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ravdeb Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 3,069 |
Jul 24, 2007 12:10 am
ravdeb wrote:
Interesting but I would wait for more conclusive studies to come out. I have a high risk of stroke because of a health issue I have so I needed to lower my cholesterol with a statin. I take a low dose. I believe that it's just our bodies. We are either prone to fighting cancer cells or we are not and that's what they should be looking at. |
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Rosemary44 Joined: May 2004 Posts: 3,887 |
Jul 24, 2007 03:50 am
Rosemary44 wrote:
There's this newish concern that we should get our LDL down below 70 for those at high risk for heart problems. I think that is what this research is trying to address. How low is too low? And what are the long term effects of keeping it so low? That's where the drug zetia comes in to augment the statins by getting LDL as low as possible. I've read that women over 65 needs to have some more LDL. I hope they don't drop the ball on this one, cause cardio's might be jumping on lower is better bandwagon without thinking about consequences that could be causing more harm then good. "A Pfizer spokeswoman pointed to a large analysis of 26 studies including nearly 90,000 patients published last year, which showed no evidence of an increased risk of cancer with statin use." They didn't ask me. |
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saluki Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,788 |
Jul 24, 2007 06:18 am
saluki wrote:
It's like all our other meds. You walk into chemo the first day and sign a paper that you know it can give you cancer. If you need it there is not much leeway. Like the AI's we take it cause hopefully it will give us better odds, but it is disconcerting to not know the long term consequences of these meds. I do have concerns not about the cardiologists, but about the PCP's who are a little too anxious to give the statins. If I was borderline on the cholesterol I'd want more research done. Not that I could take it anyway (those pesky liver enzymes) |
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Rosemary44 Joined: May 2004 Posts: 3,887 |
Jul 24, 2007 10:24 am
Rosemary44 wrote:
When people are close to being a tad too high, they could offer diet plans and exercise first. There are some people who would follow a diet instead of taking a pill. Not one word was ever said to me about diet. Not all can lower cholesterol by diet alone, but how do they know unless they try it? I'd hand people a prescription and a card for a nutritionist, which one would they rather do? At least give them a choice. |
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Isabella4 Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,903 |
Jul 25, 2007 12:47 am
Isabella4 wrote:
I take a statin every day, have done for about 3 years. I am continuing with them, my family have a VERY high risk of heart disease, heart attacks, high blood pressure and strokes. Just one more thing to worry about!! Weighing up the risk, from the articles I've seen in the press, I'm stopping with them. I too have never, ever been told 'you are carrying too much weight, watch what you eat', even though its down on my medical records that my weight has slowly gone up about 3 stones over the past 4 years. Oh, for a caring 'sorting out' kind of dr. My GP has told me that Arimidex doesn't cause all the pain I have. It doesn't cause me to have carpal tunnel, plantar fasiitis, and clicky fingers....so go discuss whether its safe for me to continue on statins, I don't think so !! I could go to another dr in the practice, but for me its better the devil I know. She's been my GP for 25 years, if ever I have to see another dr they just don't know me at all. Isabella. |
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Rosemary44 Joined: May 2004 Posts: 3,887 |
Jul 25, 2007 12:52 pm
Rosemary44 wrote:
Isabella, I'm reading your post and are you saying you'll continue taking the statin or not? You really can't go off a statin cold turkey, especially since there is a strong history of heart problems in your family. You would have to start a strict special diet to control the cholesterol on your own. That's something to think about if you are thinking of quitting the statin. |
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Isabella4 Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,903 |
Jul 25, 2007 01:35 pm
Isabella4 wrote:
Rosemary. I'm saying that I AM continuing as normal, 1 tablet per day. Thanx for the advice though, I didn't know that I couldn't go cold turkey on statins. I always say I learn something every day, and this little pearl of wisdom is todays lesson !!!! Many thanx. Isabella. |
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Jackson Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 65 |
Jul 26, 2007 09:41 am Jackson wrote: I believe the statin Zocor caused my Mom's cancer. She was diagnosed with small cell lung cancer, but all her cancer was in her liver. She was diagnosed shortly after switching to Zocor from a different statin. I appreciate this article, now I'm even more certain this was the cause. |
