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Posted on: Apr 8, 2011 01:45PM - edited Apr 2, 2018 04:30PM by sas-schatzi

sas-schatzi wrote:

Welcome. This is called the insomnia thread, but we post 24/7/365. We call ourselves Owlettes :)

No nastiness, bullying, stalking or such allowed. I would like to keep the kind fabric of this thread intact.

Discussion will flow where it will as all threads do. This will be a happy place. I hope with lots of laughing. Talk of things, needs, rants as your mood or thoughts take you. Each person here has a history of helping others. Threads develop pseudo family groups. Fancy way to say we become like family. This family will have all the best a family has to offer, but none of the negatives.

May help with sleeplessness: circadian rhythm, melatonin--pub med evidence based research. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21476953 Agometaline is approved for use in Europe/Australia for insomnia. It is NOT approved in the USA http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agomelatine

How to naturally reset circadian rhythm with food : http://www.wisebread.com/how-to-naturally-reset-your-sleep-cycle-overnight

Article connecting insomnia and depression. It's a chicken egg thing-..............-insomnia <-----> depression.

http://blog.aarp.org/2013/12/02/is-curing-insomnia-key-to-curing-depression/?intcmp=AE-ENDART1-BL-REL

Second Sleep---The NORMAL for humans before the light bulb http://slumberwise.com/science/your-ancestors-didnt-sleep-like-you/

Autonomic dysfunction: http://www.holistichelp.net/dysautonomia-autonomic-nervous-system-dysfunction.html

BCO Member Notself's three day plan: 1. Get doc script for sleep aid, at lowest dose. 2. Set sleep time. 3. Take pill 1/2 hr to 1 hr before set time. 4. Do this for three days; 5. Should sleep on fourth night.. 6. Repeat steps 1-5 if sleeplessness has lasted more than one night.

Don'ts that are known to cause sleeplessness: Alcohol, coffee, chocolate, looking at computer screens before bedtime, sex and exersize(variable by person); Do's that promote sleep: Sex and exersize(variable by person) , book reading, foot massage, aromatherapy, sleepy teas. After dinner walk(variable).

Link to Warm & Fuzzy's (W&F) thread: Warm & fuzzy owls, goats, kitties, dogs, birds ETC. PICS &LINKS

For all our dear Sisters .........

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Apr 8, 2011 02:54PM hdangelbaby wrote:

I love this thread already! and, i know my "post chemo but having SE's and still taking painkillers" butt will be on here often!

BAGAWKKKKKK!!!

staying cancer free is my new full time job!! Dx 10/14/2010, IDC, 2cm, Stage II, 2/9 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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Apr 8, 2011 04:41PM hdangelbaby wrote:

same here, i'm up till around 2, then i take something for sleep. so i will be here too!!!

staying cancer free is my new full time job!! Dx 10/14/2010, IDC, 2cm, Stage II, 2/9 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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Apr 8, 2011 05:04PM voraciousreader wrote:

I'm in until I get my shoulder surgery at the end of the month. I have had interrupted sleep now for heaven knows how long!

Doctor told me regarding my prognosis that I WASN'T on the Titanic! Hmmm...Really?....Okay! 02/2010 Pure Mucinous Breast Cancer, Oncotype DX 15, Stage 1, Grade 1, 1.8 cm, 0/2 nodes, ER+ 90% /PR+ 70% HER2- (+1)
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Apr 8, 2011 05:31PM cathmg wrote:

I have a touch of depression that comes and goes, and along with it trouble with early waking sometimes. I will be sure to check in!

Dx 7/17/2008, ILC, 4cm, Stage IIA, Grade 2, 0/9 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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Apr 8, 2011 08:33PM Valgal wrote:

Hi I'm early tonight! Good going SAS - How do we attract the Aussies though?

Dx 7/2/2010, IDC, <1cm, Stage I, Grade 1, 0/1 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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Apr 8, 2011 11:34PM - edited Jun 20, 2011 01:35PM by sas-schatzi

Hello, everyone glad we are going early. I see nor feel any sleep in site. I post the BCO url on a bunch of threads. I''ll take the 5th on what they were. There are several very funny threads. OMG, The stupidists things people have said, and You know you have cancer when etc...

Take and post the url on any site you are active on-----"all our welcome, all our welcome"--trivial pursuit --what movie is that a line from? had to to with ghosts.

Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out shouting "holy crap....what a ride".
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Apr 8, 2011 11:35PM - edited Jun 20, 2011 01:35PM by sas-schatzi

Valgal we'll Pm'em

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Apr 8, 2011 11:39PM - edited Jun 20, 2011 01:35PM by sas-schatzi

pm'em sandyAust and SHE

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Apr 8, 2011 11:53PM Anne1962 wrote:

It is only around 11 p.m. here, but I'm usually up until 1:30-2:00 a.m. I hate when I can't fall asleep. I can be sooo tired and then when I go to bed I'm wide awake. You will likely see me on here, too. Hope everyone gets to sleep eventually!

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Apr 9, 2011 12:04AM sas-schatzi wrote:

ANNe--the Aromasin is doing it to me , been there with arimidex, seeing the same pattern. Bad thing is my dear sweet dog thinks this is now normal. SO< she, waking me up when I am sleeping. UGGGH

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Apr 9, 2011 12:06AM - edited Jun 20, 2011 01:36PM by sas-schatzi

The other night no one was up so I just had a chat with the chickens in the manner of____________(played a psychologist, then and inn keeeper...Known for his hysterical phone conversations)

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Apr 9, 2011 12:09AM jo1955 wrote:

Hi Everyone.  I would like to join you.  

