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Posted on: Dec 11, 2015 11:51PM

Breezy95 wrote:

I read about cannabis oil killing cancer cells. Is this true? Has anybody used this before

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Dec 12, 2015 11:50AM Momine wrote:

Breezy, how do you mean "true" in this context? Some people really believe that it kills cancer. A few studies suggest (like this one, for example: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S209050681400027X ) that components of cannabis may have some action against cancer. But so far, there is no definitive, concrete, scientific evidence that cannabis oil will kill or cure cancer. However, cannabis as oil or smoked, vaped or eaten, can be extremely helpful for cancer patients in many ways. It can help with pain, lack of appetite, anxiety and insomnia.

Dx 6/1/2011, ILC, 5cm, Stage IIIB, Grade 2, 7/23 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Chemotherapy 6/20/2011 Cytoxan (cyclophosphamide), Ellence (epirubicin), Fluorouracil (5-fluorouracil, 5-FU, Adrucil), Taxotere (docetaxel) Surgery 9/13/2011 Mastectomy: Left, Right Radiation Therapy 1/9/2012 Surgery 3/8/2012 Prophylactic ovary removal Hormonal Therapy 4/1/2012 Femara (letrozole)
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Dec 12, 2015 11:59AM Breezy95 wrote:

Thank you. I guess I was wondering if anyone here had personal experience with the oil or personallyknew someone who benefitted from it.

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Dec 12, 2015 12:43PM leggo wrote:

Hi Breezy. There are several women on here who are using/have used the oil. Unfortunately, I don't have the where-with-all to dig up the links today. Please do a search with the terms below and it'll bring up a bunch of posts from various members and their experiences.

RSO, Rick Simpson, Phoenix Tears, CBD oil and like you mentioned in your post, Cannabis oil. There are many knowledgeable women on the subject. If you don't get replies to your questions, please pm them. They've always been happy to help.

Best wishes to you.

"Once more into the fray... Into the last good fight I'll ever know... Live and die on this day... Live and die on this day." - The Grey
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Dec 12, 2015 01:24PM owlwatcher wrote:

My friend used it to help him with his last days. I know his family was looking for the cancerkilling properties.

Surgery 4/6/2011 Mastectomy: Left, Right; Reconstruction (left): Silicone implant, Tissue expander placement; Reconstruction (right): Silicone implant, Tissue expander placement
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Dec 12, 2015 01:33PM Momine wrote:

Breezy, no, I have not used it myself. I do know some people who have tried it, but not anyone who had any definite results from it, other than the ones I mentioned, i.e. pain and nausea relief, better eating and sleeping. I do know several people who swear by it for pain relief and say that it is more effective and less debilitating than hardcore pain meds. This makes sense to me. Also, if someone has an advanced cancer and the cannabis helps the patient be more comfortable, eat better and have less pain, then it would not seem crazy to assume that this might help extend life, even if the cannabis oil does not have a direct or significant effect on the cancer itself.

Dx 6/1/2011, ILC, 5cm, Stage IIIB, Grade 2, 7/23 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Chemotherapy 6/20/2011 Cytoxan (cyclophosphamide), Ellence (epirubicin), Fluorouracil (5-fluorouracil, 5-FU, Adrucil), Taxotere (docetaxel) Surgery 9/13/2011 Mastectomy: Left, Right Radiation Therapy 1/9/2012 Surgery 3/8/2012 Prophylactic ovary removal Hormonal Therapy 4/1/2012 Femara (letrozole)
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Dec 12, 2015 01:45PM Breezy95 wrote:

Ok thanks ladies

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Dec 12, 2015 01:49PM abigail48 wrote:

it dries some too. I use organic hemp seed oil from canada. pretty cheap, a drop at a time on occasion

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Jan 21, 2016 08:12PM Leslie13 wrote:

After seeing some discussion here, I decided to check research. Marijuana is now legal in my state (Oregon). I was concerned about it stimulating Estrogen positive cancer, but I read if you use CBD oil and make sure there's very little THC, you can benefit from the pain and cancer killing properties. I have no plans to do chemo or radiation, so if it helps I'm open to trying it.

Dx 4/17/2015, ILC, Both breasts, 3cm, Stage IIIA, Grade 2, 4/22 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Surgery 9/29/2015 Lymph node removal: Right; Mastectomy: Left, Right; Reconstruction (left): Silicone implant; Reconstruction (right): Silicone implant Hormonal Therapy Femara (letrozole)
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Feb 3, 2016 08:12PM abigail48 wrote:

hemp is canabol? without the high, I smoked the stuff for 45 years, & I think it must be very estrogenic, the seeds perhaps the opposite. it's called mary jane for a reason I use a drop now and them mostly for it's dryingproperty

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Feb 29, 2016 10:46PM Hope4115 wrote:

I take Rick Simpson Oil and it helps


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Feb 29, 2016 10:51PM ChiSandy wrote:

Sorry to burst your bubble, but "testimonials" and videos prove nothing. Scholarly journals and studies by respected institutions such as university medical schools, ASCO and the Nat'l Cancer Institute are what I put my credence in.

