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Forum: Older Than 60 Years Old With Breast Cancer —

Meet other women who are similar in age and dealing with age-appropriate issues.

Posted on: Feb 7, 2009 03:29PM

Northstar wrote:

I am an "older" woman with breast cancer (I was diagnosed at 65 and am now 66).  I notice that most of the posts seem to be from people younger than I am (often by quite a bit...).   I'd love to "talk" with others my age, exchange info about their diagnoses, effects on their lives, etc.   I see that there is a forum for young women.

Someone suggested that maybe it's that older people aren't so computer-savvy or aren't used to being in online discussion groups.   However, for those who are, it would be great. 

DX 8/15/08, ILC, 5.1 cm, Stage IIb, Grade 1, 0/2 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-, Oncotype DX 11.
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Jan 13, 2022 06:21AM petite1 wrote:

Wren, They sell winter boots down here in Florida, too. I can't imagine why, especially those fuzzy lined ones. Maybe it is Florida boot models. LOL I do wear ankle high boots, sometimes, but not fuzzy lined and with socks.

I am feeling better. Yesterday my joints hurt and I just wanted to lay around and read. That is exactly what I did.

petite Dx 8/23/2019, ILC/IDC, Left, 1cm, Stage IA, Grade 2, 0/7 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2- Radiation Therapy 10/20/2019 Whole-breast: Breast Hormonal Therapy 12/19/2019 Arimidex (anastrozole)
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Jan 13, 2022 06:52AM - edited Jan 13, 2022 07:13AM by IllinoisLady

You have not lived a perfect day, even though you have earned your money, unless you have done something for someone who will never be able to repay you.

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Each day I am thankful for nights that turned into mornings, friends that turned into family, dreams that turned into reality and likes that turned into love. ~~~Elizabeth Kuebler-Ross Dx 9/27/2007, IDC, 5cm, Stage II, Grade 3, 0/3 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2-
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Jan 13, 2022 07:08AM - edited Jan 13, 2022 07:11AM by IllinoisLady

Hooray for laying around and reading when that is indicated. At this stage when we aren't required to be at a job, following a bit closer what the body tells you it needs is really the thing ( if other issues don't get in the way ) that holds you together. Good for you Petite.

Partly cloudy today which I think actually means just cloudy. It will warm through the day to the lower 40's. Nice for us, especially if there is no wind.

I've found the past three nights or so, that despite staying up later I don't seem to do well after sleeping a few hours. I know it is in part because it is hard to sleep on the broken arm, left side. I may have to go back to the Melatonin and see if that makes a diffference. I've been tired enough going to bed I haven't felt the need -- and it is prettty late to take when I do wake up. I've been up 3 days running around 4 or 4:30 a.m. That was when I got up yrs. ago, but not so great now in retirement.

Today we may do the H & H Computer repairs cycle. Dh has turned up a problem in his computer as well. I am going to see about possible ( iffy I think ) solutions for not being able to access Facebook as well as get some quick guidance for switching over my email program from web to Yahoo. Last night as well as this morning -- web mail now seems to require throwing out my first log-in of password and makes me do it again. I started being super careful about this but it still does it. I've never been very happy with web-mail and this is just another strike against it as far as I'm concerned. Usually I would not bother 'our' computer geek about something like a mail program, but I'm spooked a bit by all the upsets I've encountered to date with the web mail set-up. Been on the phone twice or more with the web carrier/mail provider and no satisfaction. I think it is time to move on.

Hope you all have a good day and good weather if possible. Stay safe.

Each day I am thankful for nights that turned into mornings, friends that turned into family, dreams that turned into reality and likes that turned into love. ~~~Elizabeth Kuebler-Ross Dx 9/27/2007, IDC, 5cm, Stage II, Grade 3, 0/3 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2-
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Jan 13, 2022 07:26AM - edited Jan 13, 2022 07:28AM by MCBaker

I read very recently article about sleep problems that are not sleep problems, but labeled so because of the industrial revolution. Therefore they are applicable to us folks who are done with the regimented society. I just found it. It is perfectly normal to wake early, then putter around a bit, then go back to sleep. www.bbc.com/news/magazine-1696... I had started doing this recently, and it works. My meds start wearing off around 4:30. I wake up and take my morning meds, which distributes them 8 hours apart, just as prescribed.

Mary Dx 10/3/2018, DCIS, Right, 6cm+, Stage 0, Grade 3, ER-/PR- Surgery 11/15/2018 Lymph node removal: Sentinel; Mastectomy: Right; Reconstruction (right): Tissue expander placement Dx 11/16/2018, IDC, Right, <1cm, Stage IA, Grade 1, 0/5 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2+ (IHC) Targeted Therapy 12/18/2018 Herceptin (trastuzumab) Chemotherapy 12/19/2018 Taxol (paclitaxel) Surgery 6/27/2019 Reconstruction (right): Fat grafting, Saline implant
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Jan 13, 2022 10:00AM Wren44 wrote:

Wonder if we have the same web mail provider. Mine was bought out recently and service has been in the toilet since. They put people in my address book into known spam. I have a gmail account but I'm definitely not skilled at using it and don't like it.

