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Posted on: Jun 5, 2013 10:01AM, edited Jun 5, 2013 10:02AM by CelineFlower

CelineFlower wrote:

I have read that like flaxseed oil , hemp oil should be avoided .



I am curious to know if smoking it could also increase estro levels...

I would love to read some studies on this subject but all i seem to find is opinion.

I have heard there are troubles of more than one kind. Some come from ahead and some come from behind. But I've bought a big bat. I'm all ready you see. Now my troubles are going to have troubles with me! ~Dr. Seuss Dx 8/31/2012, IDC, 3cm, Stage IIA, Grade 2, ER+/PR+, HER2- Dx 9/17/2012, LCIS
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Jun 5, 2013 02:12PM Mini1 wrote:

I would be interested in this as well. I was reading about raw cannibis (sp?) too. Proponants have it "curing" pretty much everything, but as you said, all I find is anecdotal writings on it.

"For I know the plans I have for you,” declares the Lord, “plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future." - Jeremiah 29:11 Surgery 4/15/2012 Lumpectomy: Right; Lymph node removal: Sentinel, Right Dx IDC, 1cm, Stage I, Grade 2, 0/2 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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Jun 6, 2013 11:29AM jojo68 wrote:

There is a great cannabis group on facebook with lots of info/testimonials

Bone marrow mets. Completed DIEP recon... ILC Stage 2B/3A Grade 2/ER+/PR+/HER- 7/29 nodes/3cm "You have brains in your head. You have feet in your shoes. You can steer yourself, any direction you choose."~The good Dr. Seuss
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Jun 6, 2013 11:30AM Lily55 wrote:

I read that hemp oil is good for us........!!

Dx 4/2012, ILC, 5cm, Stage IIIA, Grade 2, 7/14 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Surgery 5/2/2012 Mastectomy: Right; Lymph node removal: Underarm/Axillary, Right Radiation Therapy 8/14/2012 Breast, Lymph nodes Hormonal Therapy 7/19/2013 Aromasin (exemestane)
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Jun 6, 2013 03:19PM Mini1 wrote:

I just read that hemp oil should be avoided. Just once I wish something with this stupid disease would be straight up good or bad. I'm sick of ambiguity.

"For I know the plans I have for you,” declares the Lord, “plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future." - Jeremiah 29:11 Surgery 4/15/2012 Lumpectomy: Right; Lymph node removal: Sentinel, Right Dx IDC, 1cm, Stage I, Grade 2, 0/2 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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Jun 6, 2013 04:35PM GlobalGirlyGirl wrote:

So, the Rick Simpson Oil is supposed to bad? I was thinking of taking that (only at night). I don't know if I can go for the whole 60 grams in 90 days.  Now, it should be avoided?

I agree with Mini1 - it seems like every treatment is ambiguous. Even with conventional.

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Jun 26, 2013 07:02AM mummommama wrote:

I think the ambiguity is inherent in the alternative treatment world. There are no scientific studies (or few and poorly designed studies) on these substances. If there were science supporting any of these alternative treatments it would no longer be considered alternative treatment, but would become mainstream.

It is frustrating though. One thing I read said to avoid soy (ER+) but my docs say it's not necessary.

ugh. I'd like to learn of your own anecdotal experiences with alternative substances, though.

I use the information to help me decide what to use myself.

Mum

Dx 3/22/2013, DCIS, 6cm+, Stage I, Grade 3, 0/1 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Surgery 4/23/2013 Mastectomy: Right; Lymph node removal: Right; Reconstruction (left): Tissue expander placement; Reconstruction (right): Tissue expander placement Dx 5/10/2013, IDC, 1cm, Stage I, Grade 3, 0/1 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Surgery 6/6/2013 Mastectomy: Right Hormonal Therapy 6/14/2013 Radiation Therapy 8/14/2013 Breast
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Jun 26, 2013 07:43AM abigail48 wrote:

maryjane?  the flowering tops have got to be rich in estrogen.  soy?  I've been avoiding it though gary null says beans are fine for everyone, I do know don't juice fennell

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Jun 26, 2013 12:49PM , edited Jun 26, 2013 06:25PM by Mini1

I was told by both my doctor and my nutritionist that limited amounts of unadulterated soy is OK. The caveat is that most soy products in the USA are processed and all the things that are good about soy are lost and the parts that are not good for us stay in it. I was also told that Tempeh is ok if you're not allergic to mold, as is Miso, but in lesser amounts than is recommended for the average person. I'm allergic to mold so I just avoid it altogether.

I get that there is not a lot of testing on alternatives, but there is conflicting info within both camps. You'd think each side of the equation would at least agree with each other.

"For I know the plans I have for you,” declares the Lord, “plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future." - Jeremiah 29:11 Surgery 4/15/2012 Lumpectomy: Right; Lymph node removal: Sentinel, Right Dx IDC, 1cm, Stage I, Grade 2, 0/2 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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Jun 26, 2013 02:02PM momoschki wrote:

Both my integrative oncologist and the naturopathic doctor I consult with who specializes in BC say that moderate (up to 2 servings a day) amounts of soy are beneficial for ER+ women. Don't know about the marijuana, however...

ADH dx 3/11 Surgery 3/10/2011 Lumpectomy: Left
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Jun 29, 2013 03:21PM HLB wrote:

It seems like a lot of natural substances have phytoestrogens and that is where the ambiguity is. Proponents say the phytos are good and compete with the bad estrogen, others assume that any estrogen is automatically bad. I tend to generally think that chemical is bad and natural is good. For example the xenoestrogens that are in certain plastics are definitely bad. The holistic dr I saw told me he is not worried about the E that my body makes because the AI that I'm taking will take care of that, but he said the AI will NOT get rid of xenoestrogens. I found that interesting.

Dx 10/2004, IDC, 1cm, Stage IIA, Grade 2, 2/11 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Surgery 10/29/2004 Lumpectomy: Left; Lymph node removal: Sentinel, Left Surgery 11/29/2004 Mastectomy: Left, Right; Lymph node removal: Underarm/Axillary, Left; Prophylactic mastectomy: Right; Reconstruction (left): Tissue expander placement; Reconstruction (right): Tissue expander placement Chemotherapy 1/1/2005 AC + T (Taxol) Surgery 9/14/2005 Reconstruction (left); Reconstruction (right) Hormonal Therapy 7/22/2012 Femara (letrozole) Dx 7/23/2012, IDC, Stage IV
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Jun 30, 2013 01:24PM Mini1 wrote:

What if you're not taking an AI or Tamox? I would tend to agree with the assessment of natural over man-made. They used to say that sugar is sugar and there is no difference between how your body processes the sugar in an apple and high fructose corn syrup, which studies havenow proven to be untrue. The body recognizes the difference and it affects the brain differently, as well. I would think it would be the same type of thing.

"For I know the plans I have for you,” declares the Lord, “plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future." - Jeremiah 29:11 Surgery 4/15/2012 Lumpectomy: Right; Lymph node removal: Sentinel, Right Dx IDC, 1cm, Stage I, Grade 2, 0/2 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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Jul 10, 2013 01:31PM mummommama wrote:

Thanks for the feedback on the soy. I really like edamame. It's not processed, and it sounds like consensus is that there's no need to avoid it. Yay!

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Sep 30, 2013 09:09PM Hempangle wrote:

I'd say someone is trying to confuse you.Go back to where you didn't read it was bad for you and stick with it.