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Posted on: Sep 27, 2018 04:08AM - edited Sep 27, 2018 06:11AM by concernedfriend77

concernedfriend77 wrote:

Hi I have used Aspirin for decades for cardeo protection but recent studies have found it's benefits for anti cancer here's one finding "Our work suggests that the anti-cancer action of aspirin might be in part as follows: during their transit in the blood, circulating tumor cells interact with platelets, which spur tumor cell survival by activating oncoproteins such as c-MYC. The inhibition of platelets with aspirin therapy reduces this signaling between platelets and tumor cells, thus indirectly reducing tumor cell growth." is anybody using this as part of there natural therapy.. who refuses chemo

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Sep 27, 2018 04:48AM - edited Sep 27, 2018 04:54AM by obsolete

Hi cf77, a warm welcome! Very interesting find. I've been on a daily baby aspirin protocol recommended by my doctor to reduce blood clots. (Tamoxifen pill had contributed to blood clots in legs & lungs when I was in an auto accident.) My doctor & naturopath both support daily baby aspirin. 4-5 years later, so far, so good. Best wishes to you.

*Edited to add that my low OncotypeDX score did not warrant chemo for slow-growing cancers

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Sep 27, 2018 07:34AM - edited Sep 27, 2018 07:34AM by Moderators

concernedfriend77, welcome! Thought you might be interested in the following article from the Breastcancer.org main site:


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Sep 27, 2018 09:40AM concernedfriend77 wrote:

Thanks for your response but interested to hear from people who may be using it for Breast cancer etc for it's anti cancer properties.

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Sep 27, 2018 09:48AM concernedfriend77 wrote:

Thanks this points to a positive response to aspirin and breast cancer, is there anybody taking this at the moment for the benefits.. I have suggested this to my friend and after she consults her doctor but would like to hear from anybody who has incorporated this into there cancer fighting plan.. My friend has rejected taking chemo

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Sep 27, 2018 10:01AM KCMC wrote:

I started taking a baby aspirin a day because it was suggested by my Oncologist for two reasons: Tamoxifen and blood clots and it is a weak aromatase inhibitor. I would imagine if you decide against an AI you might want to think about taking a baby aspirin a day.

Dx 3/13/2017, DCIS/IDC, Left, 4cm, Stage IIA, Grade 2, 0/2 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2+ (FISH)
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Sep 27, 2018 06:29PM ChiSandy wrote:

Took baby aspirin daily for nearly 10 years before getting my ER+/PR+/HER2- dx. Obviously, it didn't prevent my cancer.

Diagnosed at 64 on routine annual mammo, no lump. OncotypeDX 16. I cried because I had no shoes...but then again, I won’t get blisters.... Dx 9/9/2015, IDC, Right, 1cm, Stage IA, Grade 2, 0/4 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- (IHC) Surgery 9/23/2015 Lumpectomy: Right Radiation Therapy 11/2/2015 3DCRT: Breast Hormonal Therapy 12/31/2015 Femara (letrozole)
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Sep 27, 2018 07:49PM Sara536 wrote:

Utterly useless article. What doctor in their right mind is going to prescribe low-dose aspirin for cancer prevention based on a study like this? They might tell you that it wouldn't hurt if you ask. Still, being impressionable, I will continue to take low-dose aspirin along with pink salt and raw garlic. My cancer center at a major, major university hospital sells light bulbs inserted into Himalayan pink salt pillars in their gift shop. I don't think they are covered by Medicare yet though... they’re too "cutting edge"! Maybe BCO should do a study on what sells in hospital gift shops to find out what really cures cancer. :)

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Sep 27, 2018 07:51PM KCMC wrote:

ChiSandy, I was beating myself up because I have been told by various doctors to take a baby aspirin a day for at least the last 15 years and I never listened. After my diagnosis I was thinking if I only listened to my doctors maybe I wouldn't have got breast cancer.

I am beginning to believe its a crap shoot. This stupid beast called cancer is so insidious.

Dx 3/13/2017, DCIS/IDC, Left, 4cm, Stage IIA, Grade 2, 0/2 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2+ (FISH)
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Sep 27, 2018 08:33PM concernedfriend77 wrote:

HI KCMC for your input from what I am reading there is no wrong or right here, the fact it may benefit is a good thing as we know some medicine works better for some people then others, I know this myself with a natural sleep product that knocks me out but has no affect on other people I have recommended it to, no one is suggesting it will stop you getting cancer but I think if may help to some degree it would be a good thing..

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Sep 27, 2018 08:35PM concernedfriend77 wrote:

Thanks for your input everybody is different at least it has little to no side affects I have been on it for 40 yrs ..

