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Topic: VITAMIN K2 combined with Vitamin D3 IMPROVES bone density

Forum: Bone Health and Bone Loss — Talk with others about bone density, osteopenia and osteoporosis, and ways to keep your bones strong

Posted on: Dec 24, 2015 10:16PM - edited Dec 24, 2015 10:35PM by macb04

macb04 wrote:

Something I never see mentioned, which was never mentioned to me even when I saw an orthopedic specialist after breaking my foot, was that Vitamin K2 deficiency along with Vitamin D3 deficiency increases the risk of fractures.

Just look at the following research about it. Vitamin K2 works SYNERGISTICICALLY with Vitamin D3 to move Calcium out of blood vessels and soft tissue spaces into bones. Without enough Vitamin K2 it is very hard to get the Calcium into your bones. Not only that, but Vitamin K2 is important in lowering risks of Atherosclerosis and Coronary Heart Disease. This should be a major health article, but you don't hear a word about it. Guess it might cut into the pricey, revenue generating big bucks the pharmaceutical industry gets with the Bisphosphonates

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14529146

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/509074_4

http://www.lifeextension.com/magazine/2008/3/Protecting-Bone-And-Arterial-Health-With-Vitamin-K2/Page-01

http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00223-012-9571-z

http://smilinsuepubs.com/vitamin-k2-inhibits-deadly-breast-cancer-growth/

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2012/05/16/vitamins-d-and-k2-reduce-osteoporosis.aspx

http://jeffreydachmd.com/2014/10/vitamin-k/

Vitamin K2 is not the same as Vitamin K 1, which is involved in blood clotting. There are a number of studies out of Japan where it is used in combination with Vitamin D3 for prevention and treatment of osteoporosis/osteomalacia. The research is using MK 4 and MK 7 types of Vitamin K2. MK4 is found in animal products like Gouda, Edam and Brie Cheeses. MK 7 is found in Natto, a weird Japanese food made from fermented Soy beans.

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Feb 3, 2018 01:00AM macb04 wrote:

Do most of you get some Vitamin K2 daily, along with your Vitamin D3?

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Feb 3, 2018 10:22AM zogo wrote:

I take 90 mcg of K2-MK7 daily in with my evening supps.

~Jane~ "Most obstacles melt away when we make up our minds to walk boldly through them" ......"You'll never know how strong you are until being strong is your only option"
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Feb 3, 2018 01:16PM macb04 wrote:

Hey Zogo, great to hear you taking the Vitamin K2 every day like me. I hope more people will look at the research about this seldom mentioned essential nutrient.

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Feb 3, 2018 01:23PM stephilosphy00 wrote:

I take daily Vitamin K2 (MK4+MK7) along with Vitamin D3. I have been on Aromasin for over 6 months and never got bone pain.

Dx at 29. Original mass 2.5 cm. Biopsy MRI and PET/CT confirmed 1 node involved. Ki-67 score 7.5%. ER100% PR100%. Genetic testing negative. Restaged to stage IIA post surgery. Chose to do 6 cycles of Xeloda to prevent recurrence!! Dx 11/9/2016, DCIS/IDC, Left, 2cm, Stage IIB, Grade 3, 1/3 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Chemotherapy 11/18/2016 AC + T (Taxol) Surgery 5/10/2017 Lymph node removal: Sentinel; Mastectomy: Left Hormonal Therapy 5/21/2017 Tamoxifen pills (Nolvadex, Apo-Tamox, Tamofen, Tamone) Hormonal Therapy 7/11/2017 Aromasin (exemestane) Radiation Therapy 7/12/2017 Whole-breast: Breast, Lymph nodes, Chest wall Surgery 4/3/2018 Prophylactic mastectomy: Right; Reconstruction (left): DIEP flap; Reconstruction (right): DIEP flap Hormonal Therapy Zoladex (goserelin)
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Feb 3, 2018 08:36PM EastcoastTS wrote:

I take K2 along with my calcium. Also take Vit D3. Magnesium as well.

Dx@ 49. Oncotype: 14, BRCA 1/2- Dx 1/4/2017, ILC, Left, 1cm, Stage IA, Grade 1, 0/3 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Surgery 2/26/2017 Mastectomy: Left; Prophylactic mastectomy: Right; Reconstruction (left): Tissue expander placement; Reconstruction (right): Tissue expander placement Surgery 9/7/2017 Reconstruction (left): Silicone implant; Reconstruction (right): Silicone implant Hormonal Therapy Tamoxifen pills (Nolvadex, Apo-Tamox, Tamofen, Tamone)
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Feb 4, 2018 07:49AM grandma3X wrote:

k2 is hard to find in the store, but Walgreens will automatically ship it to me every 60 days. One less thing I have to remember. I also take D3 and a magnesium- calcium supplement. My VitD levels increased from 29 to 46 over 6 months. I'm trying to get it a bit higher