I had to laugh at the missing tags. Our big orange guy loved the hot wheels car our nephew left here and played with it all the time. We think he knocked it down the basement stairs which are semi open. Despite looking, we have never found it and he's been gone a long time.

Lumpectomy and re-excision followed by mastectomy of right breast. Five years of anastrasole completed.
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Jan 13, 2022 10:46AM CindyNY wrote:

Wren - when I spent last winter stuck in NY, I had to buy some socks! Just the thought of ice cold air, or god forbid snow hitting my ankles makes me shiver. My best socks are old ski socks - real high and very thick.

We were heading to a happy hour in Naples this evening, buts he’s back in bed. He done by 8 fir his meds but when I got up at 9, he went back to bed. I’m calling to notify the group we will not be attending. They’ll be more happy hours.

I took the time he’s sleeping to do more on the paint by numbers. I was in the garage - I’ve set up an indoor/outdoor rug, 2 chairs and a small coffee table. All but the rug are from our neighbors curb side, recycled. I still have a few more numbers. And in the bright light I could see where I missed areas when using the white paint. Oh well!

dx at 58, no family history, onco = 19 Dx 10/6/2017, DCIS/IDC, Left, 1cm, Stage IA, Grade 2, 0/5 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Surgery 11/1/2017 Lumpectomy: Left; Lymph node removal: Sentinel Surgery 11/14/2017 Lumpectomy: Left Radiation Therapy 12/26/2017 Whole-breast: Breast Hormonal Therapy 3/1/2018 Arimidex (anastrozole)
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Jan 13, 2022 11:11AM - edited Jan 13, 2022 03:38PM by ChiSandy

Jackie, mazel tov on the new kitten. They are a challenge (I had to "toddler-proof" my house when my two seniors and their late predecessor were kittens) but so cute and entertaining, And they "imprint" on you early on, so they will be affectionate all their lives. Bummer about the ringworm--which is not a worm but a fungus. Ask for an Rx for a topical antifungal like ketoconazole or betamethasone. Cream is neater but ointment stays on the skin and works longer per application. You could have caught it anywhere.

Wren, it broke my heart yesterday to read that Kroger now owns QFC. It was my favorite supermarket when I lived in Seattle--I would go out of my way to drive the 2 miles to University Village, when the Safeway was within "hiking" distance less than 1/2 mi. up the hill from my apt. near the ship canal. The closest I've seen to QFC ever since was the early days of Mariano's... which is now owned (and run into the ground) by...Kroger. When my mom would visit me from Brooklyn when I was in law school, she would stand in the QFC produce aisle, tears streaming down her face, exclaiming how beautiful the tomatoes & peppers were and marveling at the fact that you could pick whichever one and however many you wanted. In Brooklyn back then, unless you paid through the nose at the greengrocer (who wouldn't let you touch the produce, just point at it), you had to take what Waldbaum's, Pathmark or Key Food packed in multiples in shrinkwrapped styrofoam trays--often rotten on the unseen bottom. That's what keeps me from buying perishables (especially cold cuts, cheeses, and produce) at Trader Joe's. Mom was also impressed that the fish counter guy would give me free salmon trimmings to make gefilte fish--we Jews were few and far between back then in Seattle.

Also, Wren & Betrayal, I don't wear socks in my UGG/EMU boots--the shearling lining keeps my tootsies at body temp at all times (even at -10F in deep snow in MI's Upper Peninsula). Socks would actually interfere with that. And my winter boots are at least mid-calf (though I have a pair of UGG oxfords, with which I wear pants that cover my ankles), so I can tuck my pants in. As I am a bit of a pack rat, most of my UGGs are at least 12 years old. I have 25-yr-old waterproof rubber-topped Sorels for the deepest coldest slush, but they are stiff & uncomfortable no matter what socks I wear. Haven't worn them since I discovered UGGs. When I was obese, mid-calf UGG Classics were the only boots that fit over my calves--and I had to fold them over to insert my feet.

Betrayal, after two cat-bite episodes I got so fed up with GI issues from clindamycin and sky-high prices for doxycycline and Keflex that--per my PCP's advice--I took a penicillin "allergy challenge" test (pinprick, then sub-cu, then finally oral) and found I'm not penicillin-allergic at all. (As to Cipro, they don't do the skin testing, only oral). If you know for sure you're not allergic, get your PCP to write a letter or e-mail to your pharmacy. (If state law allows, the pharmacy and your doctor may allow you to sign a release before filling the 'script).