Anne - I am also one who goes to bed dead tired and end up wide awake and toss and turn.  I go to bed at 10:00 and am up sometimes until way past midnight. Then I have to try and get my tired behind out of bed early the next morning and go to work.  How frustrating is that?   

Jo - Lump, no chemo, 25 rads + 5 boosts, Tamox X5 years . cancerr free since Aug 30th, 2010. April 2014 - Latissimus Dorsi Flap Reconstruction. July 13, 2013 - Hysterectomy due to multiple uterine issues while on Tamoxifen.
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Apr 9, 2011 12:11AM - edited Jun 20, 2011 01:36PM by sas-schatzi

Jo welcome, I'd rather talk to you than the chickens. Who is the guy i"m trying to think of played opposite of Suzanne Pleshette

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Apr 9, 2011 12:13AM Thatgirl wrote:

I'm having a love hate relationship with this thread. I'm going to be apart of it but some studies say I should be asleep by 10pm. I bought a bottle of melatonin but have yet to take any. I think better at night.

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Apr 9, 2011 12:15AM - edited Jun 20, 2011 01:36PM by sas-schatzi

Thatgirl well I am the same way , but I started this thread with the hope that when we want to talk in the middle of the night we can find somone real and not sit here and make conversation with imaginary people---------------welcome

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Apr 9, 2011 12:16AM jo1955 wrote:

Thanks SAS - Until I found this thread, I was beginning to think I was the only one up this late at night.  

Jo - Lump, no chemo, 25 rads + 5 boosts, Tamox X5 years . cancerr free since Aug 30th, 2010. April 2014 - Latissimus Dorsi Flap Reconstruction. July 13, 2013 - Hysterectomy due to multiple uterine issues while on Tamoxifen.
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Apr 9, 2011 12:18AM - edited Jun 20, 2011 01:37PM by sas-schatzi

I'm betting there are alot of us, because all the drugs chemo tamox , and AI's all have insomnia as a s.e.

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Apr 9, 2011 12:21AM - edited Jun 20, 2011 01:37PM by sas-schatzi

Hit the refresh button at the top that is next to the red x to see if there are any new posts

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Apr 9, 2011 12:22AM Anne1962 wrote:

jo,

You are like me; it is very frustrating. What is the safest sleep aide? I am a little afraid to take anything. I took tylenol pm once and felt terrible the next morning. It was as though I had my eyes propped open with tooth picks. I was sooo wired and jittery. 

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Apr 9, 2011 12:23AM jo1955 wrote:

No only am I on Tamox, I am also on Lyrica for the "neuropathic pains" in my toes and feet.  That is what my onc is calling it since I did not have chemo.  I also have a history of degenerative joint disease and the Tamox is reeking havoc with it - making it so much worse, plus the joint pain from Tamox.  The Lyrica helps some but still have joint pains which keep me awake at night.  Not that I need anymore reason to stay awake.

Jo - Lump, no chemo, 25 rads + 5 boosts, Tamox X5 years . cancerr free since Aug 30th, 2010. April 2014 - Latissimus Dorsi Flap Reconstruction. July 13, 2013 - Hysterectomy due to multiple uterine issues while on Tamoxifen.
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Apr 9, 2011 12:23AM - edited Jun 20, 2011 01:38PM by sas-schatzi

It might be to early yet. people may actually be gettibg a few zzzzzzzzzzz's or be on there regular threads. who knows how a thread will do. sometimes they take off then other times the dwindle.

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Apr 9, 2011 12:25AM jo1955 wrote:

All the people on my regular threads have all called it a night.  Party poopers.  LOL

Jo - Lump, no chemo, 25 rads + 5 boosts, Tamox X5 years . cancerr free since Aug 30th, 2010. April 2014 - Latissimus Dorsi Flap Reconstruction. July 13, 2013 - Hysterectomy due to multiple uterine issues while on Tamoxifen.
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Apr 9, 2011 12:25AM sas-schatzi wrote:

Jo are you to premenopausal. Can't take AI's yet?

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Apr 9, 2011 12:26AM Anne1962 wrote:

what time is it in florida?

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Apr 9, 2011 12:26AM - edited Jun 20, 2011 01:38PM by sas-schatzi

12:26 Anne

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Apr 9, 2011 12:27AM Anne1962 wrote:

you are an hour later than me.

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Apr 9, 2011 12:28AM sas-schatzi wrote:

Well thats the point here . You're still going with no one to talk to. Could be a godsend for us never know. I'm just tired of mindnumbing tv.

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Apr 9, 2011 12:29AM jo1955 wrote:

SAS - I am post menopausal and tried both Arimidex and Femara.  SEs were too bad - unbelieveable nausea and some disorientation with Femara.  Had to go on Tamox.  

Jo - Lump, no chemo, 25 rads + 5 boosts, Tamox X5 years . cancerr free since Aug 30th, 2010. April 2014 - Latissimus Dorsi Flap Reconstruction. July 13, 2013 - Hysterectomy due to multiple uterine issues while on Tamoxifen.
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Apr 9, 2011 12:31AM - edited Jun 20, 2011 01:39PM by sas-schatzi

I would just like to suggest we spread the word to other threads that to check here late at night to see if anythings going on when they feel the need. We'll get it going . AND time will tell.

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Apr 9, 2011 12:32AM Anne1962 wrote:

I am actually going to get to bed earlier tonight. I have had a cough that sounds like bronchitis and I need to be up early tomorrow. I will catch up with you tomorrow night...unless...

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