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Topic: Hair looks terrible even without chemo

Forum: "Middle Age" 40-60(ish) Years Old With Breast Cancer —

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Posted on: Feb 12, 2012 07:18AM

Denise2730 wrote:

Can just surgery alone damage your hair? Mine used to be nice and silky and straight. Now it's dry, brittle and won't do anything. I don't know if it's the 6 hour anesthesia from the DMX or the 6 weeks I took the Femara but it's looking pretty bad.

I cut it from pretty long to a bob and still it looks terrible. Thinking about going short again. Anyone else notice this after surgery and/or Femara?

Denise

DMX 8/11/11 - TE's put in. Exchange date was December 16th. Hate them and had them redone by a different PS in June, 2012. They look so much better. Still waiting for nips & areolas. Dx 4/29/2011, ILC, 1cm, Stage IIA, Grade 2, 1/7 nodes, ER+, HER2-
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Feb 12, 2012 07:22AM crystalphm wrote:

I am so sorry to hear you are having this problem, but I am also so relieved to hear there is someone else like me.

First of all, I had 2 mastectomies, 18 months apart, and my halr, about 1/3 fell out after the surgeries...no chemo, no radiation.

Now it is brittle, I have scalp dryness and flaking, it doesn't lay right anymore...and I have no idea what is happening.

My doctor felt it was the extreme stress as well as the anesthesia...I too have gone from very long to a short bob....

I hope we get some answers...it is not a big problem compared to what so many women deal with, I respect this, but it is a breast cancer related problem which knocks the self esteem.

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Feb 12, 2012 07:24AM Denise2730 wrote:

Are you on any hormone therapy?

DMX 8/11/11 - TE's put in. Exchange date was December 16th. Hate them and had them redone by a different PS in June, 2012. They look so much better. Still waiting for nips & areolas. Dx 4/29/2011, ILC, 1cm, Stage IIA, Grade 2, 1/7 nodes, ER+, HER2-
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Feb 12, 2012 07:44AM ruthbru wrote:

Try Nioxin shampoo and conditioner.

"Invisible threads are the strongest ties." Friedrich Nietzsche Dx 2/2007, Stage IIA, Grade 3, 0/11 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2-
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Feb 12, 2012 07:49AM apple wrote:

yeah.. hair is a problem. 

i rub a tiny amount of coconut oil into my hands and rub it into my hair the day before, of, shampooing.. it really helps to moisterize and make it glossy.. (i just use organic coconut oil from the health food store.. it's quite solid below 70 degrees... but rubbing it in your hands quickly dissipates.  i brush my hair then with a natural boar's bristle brush to distribute it.. it actually works pretty well as a styling gel'.... if you use just a tiny bit.. (like 1/8th of a teaspoon for a bob) and rub it well into your hands and hair.. starting from the bottom so your top hairs do not look greasy.  coconut oil in hair product stores often contains petrolatum.. which i avoid.

peace and love, apple - ..... Mary Magdalen Dx 4/10/2008, IDC, 5cm, Stage IV, Grade 3, 4/9 nodes, mets, ER+, HER2+
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Feb 12, 2012 07:50AM Ang7 wrote:

Hi,

Not to sound like a commercial but I am using Sea-Chi hair growth formula.  It can be purchased on their website - seachi.com 

Everyone I know has been commenting on my hair.  It is stronger, longer and softer than before chemo.  I just got an offer if you order before Thursday, Feb. 16th and use the code LOVE2012 you will get 40% off.  Their products are expensive normally but all natural...

Very pleased Penguin Cold Cap user Dx 5/25/2009, IDC, 2cm, Stage IIA, Grade 2, 1/4 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2+
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Feb 12, 2012 07:56AM sandilee wrote:

I hear ya!   I lost a third of my hair after my mets diagnosis and after radiation and starting Faslodex. The thinning seems to have stopped, but the hair I have left is dryer (and grayer) than before. Even this time last year, my hair was thick, shiny and manageable. Not now. 

  So you would think with everything else going on with mets, my hair issues wouldn't be such a big deal, but it matters!  If we don't think we look good, it's really hard to feel good.  And even with mets, feeling good is a big priority.

  I'm experimenting with shampoos and conditioners. I've found some that do help with body and shine. I haven't gone really short yet--I don't think that will make me feel better, as I really like the shoulder-length.   I do trim my ends a lot-- take an inch off every few weeks, which adds body. 

Dx 11/2007, IDC, 1cm, Stage IA, Grade 2, 0/6 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2- Hormonal Therapy 1/10/2008 Aromasin (exemestane) Dx 6/2011, IDC, mets Radiation Therapy 6/30/2011 Bone Hormonal Therapy 7/15/2011 Faslodex (fulvestrant) Hormonal Therapy 4/10/2015 Femara (letrozole) Targeted Therapy 4/20/2015 Ibrance (palbociclib) Chemotherapy 8/4/2015 Xeloda (capecitabine) Hormonal Therapy 3/11/2016 Tamoxifen pills (Nolvadex, Apo-Tamox, Tamofen, Tamone) Chemotherapy 10/13/2016 Doxil (doxorubicin) Chemotherapy 4/4/2018 Navelbine (vinorelbine) Hormonal Therapy 6/6/2018 Faslodex (fulvestrant) Targeted Therapy 6/6/2018 Verzenio Chemotherapy 4/23/2019 Carboplatin (Paraplatin), Gemzar (gemcitabine)
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Feb 12, 2012 09:12AM lago wrote:

Surgery and anesthesia can effect your hair. Some people even experience hair loss. It shouldn't be permanent if it's from surgery.