As to e-mail, Jackie, I'm an "Apple fangurl" as the Gen-Zers say--have been exclusively so since 1998 (and got my first Mac, a monochrome PowerBook 145, in 1992). I used a PC at my office because my secretary & boss insisted. They didn't even do Windows till 1998, using DOS command lines instead of mice & icons. I stopped using my home desktop PC at all after 2002. Bob still insists on Windows for his laptop--that's what his hospitals & office use. But he's an iPhone guy. Apple's Mail program extends to all my iDevices as well. Easy to manage. And I can still use webmail on Safari or Chrome for all my accounts as well. Safari uses Apple's "keychain" password creator/manager, so you can use complex secure passwords without having to memorize them. It works on all my Apple devices. The only passwords I have to remember are my Apple ID, "administrator password" for my MacBook, and numerical passcodes for my devices.

Bob felt safe having a martini at Calo last night while waiting for our takeout order to be prepared. So we will try Regalia tomorrow night if they're open & serving--but will be super-strict about wearing my KN95 between courses and whenever the server approaches. Bob still wears a single surgical mask away from clinical settings because he's in an N95 all day (that's his story and he's sticking with it). We have allergy symptoms all winter long, day in & day out, so it well may be we've already had & recovered from Omicron. (So unless my chronically runny nose intensifies & my throat gets sore, I'm not getting PCR-tested--it'd come up positive even if I had COVID 12 weeks ago).

Finally, got a reply from my melanoma MO last night. He says he doesn't consider me "at all immunocompromised by any of our metrics;" but at my age if Walgreen's is willing to give me a fourth Moderna shot on the same grounds they gave me my booster, he has no objections. I figure that it'll be at least April before an Omicron-and-later-variant-targeted vax is approved; so by the time it's available it'll likely be late May-early June. I'm due for a blood draw for Vit. D, potassium, & Mg levels anyway--perhaps I'll ask him to order an antibody titer as well--since it would all be at the same visit with the hospital's Dracula. If it's high enough, I'll wait on that fourth shot.



Diagnosed at 64 on routine annual mammo, no lump. OncotypeDX 16. I cried because I had no shoes...but then again, I won’t get blisters.... Dx 9/9/2015, IDC, Right, 1cm, Stage IA, Grade 2, 0/4 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- (IHC) Surgery 9/23/2015 Lumpectomy: Right Radiation Therapy 11/2/2015 3DCRT: Breast Hormonal Therapy 12/31/2015 Femara (letrozole)
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Jan 13, 2022 03:07PM ChiSandy wrote:

My MO got back to me and agreed to order an antibody titer, though he warned that results could be difficult to interpret--especially without a baseline for comparison. But it may help me decide whether to take a fourth shot this soon, and whether it should be a full or a "booster" dose of Moderna--it could give me peace of mind should I decide to wait for an Omicron-specific shot.

Diagnosed at 64 on routine annual mammo, no lump. OncotypeDX 16. I cried because I had no shoes...but then again, I won’t get blisters.... Dx 9/9/2015, IDC, Right, 1cm, Stage IA, Grade 2, 0/4 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- (IHC) Surgery 9/23/2015 Lumpectomy: Right Radiation Therapy 11/2/2015 3DCRT: Breast Hormonal Therapy 12/31/2015 Femara (letrozole)
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Jan 13, 2022 05:01PM Betrayal wrote:

Did a marathon lasagna assembly today. I had made the sauce from scratch on Tuesday which ended up being 2 large Corelle ware dishes and as usual baked it in the oven. Sauce contains ground Italian sweet sausage as well as lean ground beef. So today I made one for DS's family of 5, a smaller one for DD and DSIL (still enough for 2 meals), one medium one for our freezer and cooked the larger one for dinner tonight. I own a Food Saver (which I love BTW) machine and will make up packages of individual servings that will go in the freezer as well. DS will get his tomorrow and he can bake it for dinner.

Floor installer finished installing basement flooring but needs to return on Monday to put in trim at doorways to closets. Then he plans on addressing cracked granite tiles in foyer. Fortunately we had extra tiles so if he can replace cracked ones without additional damage, we are good. Otherwise it will mean replacing entire floor and I am not sure of availability for this specific granite tile now. It was a special order when initially installed and not something you can find at local DIY's. I found it at this small business in another county and thankfully developed a good rapport with the owner. He had to special order it (place of origin is SA) and there were more tiles/box when it arrived than he anticipated but he had charged me by box and not by tile. He honored the original price though the wait was longer than he projected. About 9 months later, I read he had been indicted for fraud due to taking orders and deposits and not providing the flooring. I guess I lucked out because he did not screw me and I may have been one of the last customers to receive their order.

Still has to replace marble threshold for MBR as well. The new flooring will require installation of shoe moulding since it is a floating floor and the carpenters will have to return to do that. Basement still needs to be painted before we can start to replace contents and reorganize layout. The basement steps are oak and have been covered with heavy paper to protect them but I am sure they will need to be refinished since this paper has been on for over a year and grit has gotten underneath. Still so much to do and we are now 25 months into restoration.