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Jorf Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,136 |
Jul 27, 2007 04:17 am
Jorf wrote:
It would be very interesting to see whether the people who naturally have very low LDL levels have a higher risk of cancer. I'm wondering how much of this has to do with the myriad of other issue and molecules involved with people with metabolic syndrome and/or familial dyslipidemia v the statin itself. Does using a statin to force a low LDL cause something else to change in the bodies of people who require this to lower their lipids? If it could be done ethically a study that took people with normal lipids, average Framingham risk (risk for heart disease) and forced their LDLs down to 70 mg/dl to see if that increased their cancer risk.... TOO MANY VARIABLES!! I guess there was a thing that came out yesterday saying that people who drink sodas/pops/tonics (depending on what part of the US/world you hail from) have a higher risk of heart disease - whether or not sweetened with high fructose corn syrup or artificial sweeteners. We had this discussion at our endocrine office at lunch and decided it has nothing to do with the soda per se but the type of person who is likely (in generalizing populations) to drink sodas may be more likely to eat more processed foods in general. Jorf |
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juanita63 Joined: May 2007 Posts: 179 |
Jul 27, 2007 06:17 pm juanita63 wrote: Don't remember the good and bad, but my bad was too high and good way too low. I had to quit taking the statin because I was having the flushes at all times of the day. People I'd be talking to would ask me if i was okay. |
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Sierra Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,912 |
Jul 28, 2007 03:33 am
Sierra wrote:
re: Lipitor A friend of mine just stopped using this medication Told his doctor it made him too tired Are you supposed to taper off this drug? tire |
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Rosemary44 Joined: May 2004 Posts: 3,887 |
Jul 28, 2007 10:31 am
Rosemary44 wrote:
People can stop the pill but without a plan in place they're risking too much. I'd lower the dose first, get a diet and exercise plan going at the same time, and if they can't get it lower by dieting, or keeping to the diet, it's better to stay on the drug. It's all according to how high the cholesterol was in the first place cause it's going right back to that level without a plan in place. |
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Sierra Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,912 |
Jul 28, 2007 12:01 pm
Sierra wrote:
Hi::: I agree with you but this person is stubborn it will just go right back up as he has been advised by his physician tks.. )
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ShirleyHugh
Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 4,631 |
Jul 28, 2007 02:19 pm
ShirleyHughes wrote:
Juanita, which statin were you taking? My brother is taking one with, I believe, niacin is in it. He was told to take an aspirin daily. I don't know if it was a low strength aspirin. Shirley |
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juanita63 Joined: May 2007 Posts: 179 |
Jul 28, 2007 05:49 pm juanita63 wrote: I was taking advicor. And they told me to take the asprin, which didn't work. then they told me to try a benadryl and it didn't work either. I think because of the niacin but I got switched to lipitor. |
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Rosemary44 Joined: May 2004 Posts: 3,887 |
Jul 28, 2007 06:14 pm
Rosemary44 wrote:
Jorf, I'll be the guinea pig. My Dr. insisted I get my LDL down under 70. I was at 73 at the time. 3 pts? With another pill, it is down to what I think is too low at 53. I'll let you know how it goes for me.
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ShirleyHugh
Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 4,631 |
Jul 29, 2007 02:06 pm
ShirleyHughes wrote:
Well, Juanita, that should have taken care of that! LOL My brother didn't know that no all statins had no niacin in it. He was surprised I wasn't taking an aspirin to fight any side effects. I didn't have his side effects cuz I was on a different drug. LOL Shirley |
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skyedivine Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 867 |
Aug 8, 2007 04:58 pm skyedivine wrote: Hi, I had been on Zimvastatin at the time of my dx due to high hereditary cholesterol. I took myself off for the duration of chemo and rads, figuring it was just one pill too many with all the others I was taking, but recently found out my cholesterol went back up to 245. So my GP has me back on the statin and I'm just resigned to it. I am also on Herceptin so I still have a port and taking Warfarin (Coumadin) which can INTERACT with statins! Statins can boost the blood-thinning action of Warfarin or Coumadin. Both my GP and onc are aware of it and keeping an eye on the situation but if you are in the same boat, drug-wise, it's important to know that, I think, and be sure not to take any other thinning agents (check herbal supplements especially carefully. - Skye |
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