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Topic: VITAMIN K2 combined with Vitamin D3 IMPROVES bone density

Forum: Bone Health and Bone Loss — Talk with others about bone density, osteopenia and osteoporosis, and ways to keep your bones strong

Posted on: Dec 24, 2015 09:16PM - edited Dec 24, 2015 09:35PM by macb04

macb04 wrote:

Something I never see mentioned, which was never mentioned to me even when I saw an orthopedic specialist after breaking my foot, was that Vitamin K2 deficiency along with Vitamin D3 deficiency increases the risk of fractures.

Just look at the following research about it. Vitamin K2 works SYNERGISTICICALLY with Vitamin D3 to move Calcium out of blood vessels and soft tissue spaces into bones. Without enough Vitamin K2 it is very hard to get the Calcium into your bones. Not only that, but Vitamin K2 is important in lowering risks of Atherosclerosis and Coronary Heart Disease. This should be a major health article, but you don't hear a word about it. Guess it might cut into the pricey, revenue generating big bucks the pharmaceutical industry gets with the Bisphosphonates

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14529146

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/509074_4

http://www.lifeextension.com/magazine/2008/3/Protecting-Bone-And-Arterial-Health-With-Vitamin-K2/Page-01

http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00223-012-9571-z

http://smilinsuepubs.com/vitamin-k2-inhibits-deadly-breast-cancer-growth/

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2012/05/16/vitamins-d-and-k2-reduce-osteoporosis.aspx

http://jeffreydachmd.com/2014/10/vitamin-k/

Vitamin K2 is not the same as Vitamin K 1, which is involved in blood clotting. There are a number of studies out of Japan where it is used in combination with Vitamin D3 for prevention and treatment of osteoporosis/osteomalacia. The research is using MK 4 and MK 7 types of Vitamin K2. MK4 is found in animal products like Gouda, Edam and Brie Cheeses. MK 7 is found in Natto, a weird Japanese food made from fermented Soy beans.

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Sep 9, 2017 10:42PM macb04 wrote:

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Sep 11, 2017 08:09PM - edited Sep 11, 2017 08:10PM by 53nancy

Since my cancer diagnosis, I have upped my supplements by consulting with a Pharmacist I trust, i.e., Vitamin D3, calcium, magnesium, multi, probiotics and taking the highest amount available. Because I had an episode last year with iron deficient anemia, my doctor has triple my iron supplement. My oxygen, iron, kidney function, liver function have good values. I have switched to an alkaline diet - no carbs, no sugars, healthy fruits and vegetables, etc. Walking as much as possible, and have lost five pounds. Using essential oils on my feet. So far it's making feel better and more positive about handling this diagnosis.

Dx 8/2017, DCIS/IDC, Right, 1cm, Grade 3, ER-/PR-, HER2- (IHC)
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Sep 11, 2017 08:20PM zogo wrote:

That's great for taking control of diet and supplements, 53Nancy!

If you are taking calcium, it is good you are taking D3, but also ESSENTIAL you take K2. It will help the calcium deposit in your bones rather than your arteries.

~Jane~ "Most obstacles melt away when we make up our minds to walk boldly through them" ......"You'll never know how strong you are until being strong is your only option"
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Sep 11, 2017 08:48PM macb04 wrote:

That's so true, Vitamin K2 is essental for making sure the Calcium winds up in your bones, not your blood vessels. Calcium supplementation without Vitamin K2 causes increased risks of Coronary Artery Disease, the number #1 killer of women.


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Benefits of calcium supplements may be outweighed by cardiovascular risks
Date:
May 12, 2016
Source:
The Norwegian University of Science and Technology (NTNU)
Summary:
Taking calcium and vitamin D can help prevent broken bones in older women. However, this benefit may be cancelled out by an increased risk of heart attack and stroke, say researchers.
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Taking calcium and vitamin D can help prevent broken bones in older women. However, this benefit may be cancelled out by an increased risk of heart attack and stroke.

With the highest reported risk of hip fractures in the word, Norway has good reason to consider the benefits and risks of calcium supplements. The challenge is that too little calcium and vitamin D in your diet leads to an increased risk of osteoporosis and broken bones, which taking supplements has been shown to help prevent.

However, some studies have also shown that taking supplemental calcium may also increase your risk of heart attack and stroke.

"We conclude that the moderate effect of supplemental calcium and vitamin D on the risk of fractures is not large enough to outweigh the potential increased risk of cardiovascular disease, specifically in women who are at a low risk of bone fracture," said Gunhild Hagen, a PhD candidate at the Norwegian University of Science and Technology's (NTNU) Department of Public Heath and General Practice who was first author of an article recently published in Osteoporosis International.

Analytical model of health effects

Researchers at NTNU and the University of Oslo used an advanced analytical model to investigate the total health effect of taking a combined calcium and vitamin D supplement, compared to taking no supplements, based on a group of healthy women aged 65 with a BMI of 24 kg/m2.

"Our analysis shows that if 100,000 65-year-old women take 1000 mg calcium every day, 5890 hip fractures and 3820 other fractures would be prevented. On the other hand, as many as 5917 heart attacks and 4373 strokes could be caused. So for women of this age, the risks outweigh the benefits," the authors of the study wrote in an article in Aftenposten, one of Norway's national newspapers.

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