Surgery 1/31/2016 Lumpectomy: Left Surgery 1/31/2016 Lymph node removal: Sentinel Surgery 3/3/2016 Lumpectomy: Left Radiation Therapy 3/31/2016 Whole-breast: Breast Hormonal Therapy 6/24/2016 Arimidex (anastrozole) Hormonal Therapy 5/18/2017 Femara (letrozole) Hormonal Therapy 6/16/2020 Aromasin (exemestane)
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Jan 13, 2022 05:33PM IllinoisLady wrote:

So remarkable Betrayal. Twenty-five months. My hat is off to you and my heart feels for you. I hope you will be able before too much longer to say DONE AT LAST.

Each day I am thankful for nights that turned into mornings, friends that turned into family, dreams that turned into reality and likes that turned into love. ~~~Elizabeth Kuebler-Ross Dx 9/27/2007, IDC, 5cm, Stage II, Grade 3, 0/3 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2-
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Jan 13, 2022 08:58PM karen1956 wrote:

Wren - I only wear skirts - in the colder weather I wear footless tights or leggings and my socks go over them by a few inches - they are crew height socks.

I don't understand how people wear Uggs in S. Florida. Before I moved my late parent by me, I was in S. Florida at their apt when the SW stopped by. She was young and wearing Uggs. It was probably 75F so "cold' by their standards. I can't wear Ugg type boots, socks or no socks. Too hot for me indoors. I have 2 pairs of snow boots but I generally only wear them outdoors. If the weather is such that I need to wear boots in the car to work, I take shoes to change into. I have "booties" that I love - Blunstones that I live in. They are so comfortable. Pricey but the pair I wear most of the time are 4 years old and still got lots of life in them.

Gorgeous day today - near 60 but cold and snow returns tomorrow.

A dear friend of mine who I visited every Saturday for 7 years passed away this morning. I've known since Monday morning that it was just a matter of time. I last saw her on Saturday. My youngest daughter was also very close to her and was glad that the funeral was also on zoom so she could watch it. She texted after the funeral that being able to watch it, helped her process it.. We have been family friends for many years. She was 90. There is definitely a void in my life. I'm sure I'll notice it more this Saturday.

Everybody stay warm, safe and healthy.

Karen in Denver, Dx 02/03/2006, ILC, stage IIIa, ER/PR+, HER2-,
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Jan 13, 2022 09:58PM CindyNY wrote:

Karen1956- sorry for the loss of your friend.

I too can’t wear Uggs. My flat feet need orthotics, and the Uggs give me nothing. I could probably stick an orthotic in them but that defeats the purpose.

Cleaning out various things, doing The Cure with daily chores to accomplish. I took down everything from the second shelf in the master closet. Turns out lots of sheets from previous owner (bought turn key).. Washed them all and ended up with 2 queen sets, 1 king set, and many many pillow cases - some king and possibly body pillow pillowcases. Unsure what to do with them all. I could use the Queen sets but doubt I will.

Hope you all had a good day. Temps here: 74 was the high, but as sun sets it drops fast. As I grilled it was 64 and felt cool. The 70’s are predicted for the next couple of days. All good by me.

dx at 58, no family history, onco = 19 Dx 10/6/2017, DCIS/IDC, Left, 1cm, Stage IA, Grade 2, 0/5 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Surgery 11/1/2017 Lumpectomy: Left; Lymph node removal: Sentinel Surgery 11/14/2017 Lumpectomy: Left Radiation Therapy 12/26/2017 Whole-breast: Breast Hormonal Therapy 3/1/2018 Arimidex (anastrozole)
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Jan 14, 2022 12:00AM ChiSandy wrote:

I was able to find off-the-shelf shearling orthotics (Pedag) for my UGGs. I also traced an outline of my feet on to the skin side of a couple of shearling scraps--which I place atop my prescription orthotics that go into the EMUs (which are a bit too loose without them). I wear shearling slippers indoors year-round (except when it's so hot and my feet so sweaty that I switch to OOFOS foam slides instead--the sweat would mat the shearling).

Diagnosed at 64 on routine annual mammo, no lump. OncotypeDX 16. I cried because I had no shoes...but then again, I won’t get blisters.... Dx 9/9/2015, IDC, Right, 1cm, Stage IA, Grade 2, 0/4 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- (IHC) Surgery 9/23/2015 Lumpectomy: Right Radiation Therapy 11/2/2015 3DCRT: Breast Hormonal Therapy 12/31/2015 Femara (letrozole)
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Jan 14, 2022 05:50AM karen1956 wrote:

Cindy - can you donate the sheets?

It's 35F now but high is only going to be 42. Not sure that we'll get much snow. High 40s low 50s all week but no snow after today.

Was lazy this morning, didn't get out of bed till 6am. Was up at 4 but I refuse to get up that early. I did fall asleep for a bit, then lay in bed. DH got up at 5:45 and I was awake lay in bed a little longer.

We are dropping off my car at 8 for oil change, then I need to go to grocery and then bring food to my friends family for Shiva.

And of course my regular Friday cooking and cleaning.

Have a wonderful Friday.

Karen in Denver, Dx 02/03/2006, ILC, stage IIIa, ER/PR+, HER2-,
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Jan 14, 2022 07:34AM MCBaker wrote:

I agree about the sheets. I had an excess of pillowcases and took them to Goodwill.

