Topic: Alternative Treatment

Forum: Alternative Medicine — This forum is a safe, judgement-free place to discuss Alternative medicine. Alternative medicine refers to treatments that are used INSTEAD of standard, evidence-based treatment. Breastcancer.org does NOT recommend or endorse alternative medicine.

Posted on: Aug 8, 2011 09:32AM

Posted on: Aug 8, 2011 09:32AM

dougbrimor wrote:

Has anyone used alternative treatments such as Lorriane Day, Chris Beat Cancer, The Hallelujah Diet and skipped the cookie cutter 6 weeks of radiation and five years of Tamoifen?  I am so confused , even the 2011 cancer book that the radaition department gave me in my red folder states that radiation can cause a second cancer, that they are working on improving these satatics.  I read the whole book cover to cover and was just blown away by what they are admitting of these chemicals.  Anyway, would like to know if anyone else is swinging on this bridge?  Thanks

Dx 7/18/2011, <1cm, Stage I, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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Apr 19, 2012 11:53AM dunesleeper wrote:

You betcha Momine!

Dx 2/7/2012, IDC, 4cm, Stage IIB, Grade 3, 1/31 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Surgery 3/6/2012 Mastectomy: Right; Reconstruction (right): Tissue expander placement Surgery 9/3/2012 Reconstruction (right) Hormonal Therapy 8/19/2014 Arimidex (anastrozole) Dx 8/20/2014, IDC, Stage IV, Grade 3, mets, ER+/PR+, HER2- Dx 4/17/2015, IDC, Stage IV, Grade 3, ER+/PR+, HER2- Chemotherapy 5/3/2015 Taxol (paclitaxel) Chemotherapy 7/9/2015 Carboplatin (Paraplatin), Gemzar (gemcitabine) Radiation Therapy 8/31/2015 External: Bone Targeted Therapy 10/23/2015 Ibrance (palbociclib)
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Apr 20, 2012 10:40AM essiactea wrote:

I agreed with allison M as I has used alternative treatment like Essiac to support my immune system which is helpful instead of expensive medicines.

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Apr 20, 2012 02:20PM sweetbean wrote:

Essiactea,

Are you being (or have you been) treated for BC or are you just using Essaic tea for prevention?  There's a huge difference and you should definitely clarify on a breast cancer site.  

Dx 11/18/2010, ILC, 5cm, Stage IIIA, Grade 2, 2/15 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2+,
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Apr 20, 2012 02:24PM Kadia wrote:

Isn't essiac tea estrogenic? If so, not good for those of us who are ER+.

Multicentric/multifocal IDC & DCIS; Lumpectomy 12-11; UMX with immediate recon (TEs) 1-12; chemo began 2-12 (TCx4); Tamoxifen 5 years starting ?? Dx 10/2011, IDC, 2cm, Stage IIA, Grade 2, 0/3 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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Apr 20, 2012 04:34PM - edited Aug 10, 2012 04:31PM by del4

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Apr 20, 2012 04:59PM abigail48 wrote:

tripple ouch.  was it intravenous?  have to look again, but I don't do that either after 7 years of heroin, no thanks.  opiates by the way, the way most allopathy kill their patients, are regurgetants, that;s oksy, opens the bile ducts (& decalcifies the teeth), but it also constapates, & that as well as the lungs shutting down kills fast.

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Apr 20, 2012 05:12PM abigail48 wrote:

my advice get the realname if you can or the substances you take.  dca & waht does that mean also?

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Apr 20, 2012 06:16PM dunesleeper wrote:

Essiac tea is estrogenic. I returned what I had bought (unopened). The guy refunded my money but also enclosed a note saying "Whoever gave you this information was not correct. Women have been using Essiac for over 90 years with no side effecs as it is safe - natural - with no side effects and has been approved in writing by the FDA for over 11 years."  Printed on the paper is something from July 2001, saying "Phytoestrogens are estrogen-like chemicals found in plant foods such as beans, seeds, and grains. Foods made from soybeans have some of the highest levels of phytoestrogens and have been studied the most. In spite of initial optimism, it is not clear whether eating foods rich in phytoesgrogens decreases breast cancer risk."

Clearly, this man does not have ER+ breast cancer. LOL. I don't know if phytoestrogens are dangerous or not. However, my sense of the matter has me leaning AWAY from them for safety.

I think Essiac may be good for some cancers, but NOT breast cancer, particularly ER+.

Dx 2/7/2012, IDC, 4cm, Stage IIB, Grade 3, 1/31 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Surgery 3/6/2012 Mastectomy: Right; Reconstruction (right): Tissue expander placement Surgery 9/3/2012 Reconstruction (right) Hormonal Therapy 8/19/2014 Arimidex (anastrozole) Dx 8/20/2014, IDC, Stage IV, Grade 3, mets, ER+/PR+, HER2- Dx 4/17/2015, IDC, Stage IV, Grade 3, ER+/PR+, HER2- Chemotherapy 5/3/2015 Taxol (paclitaxel) Chemotherapy 7/9/2015 Carboplatin (Paraplatin), Gemzar (gemcitabine) Radiation Therapy 8/31/2015 External: Bone Targeted Therapy 10/23/2015 Ibrance (palbociclib)
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Apr 21, 2012 06:56PM abigail48 wrote:

& I'm wondering whether the men on that thread drink beer or use pot:  great estrogen both.  I had a lot of pain when I cooked up some red beans a few months ago, no beans or soy since

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May 3, 2012 12:27PM abigail48 wrote:

wow.  you pulled survivors who have used only alternatives????????wow wow wow.  are you trying to make it difficult to post here except on conventional threads where we'll be subject to real horror stories.

joy:  in a very recent time magazine report it's been discovered that people who get dintal exrays have a much greater incidence of USUALLY, unquote non -cancerous brain tumors.

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