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Posted on: Jun 1, 2016 01:26AM - edited Jun 1, 2016 08:12AM by LM070917

LM070917 wrote:

hey everyone,

Has anyone tried black salve as an alternative remedy? It's not available in Australia,but I met a lady who has tried it. I then went online and saw that it can cause a lot of damage. Is this just hocus pocus voodoo stuff or is there credibility?

Dx 9/18/2015, IDC, Right, 6cm+, Stage IIIA, Grade 3, 2/14 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Chemotherapy 11/1/2015 AC + T (Taxol) Surgery Lymph node removal: Right, Underarm/Axillary; Mastectomy: Right Radiation Therapy Lymph nodes, Chest wall Hormonal Therapy Arimidex (anastrozole), Zoladex (goserelin)
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Jun 1, 2016 02:54AM ChiSandy wrote:

BAAAAD stuff! It’s an “escharotic:” as in, literally cooks the skin and leaves a black “eschar” similar to a third degree burn scar. It is considered by the FDA (which is not exactly strict when it comes to regulating non-pharma supplements) to be a “fake cancer cure." Many people who thought it cured their cancers by drawing the tumors out of the skin were later found not to have had cancers at all--but were left with permanent suppurating ulcers. (I think of that poor BCO’er on one of these threads who has been trying to self-treat an “ulcerated breast tumor,” for literally decades. It’s not an ulcerated tumor, it’s an ULCER. If it were a malignant tumor that she’d tried to “cure” with strictly “natural” remedies, she’d have been dead by now. Not sure what she’d been using on it, but whatever she uses is definitely inhibiting healing--it bleeds, weeps and suppurates).

Look, I get it. You don’t want to ruin your QOL with anti-estrogen drugs, radiation, biologic targeted treatments and cytotoxic chemo. But believe me, you will ruin your life with this poisonous salve. What I don’t get is the “all Western medicine and Big Pharma is evil and moneygrubbing” mindset. Yes, Western medicine carries a price tag. People have a right to be paid for the time, money and talent they invested in developing successful treatments. just as doctors deserve to be paid commensurate to the time end expense they incurred developing their expertise. Just remember that none of the “ancient” stuff has any degree of uniformity or quality control for safety and effectiveness. I guess there are some people who prefer to live every aspect of their lives off the figurative and literal grid. In which case, why are they online?

But, you may say, it’s “natural?” So are cyanide, arsenic, nightshade, curare, jimson weed, oleander and castor beans.

Diagnosed at 64 on routine annual mammo, no lump. OncotypeDX 16. I cried because I had no shoes...but then again, I won’t get blisters.... Dx 9/9/2015, IDC, Right, 1cm, Stage IA, Grade 2, 0/4 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- (IHC) Surgery 9/23/2015 Lumpectomy: Right Radiation Therapy 11/2/2015 3DCRT: Breast Hormonal Therapy 12/31/2015 Femara (letrozole)
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Jun 1, 2016 04:01AM LM070917 wrote:

Thanks Chisandy, yeah It sounds like horrible stuff and a path I definitely wouldn't want to go down. The woman I spoke to was against conventional medicine (she hadn't done chemo or rads) so it's interesting that you should say that. I guess people are looking alternatives but as you say it's not always the right one.

Dx 9/18/2015, IDC, Right, 6cm+, Stage IIIA, Grade 3, 2/14 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Chemotherapy 11/1/2015 AC + T (Taxol) Surgery Lymph node removal: Right, Underarm/Axillary; Mastectomy: Right Radiation Therapy Lymph nodes, Chest wall Hormonal Therapy Arimidex (anastrozole), Zoladex (goserelin)
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Jun 1, 2016 06:55AM cp418 wrote:

Exactly what ChiSandy said. There are some older posts here about this topic if I recall someone with advanced stage tried it. The outcome was not good.

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Jun 1, 2016 01:33PM abigail48 wrote:

a hot climate

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Jun 1, 2016 02:08PM Momine wrote:

"Hocus pocus voodoo stuff" describes it quite perfectly, I think.