Karen, so sad you lost your friend, a member of your faith community.

I went to bed at nine thirty. But fitbit said I didn't get to sleep until 10:58. I woke up at 4:14, took my meds, and played around with computer and phone, pottied the dog, then went back to bed at 6:21 and slept until 8:57. 7:13 according to fitbit.

Mary Dx 10/3/2018, DCIS, Right, 6cm+, Stage 0, Grade 3, ER-/PR- Surgery 11/15/2018 Lymph node removal: Sentinel; Mastectomy: Right; Reconstruction (right): Tissue expander placement Dx 11/16/2018, IDC, Right, <1cm, Stage IA, Grade 1, 0/5 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2+ (IHC) Targeted Therapy 12/18/2018 Herceptin (trastuzumab) Chemotherapy 12/19/2018 Taxol (paclitaxel) Surgery 6/27/2019 Reconstruction (right): Fat grafting, Saline implant
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Jan 14, 2022 07:37AM IllinoisLady wrote:

The value of all service lies in the spirit in which you serve and not in the importance or magnitude of the service. Even the lowliest task or deed is made holy, joyous, and prosperous when it is filled with love.


Charles Fillmore

Each day I am thankful for nights that turned into mornings, friends that turned into family, dreams that turned into reality and likes that turned into love. ~~~Elizabeth Kuebler-Ross Dx 9/27/2007, IDC, 5cm, Stage II, Grade 3, 0/3 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2-
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Jan 14, 2022 08:02AM IllinoisLady wrote:

We may get snow tonight late, after rain falls for awhile. If so, I do hope we don't end up with ice under snow. Seems otherwise that it may be a good day. Main concern is my daughter who isn't used to winter weather. As it has been so strange and snow coming so late --- if we do get it, it may be less or easier to deal with. She does have ( after work today ) two days off ) but it will remain cold enough for anything ( snow ) to stay for a bit. Slow warming will happen and if we don't have much, warm enough to get rid of any accumulation.

I was able to take my computer in yesterday. Don't know if I mentioned Dh had an issue as well -- so both went in. I was able to get my old email back and get off the crazy web mail that was driving me up the wall. As well, the geek was able to restore my Facebook. He found the page/screen that actually allows you to reset your password. I was so thrilled that I forgot seeeing about the couple of other things that have bugged me since IE shut down. Well, maybe I can find my cousin and he, being a nerd as well may be able to take care of the things I forgot. The price was right. Just $50.00 for both computers. I really can't squawk since I couldn't get anywhereon fixes, and both computers were fixed before the afternoon ( we took them in at noon ) was even over.

I had some trouble once again with sleeping. I was so tired when I went to bed that I thought I would surely do better. Well, I think it is back to the Melatonin for me. I still wake up to use the bathroom, but I tended while on Melatonin, to fall back to sleep a lot easier and seemed like I could stay to sleep a little longer. I got up finally around 4:30 a.m. because while my bed is fairly comfortable my body just needed to move more. Laying still was going to become impossible. I remained tired though and so turned on the tv in the living room and got in a recliner Sometimes I can do a good dose there.

Nothing special planned for today. I'm still awaiting my booster to take full effect. I really won't go out much at all even then til' life/Omicrom dies back around here. I do have N-95 masks which I have used the slight few times I have been out. I'm hoping we can make it through ( my whole househod ) w/o anyone geting any covid. Flucoved seems to have been explained as just people -- vaccinated or not getting a case of the flu and the same time as covid so meaning not a new strain -- just a noticed event. Leaves one to wonder -- how many more strains may or may not come along. Read earlier that some think the pandemic, hopefully after Omicrom, will turn into endemic. Means that enough people will have had covid and or its variants to date, while the rest have gotten vaccinated and covid will at that point allow us to live with it just like we do the flu. I hope I have this right because I do feel some hope that we can all successfully reach a point where even if we sill need some precautions ( whatever they might be ) we will be able to likely come and go with a bit more safety then if possible now. I presume then every yr. we would get not only the flu shot, and pneumonia when needed, as well as another covid booster. Time will tell.

Each day I am thankful for nights that turned into mornings, friends that turned into family, dreams that turned into reality and likes that turned into love. ~~~Elizabeth Kuebler-Ross Dx 9/27/2007, IDC, 5cm, Stage II, Grade 3, 0/3 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2-
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Jan 14, 2022 09:49AM ChiSandy wrote:

Even though IL's COVID daily new-case counts remain sky-high, they're less so than last week. Both case and test-positivity rates are slowly inching down (as much as a percentage point each day). According to The Atlantic, if you've been boosted and you always hand-wash, avoid crowds, social-distance outside your home and wear an N95 or KN95/KF94 indoors in public (or when a stranger enters your home), you are protected--even from the unvaxed maskholes. And as less effective as this year's quadrivalent flu shot is (apparently 70% of cases are an "A" strain not in the vaccine), the physical measures that protect against even Omicron will protect against flu as well.

