Topic: Alternative Treatment

Forum: Alternative Medicine — This forum is a safe, judgement-free place to discuss Alternative medicine. Alternative medicine refers to treatments that are used INSTEAD of standard, evidence-based treatment. does NOT recommend or endorse alternative medicine.

Posted on: Aug 8, 2011 07:32AM

Posted on: Aug 8, 2011 07:32AM

dougbrimor wrote:

Has anyone used alternative treatments such as Lorriane Day, Chris Beat Cancer, The Hallelujah Diet and skipped the cookie cutter 6 weeks of radiation and five years of Tamoifen?  I am so confused , even the 2011 cancer book that the radaition department gave me in my red folder states that radiation can cause a second cancer, that they are working on improving these satatics.  I read the whole book cover to cover and was just blown away by what they are admitting of these chemicals.  Anyway, would like to know if anyone else is swinging on this bridge?  Thanks

Dx 7/18/2011, <1cm, Stage I, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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May 4, 2012 04:53AM - edited Aug 10, 2012 10:39AM by del4


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May 4, 2012 05:03AM SelenaWolf wrote:

I am still of the opinion that everything in moderation is not harmful be it soy products, sun, red meat, certain fats, natural supplements, or whatever.  Even some of the alcohol studies point out that the odd glass of wine here- and there (and by that I mean infrequent, maybe, a few times a year) won`t give you a raging recurrence.  Neither will a cookie every so often. It`s when we abuse- or overuse things that we get into trouble.

"... good girls never made history ..."
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May 4, 2012 05:09AM abigail48 wrote:

please please don't complain about tone of voice or rudeness, or we'll lose this thread too.  I do know that when I juiced a lot of fennel, very estrogenic as I learned later, that's when the cyst turned very bad, & when I ate a bunch of red beans, & way too uncooked I had a great deal of pain.

what then are xenoestrogens?  them "birth controll" pills or the mares can I please say piss?  I love anglosaxon words & dislike latin ones for body/parts/functions at least, don't mind them for herb nominaclature (?SP?) 

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May 4, 2012 05:48AM Kaara wrote:

I agree with abigail...keep the tone civil or this thread is going to be shut down as well.  We may now never know WOM's entire story.  

Have a nice day everyone. 

Kaara Dx 11/14/2011, IDC, <1cm, Stage I, Grade 1, 0/1 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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May 4, 2012 06:24AM abigail48 wrote:

that wasn't my point at all.  we're all stressed & tone of voice on a discussion board, in written language shouldn't be noticed for rudeness or whatever.  just for information.  please

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May 4, 2012 07:16AM PatMom wrote:

It is very difficult to express strong opinions on a board like this without offending someone because the vocal inflections and facial expressions that can soften difficult, and potentially offensive information are missing.  In face to face conversation, a quick smile can diffuse a tense situation and allow people to disagree without becoming disagreeable.

We are all dealing with breast cancer, but in reality, the individual specifics of each one's pathology may make choices that are helpful for one be damaging for another.

We all need to share respect and tolerance, it can't be one sided. 

If you believe that there is an offensive tone in someone's post, it might help to gently point out that their post might be misinterpreted in a PM.  The poster has a chance to edit their post, and there is not a public encouragement to "choose sides" when in reality, we are all on the same side against our common enemy, cancer. 

Until the time when someone comes up with a definitive "cure", we each have to cobble together what we believe will be the most effective treatment that we can live with, not merely survive.
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May 4, 2012 07:43AM abigail48 wrote:

very true, patmom, & for heavens sake don't "report" anyone for anything.  apparently that's how we lost the locked forum (& I hope it will be unlocked soon) It wasn't the moderator being mean, It was that she had to lock it because of "reports"

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May 4, 2012 09:20AM abigail48 wrote:

gary talking about testosterone says oat straw, & ginseng, & faor cancer o2, hyperbaric chamber, I've heard that that is clostophobic.....????

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May 4, 2012 04:31PM - edited May 4, 2012 04:56PM by sweetbean

Well, now I'm truly confused.  When I posted on the Colonics thread, I didn't say anything even remotely controversial.  All I did was agree with zuvart and express surprise at blackcat's post.    

It doesn't much matter, however - I think "organic soy in moderation" as Sunflowers said it, seems to be the way many integrative docs are going.  At least, that was the consensus of the ones that I talked to.  It's totally possible that other doctors are saying other things.    I actually don't even like tofu.  But I do like edamame and tempeh - delicious!  And I agree with SelenaWolf - I don't think any one thing in moderation is going to tip the scales.  It's more of an overall, comprehensive approach that seems to be effective.  

Dx 11/18/2010, ILC, 5cm, Stage IIIA, Grade 2, 2/15 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2+,
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May 4, 2012 04:48PM abigail48 wrote:

I miss beans & vegetables & brown rice, macrobiotic staple (I'm far from macrobiotic, but I have dpracticed it), & now no beans since when a year I guess.  theres a tiny bit of soy oil in my bee propolis lip balm, so I only seldom use it

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