Dx 6/1/2011, ILC, 5cm, Stage IIIB, Grade 2, 7/23 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Chemotherapy 6/20/2011 Cytoxan (cyclophosphamide), Ellence (epirubicin), Fluorouracil (5-fluorouracil, 5-FU, Adrucil), Taxotere (docetaxel) Surgery 9/13/2011 Mastectomy: Left, Right Radiation Therapy 1/9/2012 Surgery 3/8/2012 Prophylactic ovary removal Hormonal Therapy 4/1/2012 Femara (letrozole)
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Jun 1, 2016 03:44PM exbrnxgrl wrote:

Our member who tried black salve did not live in a country without good care. She lived in Singapore, a modern, well educated country. When she was first dx'ed, she made a conscious decision to forgo all conventional tx. She did well for several years and then her IBC roared back with a vengeance. By the time she sought conventional care, doctors had little to offer. Surgery was impossible at that point, which is why she turned to black salve. She did do some chemo, but it was far too late and made her quite ill. I was in touch with her from time to time up until a few weeks before her passing.

Bilateral mx 9/7/11 with one step ns reconstruction. As of 11/21/11, 2cm met to upper left femur Dx 7/8/2011, IDC, Left, 4cm, Grade 1, 1/15 nodes, mets, ER+/PR+, HER2- Surgery 9/7/2011 Lymph node removal: Left; Mastectomy: Left, Right; Reconstruction (left); Reconstruction (right) Dx 11/2011, IDC, Left, 4cm, Stage IV, Grade 1, 1/15 nodes, mets, ER+/PR+, HER2- Hormonal Therapy 11/21/2011 Arimidex (anastrozole) Radiation Therapy 11/21/2011 Bone Hormonal Therapy 6/19/2014 Femara (letrozole) Hormonal Therapy Aromasin (exemestane)
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Jun 19, 2016 11:40PM - edited Jun 19, 2016 11:43PM by edzedz

The other issues with the salve is that its apparently very, very painful to use. Also there have been reports of some places selling fake stuff. Even going so far as to using battery acid in the salve to make it seem like the real thing. We have studied it. Considered it, and rejected it. There are a lot more bad stories than good stories about it once you look past the places who are selling it.


If you have a non aggressive form of cancer then look into the budwig protocol. I think it does in fact show some promise.


If you are going down the chemo way and its not your first time then natures sunshine Paw Paw looked good as well.


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Jun 21, 2016 05:30AM abigail48 wrote:

blood root is also an endangered plant.  it grows here, I know where there's a plant a few 10s of yards away.  nottempted.  chilipaddi was killed from using it.  no details given.  perhaps useful for very small melanomas, anything else I'd pass

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Jun 21, 2016 09:23AM - edited Jun 21, 2016 09:24AM by ksusan

I agree, abigail. I just read chillipaddi's whole thread and whether or not black salve or cancer killed her, the salve was certainly very painful.

Mutant uprising quashed. Dx 1/2015, IDC, Right, Stage IIA, 1/1 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Dx 1/2015, DCIS, Left, Stage 0, Grade 3, 0/2 nodes Hormonal Therapy Tamoxifen pills (Nolvadex, Apo-Tamox, Tamofen, Tamone) Surgery Lymph node removal: Sentinel; Mastectomy: Left, Right Radiation Therapy Whole-breast Chemotherapy Cytoxan (cyclophosphamide), Taxotere (docetaxel)
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Jul 21, 2018 11:40PM keri3369 wrote:

I was diagnosed with invasive lobular breast cancer in my left breast in April 2017. 24 hours after my biopsy I took the strips off and put black salve from AlphaOmegaLabs directly into the biopsy insision. I had 4 tumors, 9 months of salving they can no longer be seen by ultrasound. I took sugar out of my diet, red meat, ate mainly fruits and veggies. It is not pain free but I felt good, kept my breast, my immune system and my money.

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