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Sep 27, 2018 08:40PM concernedfriend77 wrote:

Well everybody is looking for solutions I just heard of the anti cancer affect many times due to my ears prick up every time the mention of baby aspirin as I have been taking it for 40 yrs, this makes sence to me The inhibition of platelets with aspirin therapy reduces this signaling between platelets and tumor cells, thus indirectly reducing tumor cell growth.. So I will suggest my friend start taking it after she gets the nod from her doctor, it is cheap and if it helps her that's a plus..

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Sep 27, 2018 08:44PM concernedfriend77 wrote:

Thanks for your input, no doctor is prescribing it I just think she should be on it, due to number of stories on the anti cancer benefits cheers..

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Sep 27, 2018 10:08PM - edited Sep 27, 2018 10:10PM by Sara536

Concerenedfriend, thanks for the interesting info about the signaling between platelets and tumor cells, much better than number crunching from “observational" studies. I tend to react to observationat studies that don't provide the “why" with snarkyness (not helpful to anyone, I know)

That said, here's an observational study with a cohort of 1 that does impress me: Prior to being diagnosed, I saw an elderly doctor for a while. (I figured she was at least pushing 80) She was not computer literate. (She slowly and painstakingly printed her notes legibly by hand.) In our intake discussion I said I was taking 1 baby aspirin a day. She said I should be taking 2 per day. When I asked why, she responded, "Do you want to die?" About two years later, I received a letter announcing her retirement at the age of 96! Anecdotal proof- not a real study- but hey...

Now, once in a while I up it to 2. With the info you provided I might go for 2 while I try to find more information about the connection between platelet signaling and tumor cells. Do you have a link?

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Sep 27, 2018 11:36PM concernedfriend77 wrote:

Hi Sara please don't make decisions on my info I am just relaying what I have seen, consult your doctor, what you decide for yourself is of course up to you and all the best to you, easy to see just google aspirin anti cancer here's the link for the info I put here.. www.medicalnewstoday.com/artic...

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Sep 27, 2018 11:50PM ksusan wrote:

I also already took baby aspirin for years before a breast cancer diagnosis.

Mutant uprising quashed. Dx 1/2015, IDC, Right, Stage IIA, 1/1 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Dx 1/2015, DCIS, Left, Stage 0, Grade 3, 0/2 nodes Hormonal Therapy Tamoxifen pills (Nolvadex, Apo-Tamox, Tamofen, Tamone) Surgery Lymph node removal: Sentinel; Mastectomy: Left, Right Radiation Therapy Whole-breast Chemotherapy Cytoxan (cyclophosphamide), Taxotere (docetaxel)
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Sep 28, 2018 01:28AM Sara536 wrote:

concernedfriend, Thanks for the link☀️

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Sep 28, 2018 02:18AM Artista964 wrote:

low dose asa helps with colon cancer prevention only. And it will do more harm than good for some people. One needs to review this with one's pcp.

Dxd at 50. Went thru it all on my own by choice. Dx 6/2/2015, IDC, Left, 6cm+, Stage IIIA, Grade 3, 1/4 nodes, PR+, HER2- Surgery 8/5/2015 Lymph node removal: Left, Sentinel, Underarm/Axillary; Mastectomy: Left, Right; Reconstruction (left): Silicone implant; Reconstruction (right): Silicone implant Chemotherapy 11/2/2015 AC + T (Taxotere) Radiation Therapy 5/3/2016 Whole-breast: Breast, Lymph nodes Hormonal Therapy 6/28/2016 Tamoxifen pills (Nolvadex, Apo-Tamox, Tamofen, Tamone)
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Sep 28, 2018 02:33PM Benji69 wrote:

I took an average of four adult aspirins daily for forty (40!) years. Cut back to two daily the next ten years, one a day until breast cancer dx. Now I take none and worry about having a stroke.

Dx 7/17/2018, DCIS/IDC, Left, 5cm, Stage IIIA, Grade 2, 5/12 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- (IHC) Chemotherapy 8/15/2018 AC + T (Taxol) Surgery 2/19/2019 Lumpectomy: Left; Lymph node removal: Left, Sentinel, Underarm/Axillary Radiation Therapy 4/8/2019 Whole-breast: Breast, Lymph nodes, Chest wall Hormonal Therapy Arimidex (anastrozole)
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Sep 28, 2018 10:45PM ceanna wrote:

I took at least one, sometimes two, baby aspirins for a few years before diagnosis, but since it seems breast cancer can be there for a few years before detection, I wonder if I started taking aspirin after the bc had already begun. I continue to take 2/day. No chemo and no AI's.

Dx 2014, IDC, 0/4 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Radiation Therapy Multi-catheter Surgery Lumpectomy: Right
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Sep 29, 2018 01:27PM windingshores wrote:

My oncologist at a top hospital cancer center encouraged me to take baby aspirin. However, I am afraid of stomach effects like bleeding.

They no longer recommend aspirin for afib, another problem I have developed, or it would have been killing two birds with one pill.

