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Posted on: Apr 8, 2011 07:45PM - edited Apr 2, 2018 10:30PM by sas-schatzi
Welcome. This is called the insomnia thread, but we post 24/7/365. We call ourselves Owlettes :)
No nastiness, bullying, stalking or such allowed. I would like to keep the kind fabric of this thread intact.
Discussion will flow where it will as all threads do. This will be a happy place. I hope with lots of laughing. Talk of things, needs, rants as your mood or thoughts take you. Each person here has a history of helping others. Threads develop pseudo family groups. Fancy way to say we become like family. This family will have all the best a family has to offer, but none of the negatives.
May help with sleeplessness: circadian rhythm, melatonin--pub med evidence based research. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21476953 Agometaline is approved for use in Europe/Australia for insomnia. It is NOT approved in the USA http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agomelatine
How to naturally reset circadian rhythm with food : http://www.wisebread.com/how-to-naturally-reset-your-sleep-cycle-overnight
Article connecting insomnia and depression. It's a chicken egg thing-..............-insomnia <-----> depression.
Second Sleep---The NORMAL for humans before the light bulb http://slumberwise.com/science/your-ancestors-didnt-sleep-like-you/
Autonomic dysfunction: http://www.holistichelp.net/dysautonomia-autonomic-nervous-system-dysfunction.html
BCO Member Notself's three day plan: 1. Get doc script for sleep aid, at lowest dose. 2. Set sleep time. 3. Take pill 1/2 hr to 1 hr before set time. 4. Do this for three days; 5. Should sleep on fourth night.. 6. Repeat steps 1-5 if sleeplessness has lasted more than one night.
Don'ts that are known to cause sleeplessness: Alcohol, coffee, chocolate, looking at computer screens before bedtime, sex and exersize(variable by person); Do's that promote sleep: Sex and exersize(variable by person) , book reading, foot massage, aromatherapy, sleepy teas. After dinner walk(variable).
Link to Warm & Fuzzy's (W&F) thread: Warm & fuzzy owls, goats, kitties, dogs, birds ETC. PICS &LINKS
For all our dear Sisters .........
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Apr 12, 2018 02:22AM Loveroflife wrote:
Happy Birthday Mags!!!
Apr 12, 2018 02:29AM Loveroflife wrote:
Ms. Sas, just PM’ed you the links to the articles. Warning: do not read when you have sleep attack.
Shep, may today be the last day you have to clean up after Ellie.
Apr 12, 2018 02:49AM magdalene51 wrote:
Another day older and deeper in debt!
My son is cooking me up some dinner. He’s a seat of the pants chef like me, throw a bunch of things together and always tastes great. Tonight’s has zucchini and asparagus, and some chicken. He brought me a tray of crackers with braunschweiger and Muenster cheese for an appetizer. I’m resting, per orders.
Sas, HH nurse did orthstatic bp today, verrrrry interesting.
Apr 12, 2018 03:57AM Egads007 wrote:
Loveroflife - Hiya, and thank you!
Mags - Happy Birthday! It's my DH's bday today as well....your son was very sweet to cook for you, how nice for you!
Apr 13, 2018 08:54AM jaymeb wrote:Mags
Apr 13, 2018 08:59AM jaymeb wrote:
Welcome to this thread. So many great and knowledgeable women. Sas started this forum over five years ago. Not sure the exact year, and it's been booming ever since
Apr 13, 2018 09:04AM jaymeb wrote:Kathindc
Apr 13, 2018 09:09AM jaymeb wrote:Loverly
Apr 13, 2018 09:15AM jaymeb wrote:
Also, anyone know how Patty's doing? I know things were looking up for her. Haven't seen her post lately.
Apr 13, 2018 10:02AM feelingfeline wrote:
Mommy that sounds like a great and positive idea. I am class of '85.
Apr 13, 2018 01:07PM magdalene51 wrote:
OK I feel old now. Class of ‘68! And I turned 67 Wednesday. But I’m still here!