I noticed on FB our keywestfan is still in Key West--posting tantalizing dessert photos, including a mile-high Key lime meringue pie. The literary festival must have been a dream come true. As high as SE FL's numbers are, I think it's safer down there in the fresh air than it is in the corridors and elevators of a Chicago-area apt. bldg.

Diagnosed at 64 on routine annual mammo, no lump. OncotypeDX 16. I cried because I had no shoes...but then again, I won’t get blisters.... Dx 9/9/2015, IDC, Right, 1cm, Stage IA, Grade 2, 0/4 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- (IHC) Surgery 9/23/2015 Lumpectomy: Right Radiation Therapy 11/2/2015 3DCRT: Breast Hormonal Therapy 12/31/2015 Femara (letrozole)
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Jan 14, 2022 10:47AM - edited Jan 14, 2022 10:47AM by MCBaker

I am so isolated that I don't even think of covid most days unless I see something on social media. I am doing a huge custom-sewing job for a woman who was dashing around with issues. Her communications were a bit here and then a bit there, then silence. I was thinking she was mad at me (doing custom sewing by internet is like walking on a tightwire). Then she suddenly reappeared, she had been sick. She finally divulged that she is a traveling nurse. Whew! We are at opposite ends of the spectrum in terms of covid awareness.

Anyway, I need to get ready for silver sneakers online class. My doctor has okayed me for that and walking the dog when the sidewalk is clear. We are having persistent light snow today.

Mary Dx 10/3/2018, DCIS, Right, 6cm+, Stage 0, Grade 3, ER-/PR- Surgery 11/15/2018 Lymph node removal: Sentinel; Mastectomy: Right; Reconstruction (right): Tissue expander placement Dx 11/16/2018, IDC, Right, <1cm, Stage IA, Grade 1, 0/5 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2+ (IHC) Targeted Therapy 12/18/2018 Herceptin (trastuzumab) Chemotherapy 12/19/2018 Taxol (paclitaxel) Surgery 6/27/2019 Reconstruction (right): Fat grafting, Saline implant
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Jan 14, 2022 11:01AM Wren44 wrote:

I got some cone shaped N95 masks and they don't fit me at all. I can feel the air gushing upward to fog my glasses. I think I can wear one underneath my cloth mask that fits perfectly, but it won't be comfortable. I hesitate to buy another batch with a different fit for fear I'll just have 2 boxes that don't fit me. My face is sort of flat which may be the problem. I'm taking DH in for his booster this afternoon. Not sure what to insist he wear.

Lumpectomy and re-excision followed by mastectomy of right breast. Five years of anastrasole completed.
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Jan 14, 2022 03:53PM CeliaC wrote:

Hubs and I continue to mask when on our rare visits to stores, our lone "outside the house" activity. We have a good supply of KN95s, plus the blue/white surgical masks on hand. We hand wash all the time & even use disinfectant wipes on items we purchase at stores. Social distancing has become such a norm for us.

MCBaker - I do a lot of SilverSneakers via zoom classes. Hope you enjoy them!

Dx 12/2/2016, DCIS/IDC, Left, <1cm, Stage IA, Grade 1, 0/1 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Surgery 12/21/2016 Lumpectomy: Left; Lymph node removal: Sentinel Radiation Therapy 2/21/2017 Whole-breast: Breast Hormonal Therapy 4/5/2017 Arimidex (anastrozole)
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Jan 14, 2022 04:10PM MCBaker wrote:

I have attended twice. First time it was obvious she was watching me-- the second time another coach had many many people there. I really don't have to worry about self-consciousness with not being able to (cliche) pat my head while rubbing my belly. It might be a good fit for me. In fact, I just linked my TV to my computer, because the small monitor picture makes lip-reading difficult.


Mary Dx 10/3/2018, DCIS, Right, 6cm+, Stage 0, Grade 3, ER-/PR- Surgery 11/15/2018 Lymph node removal: Sentinel; Mastectomy: Right; Reconstruction (right): Tissue expander placement Dx 11/16/2018, IDC, Right, <1cm, Stage IA, Grade 1, 0/5 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2+ (IHC) Targeted Therapy 12/18/2018 Herceptin (trastuzumab) Chemotherapy 12/19/2018 Taxol (paclitaxel) Surgery 6/27/2019 Reconstruction (right): Fat grafting, Saline implant
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Jan 14, 2022 06:11PM keywestfan wrote:

Sandy, Of course we may be safer in Key West from Covid than we are in the halls of the Mather Independent Living Complex where there are now 14 breakthrough cases of the Residents and about 40 of the employees- everyone is vaccinated, though not necessarily boosted. We walk in KW down neighborhood streets which are basically deserted and through the old cemetery with huge iguanas, but few people. It’s the food we are not safe from- I, who don’t even like desserts, am in Heaven. Tonight we decided against a lemon brandied bread pudding with a caramel sauce and its all I can think of. If not Covid, then death by gorging.

