I still also think once in a while, wow, I can't believe this happened to me. Not that it shouldn't but just that it did. Especialy when I thought I was the fittest, ate healthy, never had much more than a cold my whole life, no family history - when the rug was pulled out from under me. This happened for a reason. I believe that.

So glad about your liver scan -yah! I guess arthritus shows up in strange places - like mine too. Thankfully for us, it was just that. Keep us updated as we very much care :) Best to you, Heidi

Ain't No Such Thing as a Free Lunch :)
Dx 2/14/2008, IDC, 1cm, Stage II, Grade 2, 2/12 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2+

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