Topic: Alternative Treatment

Forum: Alternative Medicine — This forum is a safe, judgement-free place to discuss Alternative medicine. Alternative medicine refers to treatments that are used INSTEAD of standard, evidence-based treatment. Breastcancer.org does NOT recommend or endorse alternative medicine.

Posted on: Aug 8, 2011 07:32AM

Posted on: Aug 8, 2011 07:32AM

dougbrimor wrote:

Has anyone used alternative treatments such as Lorriane Day, Chris Beat Cancer, The Hallelujah Diet and skipped the cookie cutter 6 weeks of radiation and five years of Tamoifen?  I am so confused , even the 2011 cancer book that the radaition department gave me in my red folder states that radiation can cause a second cancer, that they are working on improving these satatics.  I read the whole book cover to cover and was just blown away by what they are admitting of these chemicals.  Anyway, would like to know if anyone else is swinging on this bridge?  Thanks

Dx 7/18/2011, <1cm, Stage I, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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Feb 5, 2012 06:59AM apple wrote:

me thinks the alchemists are poking fun.. not too cool.  I wish i could make gold.

peace and love, apple - ..... Mary Magdalen Dx 4/10/2008, IDC, 5cm, Stage IV, Grade 3, 4/9 nodes, mets, ER+, HER2+
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Feb 5, 2012 08:33AM Kaara wrote:

Whatever they're smoking...I don't want any!

Kaara Dx 11/14/2011, IDC, <1cm, Stage I, Grade 1, 0/1 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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Feb 5, 2012 08:57PM MariaVan wrote:

Alchemy is definitely more than transforming things into gold. In the broadest sense it deals with transmutation of any elements and in some school of alchemy was also thought to relate to the spiritual transformation. Someone just sent me a link to an article in the UK Daily News reporting on a study done at the University of Leeds regarding the healing power of silver. The study showed that silver compounds are as effective at killing certain cancer cells as a leading chemotherapy drug, but with potentially far fewer side-effects. The healing power of metals, which is part of alchemy, has been known throughout the ages. I am not exactly sure how they used the silver in this study but maybe there's a "modern day alchemist" among us who knows more about silver and healing.

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Feb 6, 2012 05:37AM Heidihill wrote:

If someone were to discover a cure for cancer from any metal (including gold) that would be a gold mine. I think the principle for the silver treatment would be the same as platinum-based chemos, only cheaper. Cancer eventually finds a way around platinum chemos so it would be likely the same for silver (just guessing). But maybe silver atoms are smaller or there is something intrinsically different about silver that could give it an edge.

Dancing with Lt NED Dx 8/2007, IDC, Left, 2cm, Stage IV, metastasized to bone, Grade 2, 2/19 nodes, mets, ER+/PR+, HER2-,
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Feb 6, 2012 05:49AM sweetbean wrote:

something tells me that these alchemists aren't doing silver-based chemo.

Dx 11/18/2010, ILC, 5cm, Stage IIIA, Grade 2, 2/15 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2+,
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Feb 6, 2012 01:53PM rosemary-b wrote:

A few thoughts here...

First of all I would like to welcome all the brand new members who have an interest in alchemy. It's amazing they could find each other at a breast cancer website of all places.

Sunspark's story about the Roman emperor sounds like Rumpelstiltskin I wonder which one came first. 

I wonder if the alchemists are really working with metals like lead and mercury. Those are so toxic, anyone working with them should be very careful. For example both metals I mentioned can cause cognitive problems.

Dx 2/25/2007, IDC, Stage I, 0/2 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2+
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Feb 15, 2012 01:15PM - edited Feb 15, 2012 02:46PM by moderators

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Dx 10/10/2011, IDC, 3cm, Stage IIB, Grade 3, 2/21 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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Feb 15, 2012 04:36PM Kathy044 wrote:

Yes, as Heidihill mentioned, this would be a silver based cytotoxic chemo sweetbean.

http://www.chem.leeds.ac.uk/home/news.html

"Researchers at the Universities of Leeds and Bradford have found that particular silver compounds are as toxic to cancer cells as the platinum-based drug Cisplatin, which is widely used to treat a range of cancers"

My husband, who is stage IV with another cancer, had platinum therapy last year. It failed after five cycles. Interesting comment that this is a common way that cancers respond to this type of therapy Heidihill. Thanks. He next tried a numbered antibody drug (along with reg chemo) in a clinical trial. That one lasted much longer before failing. So what's the point? In his case with each treatment the pain and sickness associated with the cancer disappeared. S/Es aren't everything

Dx 2009, ILC, Right, 1cm, Stage IIA, Grade 2, 1/15 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Surgery 10/28/2009 Lumpectomy: Right; Lymph node removal: Right, Underarm/Axillary Chemotherapy 12/15/2009 Cytoxan (cyclophosphamide), Ellence (epirubicin), Fluorouracil (5-fluorouracil, 5-FU, Adrucil), Taxotere (docetaxel) Radiation Therapy 5/1/2010 Whole breast: Breast Hormonal Therapy 6/3/2010 Arimidex (anastrozole)
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Feb 20, 2012 07:04PM - edited Feb 20, 2012 08:18PM by Bluebird-DE

I love this site -  http://www.alternativehealth.co.nz/cancer/homeopathy.htm   Homeopathy is one of the most genuine alchemeic practices, imo.   Flower essences.  Have heard of mineral and metal alchemy, not studied it.

Edited to add sorry, daughter called and I posted too soon.  The homeopathy  'cure', maybe for some, but all are different.  I can say one thing, I am preferring living now to back then.  

I am also one who chooses to use 'alternative' therapies, synergistic choices.   I want to heal my cancer cells, not try to kill them and possibly me in process.  I do several protocols a day all designedfor my one personal protocol.  I transition to different compatible protocols throughout the month, then back again.

"Every mistake I have made has proven to be invaluable information for someone. Namely, me." Me. Diane Dx 7/15/2011, IDC, Right, 2cm, Stage IV, metastasized to liver/lungs/other, Grade 3, 3/11 nodes, mets, ER+/PR+, HER2- Chemotherapy 4/4/2017 Xeloda (capecitabine) Hormonal Therapy Femara (letrozole) Hormonal Therapy Faslodex (fulvestrant) Targeted Therapy Ibrance (palbociclib) Hormonal Therapy Arimidex (anastrozole) Surgery Lumpectomy: Right; Lymph node removal: Left Radiation Therapy External: Lymph nodes
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Feb 23, 2012 01:57PM abigail48 wrote:

possibly colloidal silver in a spray??  I notice that gary null promoting curcumin, found a study that it helped prostate a great deal, but doesn't meantion breast.  I note that it's estrogenic.......& am wondering why those pharms which prevent blood vessel formation arn't or are no longer used for breast.

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