Sorry if this is the wrong forum for this (?)...I didn't know where to post it lol
I was diagnosed with stage 2 IDC 18 months ago...mastectomy, chemo, rads, the whole 9 yards. I am on Tamoxifen.
I bought the book "Nature's Cancer Fighting Foods" and I am more confused than ever. I knew before that red meat is bad, but now chicken is too (??) And soy...there are conflicting reports of it being bad for ER pos women and then some reports say that it is actually good for you?! Ilove veggie burgers; should I avoid them or eat more??!! (my oncologist said that the "jury is still out" on it)
I try and eat a healthy diet, but now I read that fruit is not necessarily good to eat (???) because even though the sugar is "natural sugar", it is still sugar and should not be consumed heavily (more than 2-3 servings a day)...I have always loved fruit and admit that I sometimes eat it excessively. Oops!
And milk, cheese, yogurt? I am not supposed to eat those either?
I know that whole grains are very important. I always buy the Oroweat (sp?) 100% whole wheat bread. I just looked at the ingredient list and see that it contains high fructose something-or-other (maybe corn syrup)..my head is spinning right now! What CAN I eat???? Ahhhhhhhhhhh!
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prettyinpin
Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 634 |
Apr 29, 2008 08:50 pm
prettyinpink100 wrote:
I agree. It can really be confusing about what we should eat and what we should avoid. I am trying my best to eat healthy foods, avoiding anything that causes me anxiety based on the info out there and whether or not it makes sense to me. The most important food for me to avoid is anything high in fat.
Dx 2/1/2007, IDC, , Stage IIIb, Grade 2, 9/16 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- |
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NancyD Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 843 |
Apr 30, 2008 10:37 am
NancyD wrote:
I got on a "no soy" kick, too, as soon as I found out about my ER+ status. One of the distressing things I found is that soy is in so many of our prepared foods, from breads and salad dressings (soybean oil) to cake mixes (soy lechithin). Also flavored rice and pasta mixes...just about anything. As for milk, I have started buying organic milk, guaranteed no-hormones. I really only use half-and-half in my morning coffee, so it's not very much. And any other milk products I eat tend to be fermented like cheese and yoghurt. I also look for hormone-free meats. Some chicken brands have started selling a line of them, and they're not even more expensive than the big names. Not much you can do about the red meats...they're just bad for you in so many ways. But I'd rather have a juicy beef hamburger than a tofuburger any day. So weighing the cons in both, I'll take the beef, LOL. |
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kitkat04 Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 33 |
Apr 30, 2008 10:50 am
kitkat04 wrote:
Following a diet is hard, I have slowly made changes over the years since my treatment. It can be overwhelming if you try to do it all at once. I try to eat "super foods" every day, berries, nuts, high fiber, very colourful vegs. Avoid red meat and even pork. Do not go out of your way to eat more soy, but what shows up in a regular diet should be fine. I now rarely eat from a box, everything is freshly prepare, truly from scratch. You have now control otherwise. Also avoid "diet, lowfat foods, they are usually full of chemicals. kathy cadeau
Dx 9/1/2004, IDC, , Stage IIIc, /14 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2+ |
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shiny Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 97 |
Apr 30, 2008 11:30 am
shiny wrote:
Hi KP1970, boy, keep thinking, as soon as I get some energy, I must start to eat more thoughtfully, but 2 months on from my dble mast/recon and 4 1/2 months from last chemo and am still waiting for the energy. Must loose weight also and have now gone through menopause (chemo caused). Developped bad joint pain recently so, not terribly physcal. I am triple neg, so maybe the advice is a bit different. I think, for me in due course, and after listing all my own food history, will try to find a bc aware nutritionist to help me get started. It's a bit of a luxury, as it's more expensive then a book on the subject, but I think it helps to plan individualy something realistic for you. Good luck with it all, it is confusing. nb:the dieticians at my cancer hosp sugested reading "the cancer prevention and recovery diet" by Dr Michelle Harvie, as a starting point. There is some good stuff in there, but the actual diet in full is too much for this busy mom to take on, at the mo anyhow. kitkat, love your user name! cute! Thanks for the list of super foods, it's a good start for me. Dx 5/2007, IDC, 2cm, Stage IIIb, Grade 3, 1/16 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2- |
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Conbrio Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 13 |
May 3, 2008 09:59 pm
Conbrio wrote:
When I saw this category I was so excited. I am appalled at how little info I can find on what to eat!!! I mean, consistent, agreed upon, factual info! KP, you are not alone about being confused. Nancy, you are right about the sticker shock experienced when you start reading what ingredients are in everyday food. Soy is EVERYWHERE! Shiny, I'm going to get that book. kitkat, you speak truth. I have lost 41 lbs since Nov by eating alot of home prepared fresh vegetables and beans, cold water fish, nuts, berries, olive oil, whole grains and green tea. No alcohol, No caffiene, low fat, low sugar. I also exercise a minimum of 20 minutes everyday. I speak truthfully, treat others with love and acknowledge small moments. One day a week I allow myself to eat whatever I want guilt free. (chocolate cake and bread pudding, watch out) and I can't seem to let go of the decaf nonfat lattes. But that is the only milk I drink and I try to limit them to 4 a week. I have been very lucky, sailed through chemo and rads are going smoothing too. I attribute every bit of it to diet, exercise, attitude and loving support from family and friends. Good luck all and if you find any new food tips = write on! Dx 11/28/2007, IDC, 2cm, Stage IIa, Grade 3, 0/1 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2- |
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shiny Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 97 |
May 4, 2008 02:46 pm
shiny wrote:
Hi All, Sunday night here. Conbrio and KP: THe book I mentionned above is called "the GENESIS breast cancer prevention and recovery diet". I forgot the Genesis part,sorry. BTW: I started Friday to actively and conciously choose my food to start addressing my need to loose weight. I just finaly felt ready. I know that the extra 45/50 pounds is not helping my joints, so I am happily looking forward to the consequences of my food choices. Also, the book I mention talks about the recent studies that say that by being overweight, I increase my chance of recurrance, especially as a triple neg girl. Now if that isn't motivating enough!.. Conbrio, thank you for posting your "good foods". I must admit, I haven't had the energy or found the time to realy research and prepare my new pro recovery food plan, so every tip helps. I find i've been trying to catch up on my kid's stuff now, after the best part of a year in some kind of treatment! xx to you all.all my best. shiny, Wishing you a peachy day! Dx 5/2007, IDC, 2cm, Stage IIIb, Grade 3, 1/16 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2- |
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Erica Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 1365 |
May 4, 2008 04:35 pm
Erica wrote:
I agree that it's confusing to figure out what, if anything, is safe to eat. Or to drink. A recent study says that as little as half a glass of wine (or half a shot of alcohol) two or three times a week is still too much for ER+ women. Apparently it activates the aromatase that drugs like Femara are trying to inhibit. Regarding soy, Nancy was talking about how soy is in so many foods, which is true. BUT, as I understand it, not all soy products are bad for us ER+ women--I believe that both soy lecithin and soy bean oil do not contain the part of the soy that is a plant estrogen, so are okay. Hopefully, someone more knowledgeable than me will come along to clarify, but I've been told it's fine to eat foods with those soy products. As for fruit, I still eat plenty of it. I've given up my nightly dish of Haagen Daz ice cream so I figure that some natural fruit sugar is a huge improvement. Barbara http://breastfree.org; http://famosity.blogspot.com
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