Jay, my son and I have a wonderful story. I was 18 and unmarried in 1970 when he was born, and for many reasons I knew I couldn’t raise him so placed him for adoption. When the internet became a thing, so did mutual consent adoption registries, adoption.com being the go to. I put my info everywhere, but that was where he found me, when he was ready, in 2005. I got a blind email saying “I think I’m who you’re looking for.” Indeed he was, and we’ve spent the last 13 years building a solid loving companionship. His adoptive mother died from breast cancer within weeks of my telling him of mine, but he has a good head on his shoulders and does not seem to have let that mess him up. He married a woman with two young sons and raised them to be fine young men. The older of the two became especially close to DH, and came to the funeral with his dad. He sat right behind me, with his hand on my shoulder throughout the service. He is 25 now, has a very serious relationship with a beautiful and smart young lady. I’m hoping they’ll visit soon.
I never had other children, I became a serial miscarrier. I always regretted that DH and I had none, as I knew he’d be a great dad, and he was a great surrogate dad to my sister’s two after their dad died. They were devastated when DH passed, doubly so because it was within a week of the anniversary of their dad’s passing.
DS has had to be working during the days he’s been here, but we have had lots of opportunity to just sit and talk. We are so alike, but even more, he is so like my father in temperament and mannerisms, more so than any of my father’s descendants in fact. And only in the good ways. Although he works in computer IT, he loves to garden and work with his hands like my father did.
Many years ago I wrote this in the margin of my bible: Lord, restore to me my son. He answered my prayer in ways I could not have imagined.
That’s my story, another chapter, anyway.
Apr 13, 2018 09:07PM Tappermom383 wrote:
What a beautiful story, Mags. You are truly blessed with this family.
Apr 14, 2018 12:48AM queenmomcat wrote:
Yeesh. Getting called for jury duty again. How was I supposed to wear my hair?
Apr 14, 2018 04:24PM feelingfeline wrote:
I think Tina Fey said in her autobiography to try 2 Princess Leia style buns (that was if you didn't want to get selected),
Apr 14, 2018 04:40PM - edited Apr 15, 2018 10:32AM by feelingfeline
Mags being able to be reunited and then develop your relationship is truly a miracle.
I only learned recently that someone I went to school with, (we were in the same year not the same class - I think you might say home room) gave up her son for adoption when she was 20. He would be 31 now. She actually has done an incredible, powerful TEDx talk about it. She said that having made that difficult decision at 20 no other difficult decision that she came to in life scared her because she knew that she had already demonstrated her strength in making this incredibly difficult decision.
(Her TEDx talk is here if you are interested )
Apr 14, 2018 06:09PM queenmomcat wrote:
Right, wig it is. (My hair's pretty short, though enthusiasm counts for something.)
Apr 16, 2018 01:40AM - edited Apr 16, 2018 07:34AM by JunieB
Good Afternoon everyone,
As always I am behind here. It has been quite the challenge lately with my spine issues. I now have 3 spinal fractures. T11, L3 and L5. L3 is healing so the neuro said to leave it alone for now. So my surgery will be on L5, but with the new dx of the T11 compression fracture I don't know what he plans to do, if anything. I have been asking myself why are my vertebrae breaking all of a sudden. Even asked my Endocrinologist and his response was,"Hmmm, I don't know". Are you on Xgeva? Duh! I've told him that. My MO said that it was unlikely that the Faslodex is causing the fractures, but my palliative care provider and an article I read say that yes the AI's DO cause weakening of the bone. Why can't they all get on the same page? This kind of stuff makes me question my choices in doctors. The fear of losing my independence and mobility is ever present. Especially since I have no family to lean on.
Mags - Happy Belated Birthday! I am so glad God answered your prayer and restored you to your son. May you be very comfortable in your new home.
Sas - Glad you were able to come to a decision on painting the wood trim and that you like the outcome.
M0mmy - My condolences on the loss of your high school friend!
Feline - How is Elliot doing?
Loverly - Did you and the girls have fun on your outing yesterday?
Waving Hi to everyone else.
Apr 16, 2018 10:49AM feelingfeline wrote:
Love the kitten gif Junie!
Elliott doing very well thank you. Though he thinks the cursor on my pc screen is a fly that he has a duty to catch!