Dx 2/2015, DCIS/ILC/IDC, Right, 1cm, Stage IA, Grade 3, 0/3 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- (FISH) Surgery Lymph node removal; Mastectomy: Right Surgery Mastectomy: Left; Prophylactic mastectomy: Left Hormonal Therapy
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Sep 29, 2018 04:14PM keepthefaith wrote:

My MO said one baby aspirin only. I was taking Tamoxifen at the time, but have continued the aspirin regimen. I think one benefit is the anti-inflammatory properties.

Dx 9/17/2013, IDC, 1cm, Stage IA, Grade 2, 0/3 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Surgery 10/17/2013 Lumpectomy: Right; Lymph node removal: Right, Sentinel Chemotherapy 12/2/2013 Cytoxan (cyclophosphamide), Taxotere (docetaxel) Chemotherapy 12/25/2013 Cytoxan (cyclophosphamide), Taxotere (docetaxel) Chemotherapy 1/15/2014 Cytoxan (cyclophosphamide), Taxotere (docetaxel) Chemotherapy 2/10/2014 Cytoxan (cyclophosphamide), Taxotere (docetaxel) Radiation Therapy 3/31/2014 Breast Hormonal Therapy 5/22/2014
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Sep 29, 2018 04:43PM Meow13 wrote:

Beware, My mother who is in her eighties was taking baby asprin along with other prescriptions. She suffered from diarrhea driving her crazy. Her doctor said stop the asprin and the diarrhea went away. I couldn't believe it just something to consider if you get this side effect.

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Sep 30, 2018 09:32AM - edited Sep 30, 2018 09:33AM by concernedfriend77

Hi not according to this article but to each their own all the best
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/317248.php

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Sep 30, 2018 09:34AM concernedfriend77 wrote:

Cheers nice to hear from all the best with it.

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Sep 30, 2018 09:36AM concernedfriend77 wrote:

Thanks for the info will tell my friend she is yet to go on it..

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Sep 30, 2018 10:48AM claireinaz wrote:

I take a full 325 mg. aspirin every day; so does ClaireinSeattle. It doesn't hurt me, it's cheap, and there have been many studies about inflammation and the cancer link. I say why not? Here's an NCI link that explains the link. Regarding the responses above ("took it for years, didn't keep me from getting cancer", etc.)--we don't know everything about this disease, for sure. If we were guaranteed to keep cancer away by taking an aspirin, we'd all do it. But if it increases my chances to fight any recurrence, it doesn't bother me, then I'm not risking anything by taking it and maybe boosting my chances of not getting it, along with all the other things I'm doing: exercise (see Nurses study, b.c., and exercise), Aromasin, BMI low, organic to avoid pesticides, Vit D supplements, etc.

https://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/causes-prevention/risk/chronic-inflammation

9/29/11 ILC, 2 c. stage II grade 1, ER/PR+ HER2-, 6/11 nodes, lumpectomy, DDAC x 4, Taxol x 12, 33 rads, Tamoxifen/arimidex/aromasin, BMX/immed recon 7/3/13 "In the midst of winter, I found in me an invincible summer.” Albert Camus
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Sep 30, 2018 10:51AM concernedfriend77 wrote:

Yes very true Clair I agree.

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Sep 30, 2018 10:55AM concernedfriend77 wrote:

Everybody is different that's all I can say..people react differently for the same medication I take a natural sleeping pill sometimes, it says take 2 1/2 hour before bed all I need to take is 1/4 of one and I am out other people take 2 and it does nothing for them..

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Nov 19, 2018 12:57PM Lea7777 wrote:

I was told by a doc at a major cancer research center to limit baby aspirin to about 3x per week, but do not take a daily dose. (My age was 58.) She said the less-than-daily regimen reduces the risk of an ulcer that may occur with a daily dose. My local oncologist said aspirin in men is very beneficial but in women it can cause brain hemorrhaging. As a result she suggested one baby aspirin every other day (about 3 per week).

These docs agreed aspirin could help marginally as an Aromatase Inhibitor, which can reduce cancer. They did not feel it was a cancer cure. Obviously.

In Sept some new studies on aspirin and health came out. It said people 70+ had more bleeding problems on a daily dose of full strength aspirin. Risks actually outweighed benefits for bleeding, and even cancer and death for the 65+ Black & Hispanic population and the 70+ Caucasian population.

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2018/09/...




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Dec 2, 2018 08:32PM JosieO wrote:

All,

Not sure if I am duplicating or repeating in any post or link contained within, but I had heard about a government trial focusing on aspirin and breast cancer. Here’s a link that is easy to read. I intend to research this in more depth, but wanted to share it here:

http://abctrial.org/about-abc-trial


I intend to ask one of mycancer team about it, but don’t see my medical oncologist again until spring 2019. Glad to hear what anyone else learns.

Thanks.

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