Oncotype score 10. Married 35 years, 2 kids, 3 grands. Marine biologist/biochemist. No BC in my family tree. First diagnosed with multi focal ILC with 2 small tumors seen on MRI. Final pathology showed 1 large tumor measuring 5 cm! Dx 1/13/2016, ILC, Left, 5cm, Stage IIA, Grade 2, 0/1 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Surgery 1/13/2016 Lymph node removal: Sentinel; Mastectomy: Left; Reconstruction (left): Tissue expander placement Surgery 5/17/2016 Prophylactic mastectomy: Right; Reconstruction (right): Tissue expander placement Surgery 10/25/2016 Reconstruction (left): Silicone implant; Reconstruction (right): Silicone implant Surgery 10/10/2017 Reconstruction (left): Fat grafting; Reconstruction (right): Fat grafting Surgery 10/10/2017 Prophylactic ovary removal Hormonal Therapy Femara (letrozole)
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Feb 4, 2018 11:26AM macb04 wrote:

That's great, your increased Vitamin D levels. Sounds like you are getting a nice balance. I am trying to achieve that same good balance, I know I feel best when I am in that sweet spot.

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Feb 4, 2018 03:34PM zogo wrote:

One thing I realized after taking a D3 from Costco for a couple years, was that you have to be aware of the oil it is made with. D3 is a fat soluble vitamin, and needs to be consumed with fat. After being shocked at the bad oils many were made with, I found one made with extra virgin olive oil. Much healthier option for me, as I take 10,000 iu/day.

~Jane~ "Most obstacles melt away when we make up our minds to walk boldly through them" ......"You'll never know how strong you are until being strong is your only option"
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Feb 4, 2018 04:57PM EastcoastTS wrote:

Pure is a very good brand for supplements but $$$.

Dx@ 49. Oncotype: 14, BRCA 1/2- Dx 1/4/2017, ILC, Left, 1cm, Stage IA, Grade 1, 0/3 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Surgery 2/26/2017 Mastectomy: Left; Prophylactic mastectomy: Right; Reconstruction (left): Tissue expander placement; Reconstruction (right): Tissue expander placement Surgery 9/7/2017 Reconstruction (left): Silicone implant; Reconstruction (right): Silicone implant Hormonal Therapy Tamoxifen pills (Nolvadex, Apo-Tamox, Tamofen, Tamone)
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Feb 4, 2018 05:37PM zogo wrote:

Pure Encapsulations IS a very good brand. I take their B Complex Plus.


~Jane~ "Most obstacles melt away when we make up our minds to walk boldly through them" ......"You'll never know how strong you are until being strong is your only option"
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Feb 10, 2018 12:10AM macb04 wrote:

I totally agree zogo, it is important to make sure there sre no gmo oils, or other toxic substances in any supplements you take. Seems counterproductive to try and improve your health with harmful oils created by the likes of Monsanto.

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Feb 11, 2018 09:13PM macb04 wrote:

Does everyone know about sufficient Vitamin D reducing susceptibility to Influenza and Virsl Illnesses like Colds? My ARNP friend mentioned it. Great study.


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Feb 11, 2018 09:13PM macb04 wrote:

Does everyone know about sufficient Vitamin D reducing susceptibility to Influenza and Virsl Illnesses like Colds? My ARNP friend mentioned it. Great study.


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Feb 11, 2018 09:34PM zogo wrote:


Good Article!

D3 should definitely be taken daily, rather than weekly.

~Jane~ "Most obstacles melt away when we make up our minds to walk boldly through them" ......"You'll never know how strong you are until being strong is your only option"
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Feb 27, 2018 04:56PM macb04 wrote:

Look at the Vitamin D article posted above about decreased susceptibility to FLU.

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Mar 9, 2018 10:48AM macb04 wrote:

bump

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Mar 28, 2018 08:20PM macb04 wrote:

This thread seems to have died, ......

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Mar 29, 2018 10:16AM Michelle49 wrote:

I'm waiting for my next bone density test (in the fall)to see if there has been any changes since taking Vit K-2. I did notice my teeth getting really smooth and shiny. I've read in the comment sections at amazon that this happens. I'm seeing MO next week and I'll find out what he thinks of what I'm doing. Last time I saw him, he recommended zometa.

Dx 9/11/2014, IDC, 1cm, Grade 2, 1/2 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Surgery 10/8/2014 Lumpectomy: Left; Lymph node removal: Left, Sentinel Chemotherapy 11/23/2014 Cytoxan (cyclophosphamide), Taxotere (docetaxel) Radiation Therapy Whole-breast: Breast Hormonal Therapy Femara (letrozole)
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Mar 30, 2018 01:51AM marijen wrote:

Hey, that’s nice to know Michelle. An added benefit, it helps the teeth. I’ve been taking K2 M-7 for at least two years now

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