Just got of the phone with DS, Tony, extremely intelligent, but angry with him. He is taking 13 year old son to a Bulls game. I think it’s insane to go into that crowd. Or, as he did last night, to take my GS to the movies in Northbrook to see Scream. We never fight, but I told him I thought he was being irresponsible and we both quickly got off the phone.

Arimidex, June 2019 Dx 2/14/2019, IDC, Right, 1cm, Stage IA, Grade 2, ER+/PR+, HER2- (IHC) Surgery 3/23/2019 Lumpectomy: Right Radiation Therapy 4/29/2019 Hormonal Therapy
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Jan 14, 2022 06:14PM 1946Taco wrote:

Your favorite thrift shop would love to have your sheets.

Have a safe weekend everyone!





Dx 11/22/2016, IDC: Tubular, Left, <1cm, Stage IA, Grade 2, 0/3 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2+ (FISH) Radiation Therapy 12/28/2016 Balloon-catheter Targeted Therapy 2/2/2017 Herceptin (trastuzumab) Chemotherapy 2/2/2017 Taxol (paclitaxel) Hormonal Therapy 12/3/2017 Femara (letrozole) Hormonal Therapy Arimidex (anastrozole)
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Jan 14, 2022 07:54PM - edited Jan 14, 2022 08:04PM by ChiSandy

Judy, John at Regalia says hi. (First restaurant meal I've had in nearly two weeks). You have earned every dessert & then some! (We didn't have dessert tonight but they did comp us our proseccos). It was quite busy tonight--unlike most other places in Edgewater & Andersonville. Being one of the few places open till 11pm may have something to do with it. Weather-wise, you hit the jackpot down in the Keys: up here, it's snowy tonight (lake effect), but sticking only on the grass & some cars. We are dodging a major bullet: there is a huge storm system crossing the IA/IL state line as we speak, but skipping us and dipping way south & east before it heads back north to first slam KY & TN as rain, then VA & WV as snow and deep-freeze, and then NYC as possibly a rain superstorm with flooding.

Celia, KN95s, social distancing and handwashing are great; but disinfectant-wiping your purchases? An utter waste of wipes. (Save them for handles, doorknobs & toilet seats), Fomite transmission is not a "thing" when it comes to COVID and even flu--they are both spread via shared air. Just wash your hands when you get home and after unpacking your purchases,

Wren, you need to experiment with what shape high-filtration mask fits you best. N95s come in four shapes: horizontal-fold, aka "duckbill;" vertical-fold, like KN95s but with head straps rather than ear-loops; "boat-shaped" with a flat front panel, like a KF94 but with head straps: and dome-shaped (like a cup or cone), the more rigid of which are least forgiving fit-wise but the softer ones are very "forgiving.". The gold standard in those are made by Demetech and are the least likely to cause eyeglass fogging, but they're usually sold out. The ones that are likelier to fit a flatter face are the KF94s (BOTN's version has adjustable-length earloops), the boat-shaped N95s (3M), and evolvetogether's KN95s that are shaped like KN94s and come in colors (beige, black, navy & burgundy). I like the latter--but because I have a small face & chin, I have to twist or knot the earloops to make the mask fit snugly beneath my chin with no gaps. My guess is that you'd be happiest with those, KF94s, or 3M's boat-shaped N95s.

Our N95s are the duckbill (Kimberly-Clark) and vertical-fold (Indiana Face Mask). Armbrust America has introduced FL-made duckbill N95s--if you buy them in lots of 300 they're only 66 cents each; in boxes of 50 they're a buck apiece--still cheaper than the KN95s. The thing about these N95s is that you can adjust the fit by where you anchor the head straps. Bob prefers the dome-shaped N95s--early in the pandemic he brought home a rigid molded cup-shaped one with netting over it--but even with my small face & tiny chin I found it uncomfortably tight. I'm happiest with KN95s--they seem to fit snugly enough without gaps and still give me breathing room. But tomorrow when I go to Evenston Hosp's lab for my blood draws, I'll wear an N95, no matter how uncomfortable (I'll take it off when I get back in the car). Not taking any chances in a building full of sick people (especially if I have to walk through the ER's waiting room to get to the garage).

Bob was about to walk out the door tonight double-surgical-masked (he's in N95s all day long), till I gave him a white (Powecom) KN95. He'd never tried one before and was quite pleased--especially because it completely covers his beard and it's both disposable and reusable. We have lots of surgicals at this point. I always keep an envelope full of them in my purse to hand out to unmasked people I see. And when case numbers have dropped sufficiently, I'll wear them under my cloth masks (the latter of which I've packed away till this blows over). Last week at the nail salon I wore one over a KN95; I realize that was overkill.

BTW, I found out the difference between a true surgical and a "procedure" mask--the former is actually comfier & more breathable because it needs to be worn for very long surgeries in the OR; the latter is cheaper, less breathable, and usually discarded between patients.