Apr 17, 2018 05:28AM JunieB wrote:
Feline - Glad to hear that Elliot is having a fun Kittenhood. How is your weather there? Any sign of Spring yet? Here we have had over 3" of rain in the last 2 weeks, but our norm is approx. 1.3" in the first part of April. So ready for some sunshine.
Apr 17, 2018 08:42AM - edited Apr 17, 2018 09:12AM by sas-schatzi
HeLLLoooooooooooooooo Owlies, been having so much fun painting, decluttering (26 years from last move), OMD can't believe the stuff I have been living with that is going to find a new home. But today I needed "something to fill a space" Actually, multiple. Told Di wait. One way up in a closet, one hidden behind a chair. Now they are stellar pieces again. Other things hidden in such ways. One piece has lost it's space. But I will not give up on it yet.
Only a few might find this humorous, I pulled out and old board sign from the last house. "Temperance" It has and eagle and several symbols. It harkens back to pre- Prohibition. I had to explain the Temperance Movement that lead to Prohibition. Which lead to all the problems of Prohibition with the growth of the Mafia, black market alcholol production, transportation, etc. Di had no knowledge of any of this. So the joke of a Tempernace sign in a bar was completely lost on her. I then realized why my son didn't understand when I tried to give it to him. DUH.So it now goes behind the dresser again.
BUT and a very BIG BUT, I brought out a poster hidden away for umpteen years, but never forgotten. It was a first of the Montreal Detroit Jazz festival. It's likely one of few, may be a prototype. I've researched it. The jazz festival went on for years. A key is they produced a new poster every year until they separated.
Why is my poster special? It was year one. How Dad got it was curator, of the sponsor the Detroit Museum of Modern Art, sold it to him for the price of x (?) amount of drinks at my Dad's bar.
I had three pieces that that curator sold to Dad for a drink. One above. The second was a Playbill from "Gone With The Wind"
The other treasure is another poster that has sillouhtes(sic) with their instruments of the following Trane, Bird, Satchmo, Duke, and Miles. A jazz person's dream.
Apr 17, 2018 09:23AM sas-schatzi wrote:
Loverly, OH so funny about the safe place. Never to be seen again. I do have that place. Have told son about it But then it wasn't there.....I tucked it so tightly, it couldn't be found......a lesson,......bad lesson.....so I changed it.
Apr 17, 2018 10:16AM - edited Apr 17, 2018 11:02AM by sas-schatzi
Doing split screening to catch up
Mags your story with son shared here is beautiful
Queenie-----so much laugh on jury duty
Junie, dislike bursting a bubble . The bubble is believing your docs know everything. They do medical school, then a residency, then maybe a fellowship. Then they go into practice. In the practice, they see patients. That are scheduled perhaps ten to fifteen minutes apart, but really need an hour to and hour and a half apart to work everything
They're a docs for every body part and system, and then we can subdivide a system into fractions of a body system
How do we keep ourselves out of the the doc treadmill of seeing another "ologist"
First, find a superlative Primary Care Physician PCP. Junie, I'm writing to the lurkers now. You have tried to work the system correctly and the system--Duh, just keeps sending you to "other docs"
Your question "Why can't they all get on the same page" They don't have the time. They don't have the time.. They don't have the time. They don't have the time
Now what I wrote in the last paragraph reads as horrible. But it is fact. If your doc does take the time and get all the ologist ordered for appropriate test then it's great
A person recently gave me accolades for sticking around BCO to advise...The reality is we need to become experts on our own disease processes whatever they may be, and our drugs. Learned this early 1970's, Hasn't changed.
Case in point is Mag's vasculitis. Doc's went for the standard Fever of Unknown Origin----throw on all the antibiotics. Had Loverly and I not intervened they wouldn't have come to the vasculitus dx until way late. Way late with vasculitus is devastating
Apr 17, 2018 11:56AM feelingfeline wrote:
Junie we seem to be getting no two days the same in a row. the daffodils, crocus and other spring flowers have come up in large numbers but other than that you would hardly know it was spring, its been wet, windy, cold etc. Farmers in genuine crisis mode. However there is a great forecast for the rest of this week, so looking forward to a few days sunshine halleluia! Hopefully some might blow your way.