Diagnosed at 64 on routine annual mammo, no lump. OncotypeDX 16. I cried because I had no shoes...but then again, I won’t get blisters.... Dx 9/9/2015, IDC, Right, 1cm, Stage IA, Grade 2, 0/4 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- (IHC) Surgery 9/23/2015 Lumpectomy: Right Radiation Therapy 11/2/2015 3DCRT: Breast Hormonal Therapy 12/31/2015 Femara (letrozole)
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Mar 1, 2016 01:59AM abigail48 wrote:

I put my faith in first hand accounts. "testamonials" if y ou will. forinstance the posts on this site

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Mar 2, 2016 12:23AM Momine wrote:

Sujam, and the government is suppressing the cancer cure because governments are evil?

Dx 6/1/2011, ILC, 5cm, Stage IIIB, Grade 2, 7/23 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Chemotherapy 6/20/2011 Cytoxan (cyclophosphamide), Ellence (epirubicin), Fluorouracil (5-fluorouracil, 5-FU, Adrucil), Taxotere (docetaxel) Surgery 9/13/2011 Mastectomy: Left, Right Radiation Therapy 1/9/2012 Surgery 3/8/2012 Prophylactic ovary removal Hormonal Therapy 4/1/2012 Femara (letrozole)
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Mar 19, 2016 08:02PM ClarkBlue wrote:

http://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/treatment/cam/p...

Point #6 on this government site states that cannibanoids have proven to kill cancer cells while keeping healthy cells healthy in laboratory rats. This is encouraging and the reason I am looking into this further.

Dx 2/25/2016, IDC, Both breasts, <1cm, Stage IIA, Grade 3, 1/1 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Surgery 4/14/2016 Mastectomy; Reconstruction (left): Tissue expander placement; Reconstruction (right): Tissue expander placement Chemotherapy 5/18/2016 Cytoxan (cyclophosphamide), Taxotere (docetaxel) Surgery 8/22/2016 Reconstruction (left): Saline implant; Reconstruction (right): Saline implant Radiation Therapy 9/25/2016 Whole-breast: Breast, Lymph nodes, Chest wall Hormonal Therapy 11/3/2017 Arimidex (anastrozole), Zoladex (goserelin)
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Mar 22, 2016 09:06PM MarciaM wrote:

Hello all dear ladies;

The reason the universities won't study Medical Marijuana is that they made it illegal. the other reason is that cancer is a gazillion dollar business. They have absolutely nothing to gain from us --the suffering they have caused due to their awful treatments as well. Now I took a the treatments, and still take the estrogen blocker, arimidex. I just got my medical MJ card for my state. I began to use small bits of CBD and THC. The THC in Rick Simpson oil is the thing that in large quantities has resolved cancer, according to You Tube. I use the vegan diet and juicing plus the supplement turmeric. I have had no recurrence of cancer in over 4 years-I had a large brain tumor resolved by surgery ad small rads! That says something. Why dont they study this Cannabis oil- its simple math - no profit and there for no real proof either.

Frankly I doubt anyone really knows if it will work but if your dying what have you to loose? . the one concern I have is that Cannabadiol, s similar sounding to Estradiol, the thing that often causes breast cancer for us. while I have both the CBD oil- causes no high and very promising in studies with rats- we dont know for sure that it is or isn't estrogen. So .. I m going easy on all of this because I want pain relief from bot h arms and hands which are permanently damaged from a brain tumor - breast cancer - and lymph-ededma. If they could just be allowed to study it in clinical trials.. but Big Pharma has prevented that.

Eventually they will make it legal and studies will be done. Unfortunately it has been done at Harvard that study too shut down. .The more you study the issue the more suspect i am of conventional therapies. Lets get rid of the restrictions so it can be studied!

I wish you all the best in your personal trials.

Marcia


Marcia M Hormonal Therapy 5/20/2010 Arimidex (anastrozole) Dx 10/26/2010, IDC, 4cm, Stage IIIA, Grade 3, 7/14 nodes, ER+/PR- Dx 10/27/2010, IDC, 5cm, Stage IV, Grade 3, ER+/PR-, HER2- Surgery 11/4/2010 Lymph node removal: Left, Sentinel, Underarm/Axillary; Mastectomy: Left Chemotherapy 1/3/2011 Carboplatin (Paraplatin), Taxotere (docetaxel) Radiation Therapy 5/15/2011 Breast, Lymph nodes
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Mar 14, 2019 12:22AM arethamorce wrote:

Cannabis has now "evolved its own language, humor, etiquette, art, literature, and music. Perhaps because of its ancient mystical and spiritual roots, because of the psychotherapeutic effects of the drug and because it is illegal, even the very act of smoking a joint has deep symbolism. However, the culture of cannabis as "the manifestation of introspection and bodily passivity" — which has generated a negative "slacker" stereotype around its consumers. But nowadays is a relatively modern concept, as cannabis has been consumed in various forms for almost 5,000 years

Alternative medicine is more accepted nowadays due to its promising results unlike pharmaceutical medicine, alternative medicine doesn't give a negative effect such as kidney and liver problems when it comes to long term use. As for my alternative medicine usage, I use medical marijuana. The different strain has a variety of uses and effects depending on your needs. Like this marijuana strain blimburnseeds.com/critical-plus. This strain has a very potent effect on chronic pains like back pain and joint pain and a lot more. The benefits of marijuana, specifically the CBD cannabinoid, are undeniable. Let's take a look at all of the ways CBD is helping patients every day.

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Jun 20, 2019 06:21AM NewmanMathis wrote:

The practice of using herbal supplements dates back thousands of years. Today, the use of herbal supplements is common among consumers. It is best to consult your doctor about any symptoms or conditions you have and to discuss the use of herbal supplements.

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Sep 19, 2019 05:46PM Triked wrote:

I am currently doing the maintenance protocol for my HER2 BC I had already had a Mastectomy & Chemo when I heard about RSO I started taking the maintenance dosage in June I will update next week after I see my oncologist

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Jan 20, 2020 05:41PM dajoway wrote:

Hello, I would like to know if anyone has experience with CBD oil for treating neuropathy and/or joint pain. I was triple positive and had a lumpectomy on July 25, 2019. Chemo was 12 weeks of Taxol, accompanied by Herceptin every 3 weeks and continuing until Aug. 2020. Numbness and tingling in my fingers and feet started about 4 weeks into treatment, and it has NOT gotten any better since.

I tried the Glutamine powder, but it made me nauseous, so I stopped it. (had enough of that already!) My MO wants to put me on Gabapentin, which is a pain reliever, but I really have no pain. Just the extreme numbness/tingling which is debilitating and greatly affects my daily life.

I have heard that a drop of CBD oil under the tongue can be very calming, so I'm wondering if it would help. Thanks for any ideas or thoughts you may have!

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Mar 15, 2020 10:48AM - edited Mar 22, 2020 08:42AM by TheShadow

Is cannabis oil effective at increasing appetite and alleviating pain in cancer patients? Yes.

But will it actually cause cancer to regress? No.

In fact the different elements are supposed to be better suited to different cancers, for instance CBD is thought to be more beneficial for breast cancer. Obviously there is no real evidence to go on but personally I'm a believer and feel that the oils have helped me cope with chemo if nothing else.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6387667/

It is true there are stories out there about cannabis curing cancer but there is a world of difference between cannabis killing a few cancer cells in a glass dish in a lab to having a proven drug derived from it, that has been designed through trials and is safe to be used internally.

A 2018 review published in Cancer Medicine, a Wiley journal, emphasized that a range of studies on CBD has demonstrated its anti-cancer applications. CBD has been shown to reduce the viability of cancer cells in neuroblastoma, glioblastoma, melanoma, leukemia, colon, breast, lung, and prostate cancer in animal and in vitro models. The authors of the review proposed that CBD may induce cell death (apoptosis) in cancer cells via indirect activation of the CB2 receptor.

Several studies have investigated the therapeutic potential of CBD for the treatment of breast cancer. One 2006 study published in the Journal of Pharmacology and Experimental Therapeutics found that CBD was one of the most potent inhibitors of breast tumor cell growth in a panel of five cannabinoids tested on rats and mice.

These are just a few studies addressing the potential of cannabinoids to help treat cancer. Still, it's far too soon to say that CBD is a safe and effective treatment for cancer in humans. CBD shouldn't be considered a substitute for other cancer treatment.

In short, cannabis oil can be an amazing supplement to help cancer patients, but it is NOT a treatment or cure.

I'm a big fan of Full Spectrum CBD Oil. All full-spectrum CBD products contain less than 0.3% THC.

Full-spectrum CBD products contain a full range of cannabinoids. When the cannabinoids are extracted from hemp, the entire extract is made into a consumable product, meaning that you are getting a healthy dose of all the cannabinoids that were in the plant.

It used to be believed that isolated CBD was more effective than full-spectrum, but now the opposite is the case; most now agree that full-spectrum CBD is the preferred option because of something called the "entourage effect". This phenomenon refers to the way in which cannabinoids work together to become more effective. A study in 2005, conducted in Jerusalem, found that test subjects given full-spectrum CBD experienced heightened relief compared to those who received a CBD isolate. Generally, users prefer to use a full-spectrum CBD in order to improve their general well-being.This does not make CBD isolates redundant, though.


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