Diagnosed at 64 on routine annual mammo, no lump. OncotypeDX 16. I cried because I had no shoes...but then again, I won’t get blisters.... Dx 9/9/2015, IDC, Right, 1cm, Stage IA, Grade 2, 0/4 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- (IHC) Surgery 9/23/2015 Lumpectomy: Right Radiation Therapy 11/2/2015 3DCRT: Breast Hormonal Therapy 12/31/2015 Femara (letrozole)
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Jan 15, 2022 06:47AM carolehalston wrote:

I played golf with three women yesterday. Two of them attended a golf luncheon on Wednesday and sat with a friend who developed Covid symptoms that night. This friend tested positive. I agreed to continue with the golf outing, thinking it would be safe outdoors. So far I'm not sorry I agreed. My golf was as bad as usual and I was pooped afterwards.

I was invited to the same luncheon and didn't consider going.

Today my chores are doing laundry and deciding on what to have for dinner. Every now and then I seem to confront a roadblock. I may make some hamburger buns with a mix of whole wheat and white flour and cook lamb burgers tonight. It will be a good day to use the oven. The extra buns can go into the freezer. Hmmm.

Happy Saturday to all.

Nipple-Sparing BMX w/Alloderm & Silicone Implants 7/24/09, Oncotype Dx 9, No Chemo, No Rads, Arimidex Dx 6/25/2009, IDC, 1cm, Stage I, Grade 3, 0/4 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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Jan 15, 2022 07:10AM IllinoisLady wrote:

Never forget that the purpose for which we live is the improvement of ourselves, so that we may go out of this world having, in our great sphere or our small one, done some little good for our fellow creatures and labored a little to diminish the sin and sorrow that are in the world. -William E. Gladstone

Each day I am thankful for nights that turned into mornings, friends that turned into family, dreams that turned into reality and likes that turned into love. ~~~Elizabeth Kuebler-Ross Dx 9/27/2007, IDC, 5cm, Stage II, Grade 3, 0/3 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2-
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Jan 15, 2022 07:16AM IllinoisLady wrote:

We did not get our three inches of snow, nor or we getting snow now which they said we would. Kate has to go into work even though its a day off ( and she worked lots of overtime this week ) so more overtime. She hasn't driven in the snow so her boss would have come to pick her up but it looks like she will be fine. Having rain/snow right now. Nothing is sticking as it is above freezing. No matter what happens though, at the front of this coming week there will be warm temps which spell melt to anything on the ground then.

Nothing special planned today, but then I can say that most days. Better sleep last night as I took the Melatonin again. I stil get up to use the bathroom, but I go to sleep right away when I snuggle back in bed. Don't know why I still feel a bit tired. May be a weather thing. The gray just wipes me out most of the time.

Each day I am thankful for nights that turned into mornings, friends that turned into family, dreams that turned into reality and likes that turned into love. ~~~Elizabeth Kuebler-Ross Dx 9/27/2007, IDC, 5cm, Stage II, Grade 3, 0/3 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2-
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Jan 15, 2022 12:24PM CeliaC wrote:

ChiSandy - Thanks for the "saving the wipes" suggestion. Will see if DH will buy into this. Re: Powecom K95s: These are the ones I have. How long can they be used before being discarded? I have heard varying theories on this, but figured you would have a knowledgeable answer. Very appreciative of your perspective.

We are on the northern border of KY (8 miles south of Cinci) and keeping an eye on the weather. Big playoff game later this afternoon here, and they are predicting some snow during the game. Grew up in the snowbelt of NE Ohio, on the shores of Lake Erie, so cold/snow not as bothersome to me as folks around here.

Those in colder climates - Stay warm and stay safe!

Dx 12/2/2016, DCIS/IDC, Left, <1cm, Stage IA, Grade 1, 0/1 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Surgery 12/21/2016 Lumpectomy: Left; Lymph node removal: Sentinel Radiation Therapy 2/21/2017 Whole-breast: Breast Hormonal Therapy 4/5/2017 Arimidex (anastrozole)
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Jan 15, 2022 04:25PM Betrayal wrote:

This ties in to the discussion of what to do with unneeded sheets. There was a story on the news about a local 89 yo who takes used sheets and drapes and converts them into very cute dresses for girls that live in poverty stricken countries. I forget how many thousand she has made and donated but she makes contrasting trim, adds buttons, etc to make them unique and stylish. She currently had 500 awaiting a donation source and vows she will continue to do this as long as she is able. She even is willing to deconstruct sheets (including fitted where she removes the elastic) and drapes to get the fabric she needs. Each dress takes approximately 5-1/2 hours to make. They showed the dresses she has made and they were very cute. Plus photos of children who have received them and proudly modeled them. Admirable, so your sheets are vital to a process such as this. She wants to recycle so she will not accept new fabrics.

Surgery 1/31/2016 Lumpectomy: Left Surgery 1/31/2016 Lymph node removal: Sentinel Surgery 3/3/2016 Lumpectomy: Left Radiation Therapy 3/31/2016 Whole-breast: Breast Hormonal Therapy 6/24/2016 Arimidex (anastrozole) Hormonal Therapy 5/18/2017 Femara (letrozole) Hormonal Therapy 6/16/2020 Aromasin (exemestane)

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