DONE!! goo.gl/IoaN6U • Tattoos 2.7.2012 • Nipples 10.6.2011 • Exchange 6.24.2011 • Chemo 1.18. 2011 • BMX 8.31.2010 Dx 7/13/2010, IDC, 5cm, Stage IIB, Grade 3, 0/14 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2+
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Feb 12, 2012 09:15AM Shrek4 wrote:

Try taking Biotin. It should help revitalize and re-grow your hair. I personally had no issues after 110 1/2 hours of anesthesia, but I know it can affect some people.

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Feb 12, 2012 02:12PM Denise2730 wrote:

Thank you ladies!

DMX 8/11/11 - TE's put in. Exchange date was December 16th. Hate them and had them redone by a different PS in June, 2012. They look so much better. Still waiting for nips & areolas. Dx 4/29/2011, ILC, 1cm, Stage IIA, Grade 2, 1/7 nodes, ER+, HER2-
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Feb 12, 2012 04:14PM crystalphm wrote:

I would like to thank everyone too... I bought the nioxin today...I didn't know they made a conditioner so I have to look for that. And the coconut oil...

I will try all of the ideas...this has been frustrating to finally be cancer free and to have such bad hair!

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Feb 13, 2012 09:24AM Denise2730 wrote:

Can the nioxin shampoo & conditioner be purchased at most retail stores?

Denise

DMX 8/11/11 - TE's put in. Exchange date was December 16th. Hate them and had them redone by a different PS in June, 2012. They look so much better. Still waiting for nips & areolas. Dx 4/29/2011, ILC, 1cm, Stage IIA, Grade 2, 1/7 nodes, ER+, HER2-
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Feb 13, 2012 04:18PM ruthbru wrote:

Any beauty salon should have them.

"Invisible threads are the strongest ties." Friedrich Nietzsche Dx 2/2007, Stage IIA, Grade 3, 0/11 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2-
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Feb 13, 2012 04:22PM msphil wrote:

Hello, I just cut mine very short I had longer hair before all the treatment, cuuting it helped me when it did start to come ou, wasn,t so dramatic.  God Bless and it will come back.  msphil 

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Feb 13, 2012 04:23PM Wendyspet wrote:

Has the doc checked your thyroid?  Dry hair, skin, sensitivity to cold, tiredness and constipation are symptoms of hypothyroidism.

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Feb 13, 2012 04:53PM Denise2730 wrote:

Very interesting - my sister has some sort of thyroid issue, forgot whether it's hypo or hyper. I'll have to mention this to my GP when I see him next month.

DMX 8/11/11 - TE's put in. Exchange date was December 16th. Hate them and had them redone by a different PS in June, 2012. They look so much better. Still waiting for nips & areolas. Dx 4/29/2011, ILC, 1cm, Stage IIA, Grade 2, 1/7 nodes, ER+, HER2-
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Feb 14, 2012 11:26AM - edited Feb 14, 2012 11:26AM by Denise2730

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DMX 8/11/11 - TE's put in. Exchange date was December 16th. Hate them and had them redone by a different PS in June, 2012. They look so much better. Still waiting for nips & areolas. Dx 4/29/2011, ILC, 1cm, Stage IIA, Grade 2, 1/7 nodes, ER+, HER2-
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Feb 14, 2012 11:27AM Denise2730 wrote:

How do you post a picture?

DMX 8/11/11 - TE's put in. Exchange date was December 16th. Hate them and had them redone by a different PS in June, 2012. They look so much better. Still waiting for nips & areolas. Dx 4/29/2011, ILC, 1cm, Stage IIA, Grade 2, 1/7 nodes, ER+, HER2-
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Feb 14, 2012 03:30PM crystalphm wrote:

Yes, I have had my thyroid checked and yes, it is off, but I have been on synthroid for 2 years now and my numbers are very stable.

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Feb 27, 2012 09:30PM Denise2730 wrote:

Well as you ladies can tell I got fed up with the hair and cut it short. Luckily I look better in short hair anyway. We've had a very warm winter here in SW Florida so I'm not missing the length.

DMX 8/11/11 - TE's put in. Exchange date was December 16th. Hate them and had them redone by a different PS in June, 2012. They look so much better. Still waiting for nips & areolas. Dx 4/29/2011, ILC, 1cm, Stage IIA, Grade 2, 1/7 nodes, ER+, HER2-
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Feb 28, 2012 03:06AM chrissilini wrote:

I hate that everyone is having this problem but glad to know I'm not alone. I've always had thin hair but since my bmx 12/8/11, it's gotten so much worse. It's getting harder and harder to hide it. No chemo, rads or HT. My doc said that the stress and trauma of surgery can cause it to thin. Oh boy. Can't wait for my exchange surgery in a few weeks. I'll have nothing left.

 I've been using Nioxin for a couple of years and my hair stylist swore that my hair was fuller and thicker. Stopped using at the time of my surgery and I'm back to using it. Also trying Biotin. Even Walmart sells Nioxin products in the salon at my local store. There is a variety of products. I like the thickening spray real well. They do carry conditioner also.

Dx 11/11/2011, IDC, <1cm, Stage IA, Grade 1, 0/3 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Surgery 12/7/2011 Lymph node removal: Left, Sentinel; Mastectomy: Left, Right Surgery 3/14/2012 Reconstruction (left); Reconstruction (right)
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Mar 24, 2012 09:23AM - edited Mar 24, 2012 03:00PM by goforhope2011

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