Topic: Has anyone tried "BreastDefend"?

May 13, 2012 04:05AM Chickadee wrote:

So they tested this only on mice? Are there published human trials? Independent verification of the results?

May 13, 2012 07:54AM Chickadee wrote:

There is an Alternative treatment forum. You may wish to share this with the ladies who post there.

May 14, 2012 03:06AM K-Lo wrote:

 I agree with Chick.  The IU people only speak to early experiments with mice.  No data on humans.   The leap to someone selling and women using now is definitely in the alternative medicine world.

May 14, 2012 06:09AM sweetbean wrote:

Interesting - thanks for posting this.  I'm going to check it out - I'm all about streamlining my supplements!

May 17, 2012 05:35PM elaineweil wrote:

Hello to all,

I am a nurse practitioner who works with cancer  patients and am also a patient myself, diagnosed with breast cancer early last year. I have been using a number of Dr. Eliaz's products for a number of years with patients, and also take them myself. His company, Econugenics, is one of the few companies that does extensive research on their products. Product research is a priority for him which is admirable, given the expense involved. It is surely helping to move the entire industry toward more research based recommendations. Studies usually progress from cell studies to animal studies and eventually to humans...which is the most difficult because it is very hard to ask people to just take one thing when they have cancer....this would not be acceptable...so there are lots of inherent difficulties and challenges in studying people....The mouse study on Breast Defend actually injected cancer cells into the mouse paw, which is a better simulation of possible human condition and increases the relevance of the study...in addition , cell line studies showed Breast Defend to be highly effective in killing aggressive types of breast cancer cells, even at low dosages--another very promising finding. Also the ingredients themselves have been studied independently and we know they have anticancer properties accomplished by numerous mechanisms. A synergistic blend of ingredients such as those formulated in Breast Defend, hits the cancer cells from a number of different angles which is so important because cancer cells are smart and adapt quickly to any particular attempt to block only one growth factor, etc......The way I see it is that in the field of integrative medicine, you have to look at the larger picture of the formulator, the company itself and their integrity and trustworthiness in terms of how they conduct themselves. Dr. Eliaz's company is shock full of research studies on many of their products, so I feel very confident about both using and recommending his products. Check out Pectasol-C, Honopure and Mycophyto...all products I use extensively where I work, and take myself. I hope this is helpful....a good website to take a look at is the following:

 www.dreliaz.org/recommended-product/for-breast-cancer

best to all, 

Elaina

Jan 23, 2013 04:57AM IAmEnough wrote:

I'm curious about this as well mary625. Hopefully we'll see more response here.

Apr 1, 2013 07:15AM Renya wrote:

So sorry to hear of your mom's dx,  don't despair,  I was dx'd at Stage 4, now going into 4th year, all tumor markers normal after a "high as the sky" readings...I reduced those with natural....DIM is excellent, add Curcumin/Tumeric, Fucoidan, Maitake/REishi/Shitake Mushroom, B-17/Amigdalin, BetaD Glucan.    I assume your mom was Dx'd w/DCIS - best to do a specific dx search for best nutrients.   I was told I would be gone in Nov/2011, then changed to March, 2012, here it is April, 2013, I am thriving, TM's normal, all bloodwork, stats perfect.  Last Scans showed reduced invasion in ribs/pelvis and spine spot shrinking a bit.  Due another scan in July.   I went on CesiumChloride, will not know if it cleaned out the remaining invasion until scans.  I opted for LaserBreastSurgery, no pain, no cutting, i've had NO chemo or radiation.  Get on a healthy diet, ck out the nutrients that actually "eat" cancer, avoid sugars, dairy, glutemates, go for whole foods,you will see a big improvement.  Best to you & your mom.

Apr 28, 2013 07:10AM lightandwind wrote:

Renya, I private messaged you.

Nov 15, 2015 10:00AM solfeo wrote:

Maybe this should go on the Complimentary and Holistic board, but since it follows up on what was said before I'm posting it here. I'll post something over there also.

I take a lot of supplements and I'm starting tamoxifen tomorrow. After doing a lot of reading on the subject, I share elaineweil's concern above that many supplements have the potential to interact unfavorably with tam, by either reducing the effectiveness or increasing toxicity of tam. If I'm going to take it and subject my body to the adverse effects, I don't want to be taking anything else that prevents it from working. But I also don't want to give up all supplement use, when many are purported to attack the cancer in a different way from tamoxifen, and could possibly provide some added benefit. Tamoxifen isn't always that effective on its own, depending on heaven knows how many factors unique to any individual's constitution and cancer . It's a real dilemma for someone like me who would prefer to skip the tam all together, but I'm just a little too afraid to trust alternatives alone.

My philosophy regarding supplement use, since there is often not a lot of scientific proof of efficacy in humans, has always been to lean towards those substances that might help and most likely can't hurt, with at least some science behind them. That's all well and good when you're taking supplements only, but when you add in a drug like tamoxifen that is easily affected by other drugs and supplements that are metabolized in similar ways, it's a whole different ballgame. I'm not happy about it but I've already had to eliminate the possibility of more than one supplement due to probable interactions with tam.

elaineweill mentions a study that was underway to test how BreastDefend interacts with Tamoxifen. It has finally been completed and the outcome looks good in mice. The results were presented at the American Association for Cancer Research Annual Meeting in the spring of 2015, but as far as I can tell it hasn't been published in a peer reviewed journal yet. Anyway, here it is:

I'm leaning towards taking it, but still have quite a bit of research and thinking to do.